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Posted: 3/13/2006 11:13:50 AM EDT
better stock up.


Secretary of Health and Human Services Michael Leavitt recommended over the weekend that Americans start storing provisions such as canned tuna and powdered milk as the prospect of a bird flu outbreak approaches the United States. While the poultry industry has already taken precautions and is poised to take decisive action, U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Michael Johanns said, "There's no way you can protect the United States by building a big cage around it and preventing wild birds from flying in and out." For now, U.S. spy satellites are keeping tabs on the infected flocks, which left Asia and are now heading to Siberia and Alaska, where they will soon mingle with flocks from the North American flyways
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Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:15:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 11:15:58 AM EDT by Admiral_Crunch]
Why in hell would I want to store canned tuna? That crap is nasty.

And why is he suggesting those particular things specifically? I didn't think tuna or cows could get bird flu.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:18:00 AM EDT
The Mrs is going tomorrow and buy masks. And more stock up supplies are on the weekly shopping list.

What kind of anitbiotics fight the birdflu?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:18:39 AM EDT
Long term protein. Milk for infants. Avian influenza would cause supply problems.

Better stock up. I am including Spam and the like in my provision stocks plus ammo for hunting.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:20:28 AM EDT
i think i'm going to buy a case or two of MRE's....
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:20:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

What kind of anitbiotics fight the birdflu?

None. Influenza is a virus. No antibiotic affects viral infections. You can try to get your hands on some Tamiflu, but I doubt you'll be successful at it.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:21:02 AM EDT
Do you have a link to where this statement came from?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:22:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Do you have a link to where this statement came from?




dupe
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:23:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 11:23:28 AM EDT by Boom_Stick]

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Do you have a link to where this statement came from?


It's on drudge report.

I've already got masks, filters and NBC suits. I just need to stock up on the food now. Costco here I come!
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:24:41 AM EDT
So this is going to be the latest internet rumor.

LOL
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:25:50 AM EDT
President Bush said nevermind

There , it is in bold print and on the internet . You can relax now.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:28:36 AM EDT
If you're interested, check out the Survival Forum.

Anybody know which stocks to buy to take advantage of this latest pronouncement? Which corporation owns Starkist? Bah, it's probably too late anyhow. I'll just buy some to store next to my plastic sheeting and duct tape....
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:28:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By slaughter:
So this is going to be the latest internet rumor.

LOL



Well, apparantly it ain't a rumor, unless ABC News got fooled by it.

abcnews.go.com/GMA/AvianFlu/story?id=1716820&page=1

Holy hell. How is there NOT going to be panic buying in the stores now?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:29:40 AM EDT
Ban birds.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:31:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jj01:

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Do you have a link to where this statement came from?




dupe



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=123&t=445512
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:31:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:

Originally Posted By slaughter:
So this is going to be the latest internet rumor.

LOL



Well, apparantly it ain't a rumor, unless ABC News got fooled by it.

abcnews.go.com/GMA/AvianFlu/story?id=1716820&page=1

Holy hell. How is there NOT going to be panic buying in the stores now?



Did you miss this part of the article ?

The bird flu virus, to date, is still not easily transmitted to humans
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:33:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By slaughter:

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:

Originally Posted By slaughter:
So this is going to be the latest internet rumor.

LOL



Well, apparantly it ain't a rumor, unless ABC News got fooled by it.

abcnews.go.com/GMA/AvianFlu/story?id=1716820&page=1

Holy hell. How is there NOT going to be panic buying in the stores now?



Did you miss this part of the article ?


"THIS SHIP IS UNSINKABLE!"

The bird flu virus, to date, is still not easily transmitted to humans

Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:33:52 AM EDT
Stock up on Tamiflu and the other newer thing, can't remember its name.

I don't think there is any big problem with supply right now. Better get it now,
next month who knows.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:35:17 AM EDT
Open Season. Everyone get your gauges.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:37:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
i think i'm going to buy a case or two of MRE's....



Why? They're expensive and they taste like crap.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:38:16 AM EDT
Can't we just stay away from the birds?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:40:24 AM EDT
I'll bet you $10 bucks that Michael Leavitt owns stock in Star Kist Tuna.
Follow the money
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:41:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
i think i'm going to buy a case or two of MRE's....



For the $120-150 that you spend on those could get you a whole car load of other food.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:41:55 AM EDT
Were's the best place to get the masks and extra filters at.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:48:42 AM EDT
Hell, between the Mad Cow and the Bird Flu I'm just gonna stick to eating pork. No competition from hungry from Muslims either. Pork Ribs, pork chops, pork loin, pigs feet, man you can eat everything but the squeal mmmmmm, barbecue........
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:51:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 11:52:31 AM EDT by Admiral_Crunch]

Originally Posted By slaughter:

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:

Originally Posted By slaughter:
So this is going to be the latest internet rumor.

LOL



Well, apparantly it ain't a rumor, unless ABC News got fooled by it.

abcnews.go.com/GMA/AvianFlu/story?id=1716820&page=1

Holy hell. How is there NOT going to be panic buying in the stores now?



Did you miss this part of the article ?

The bird flu virus, to date, is still not easily transmitted to humans



No I didn't miss that, but what does that have to do with my post? With government officals saying crap like that, people are going to panic.

If he actually said it, it's not a rumor, now is it?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:52:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:

Originally Posted By slaughter:

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:

Originally Posted By slaughter:
So this is going to be the latest internet rumor.

LOL



Well, apparantly it ain't a rumor, unless ABC News got fooled by it.

abcnews.go.com/GMA/AvianFlu/story?id=1716820&page=1

Holy hell. How is there NOT going to be panic buying in the stores now?



Did you miss this part of the article ?

The bird flu virus, to date, is still not easily transmitted to humans



No I didn't miss that, but what does that have to do with my post? With government officals saying crap like that, people are going to panic.



<Gremlins 2> I'm encouraging my clients to invest in canned food and shotguns. </Gremlins 2>
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:52:39 AM EDT
Sorry Charlie, not interested in Tuna thats got good taste........
......its Tuna that tastes good.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:53:53 AM EDT
And what is up with him telling people to store it under their bed ?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:55:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
The Mrs is going tomorrow and buy masks. And more stock up supplies are on the weekly shopping list.

What kind of anitbiotics fight the birdflu?




What kinda masks?
You can IM if you like
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:56:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By staraero:
Were's the best place to get the masks and extra filters at.





BOSS: Do you have those TPS reports ready yet?
ME: <darth vader breathing> unintelligible mumblings
BOSS: Huh?
ME: <darth vader breathing> Louder unintelligible mumblings
BOSS: Dude I’m giving you the day off. And take a shower for fuck sake!


Link Posted: 3/13/2006 12:01:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By slaughter:
And what is up with him telling people to store it under their bed ?



The kitchen pantry isn't secure enough, and the infected birds will find it there!! Didn't you see the Hitchcock movie!?!?!?!


I have no freakin' clue. It sounds more like something The Onion would report. I checked CNN and Foxnews' sites, and they have articles about him making a speech over the weekend about birdflu, but no mention of tuna and milk. I wonder if someone at ABC is having a bit of not-so-harmless fun?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 12:15:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Why in hell would I want to store canned tuna? That crap is nasty.



Give the "Tuna Fillet in Olive Oil" a try - It's a lot tastier than that packed-in-water crap, and yet still costs only about a buck a can.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 12:15:37 PM EDT
why, are the birds going to shit on the tuna or something?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 12:20:16 PM EDT
<Billy Blaze> "Feed the mayonaise to the tuna" <Billy Blaze>

GM
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 12:26:20 PM EDT
If you get the flu and it results in pneumonia, is that pneumonia usually bacterial or viral? What antibiotic would be best if it is bacterial?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 12:27:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
I didn't think tuna or cows could get bird flu.



[blonde]Hello, Chicken of the sea! [/blonde]
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 12:44:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
The Mrs is going tomorrow and buy masks. And more stock up supplies are on the weekly shopping list.

What kind of anitbiotics fight the birdflu?



It's a flu--a virus. Antibiotics are as useful as water, perhaps less so.

Jim
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 2:03:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
The Mrs is going tomorrow and buy masks. And more stock up supplies are on the weekly shopping list.

What kind of anitbiotics fight the birdflu?


None. Since the H5N1 triggers a "cytokine storm", I've been idly wondering whether a medication that suppresses cytokine production, such as Prednisone, might help. But, then, I don't have even remotely enough knowledge about that stuff to do any real research on it.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 2:04:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
The Mrs is going tomorrow and buy masks. And more stock up supplies are on the weekly shopping list.

What kind of anitbiotics fight the birdflu?



It's a flu--a virus. Antibiotics are as useful as water, perhaps less so.

Jim



They can help with secondary infections.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 2:17:29 PM EDT
There is still Tamiflu out there. Right now I'm looking at 8 boxes of capsules on the shelf and 6 bottles of the liquid. This is all our hospital pharmacy gas in stock, but we ordered some from our wholesaler last week and had no problem getting it.

If the H5N1 develops resistance (and it probably will) the Tamiflu will be useless. The best thing everybody can do is have enough consumables on hand (food, water, toiletries, medicine) to just
STAY THE HELL AT HOME
when or if a flu outbreak occurs. This will break the chain of transmission and shorten the outbreak significantly.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 2:28:21 PM EDT
All I know is the killer bees never took over.
And we survived Y2K.
Anybody remember SARS???
Yeah...........

<shrug>

Link Posted: 3/13/2006 2:49:42 PM EDT
It's Bush's fault!!!
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