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Posted: 3/13/2006 10:02:57 AM EDT
I watched it and I have no idea why anyone would want more than one wife.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:04:34 AM EDT
I have no idea why anyone would want one wife
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:05:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:08:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 10:08:35 AM EDT by Boom_Stick]

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I watched it and I have no idea why anyone would want more than one wife.


Remember, you're watching HBO's portrayal of polygamy. Plus, not every polygamous marriage is filled with the negative issues that family has. HBO has to add strife and drama for it to be a watchable TV show.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:11:58 AM EDT
Basically, really SUCKED- Kind of like "Please Don't Eat The Daisies" with really bad simulated sex-
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:14:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By usjet:
Basically, really SUCKED- Kind of like "Please Don't Eat The Daisies" with really bad simulated sex-



Yeah, but next week he get's Viagra.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:15:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:15:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 10:18:25 AM EDT by Another_Dude]
He had the Viagra this week. Remember the scene where wifey #1 says she needs some sleep and he displays a perfectly pitched tent?

ETA: I watched it w/ the GF and she said something like "You better not want to have multiple wives". My quick comeback was "I'm not sure I even want one". See part above about pitched tent w/ sleeping bedwarmer above...
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:17:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Another_Dude:
He had the Viagra this week. Remember the scene where wifey #1 says she needs some sleep and he displays a perfectly pitched tent?



Yes. But he did not get to use it. The previews for next got some moaning and groaning going on.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 10:27:57 AM EDT
I watched it and I thought it was fairly decent. I'll watch it again next week to see what happens because I think the show has (at least some) potential to be successful and entertaining. The taboo subject of polygamy/polygyny doesn't bother me, either. I've seen worse things on tv so polygamy/polygyny is mild by comparison to other things which HBO has tried to push in some of its past shows.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:08:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 11:11:16 AM EDT by TRW]
I saw it. I miss Utah a lot so I watched just to see some familiar landscape. Hard to tell yet if the show is going to be any good. Still too early and they still have to develop the characters. Looks like they have some sub-plots going already though with the prophet trying to worm his way into Bills business and the middle wife's spending habits and the fact that she is the prophets daughter and likes to use the term boss lady a lot. I see cat fight in the future.

All three wives are very doable by the way.

For all the women and girl friends out there who claim they couldn't do this polygamy stuff.....it just takes getting used to...thats all....

Link Posted: 3/13/2006 11:13:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 11:13:22 AM EDT by Spade]

Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I watched it and I have no idea why anyone would want more than one wife.


Remember, you're watching HBO's portrayal of polygamy. Plus, not every polygamous marriage is filled with the negative issues that family has. HBO has to add strife and drama for it to be a watchable TV show.




You'd think women would naturally add enough strife and drama to make a more than watchable TV show.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:06:19 AM EDT

I saw Big Love and I was impressed the first show because it looks like it will be a good story. But then again, I had an interesting experience with a polygamous community in northern az. Here is a little write up of the day.


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When I was a student at Northern Arizona University and taking an advanced sociology class, the professor suggested I go interview a resident of Colorado City (a.k.a. Short Creek). I think it has just incorporated at Colorado City around 1988-89. Desperate to make a good grade on this project, I loaded up my motorcycle and took off from Flagstaff on Sunday morning. I was on a Sportster chopper and had to stop many times to fill up my tiny tank. Every time I stopped at a gas station, I would ask if I was heading in the right direction for Short Creek. As I got closer, the gas attendants would look at me with my motorcycle, black leather jacket, long hair, and earrings and ask incredulously why I was going there. My answer was always the same, “ I need to talk to someone who lives there”. Not one, but two different attendants told me to be careful if I saw anyone with a gun.

My plan was to go to a local café or diner and strike up a conversation with a local and then head back to Flag. I arrived in what seemed to be dusty little town on the border of AZ and UT. It was a nice ride. The first thing I noticed was all the big houses with blue tarps covered the portions that seemed to be under construction – as if an edition was being added. The second thing I noticed was that the local café was closed and not a single person was walking the streets. And then it dawned on me that it was Sunday and that everyone was in temple. So I scooted around on my bike and saw a temple with the biggest full parking lot in northern Arizona. I decided that I should not go inside. I just drove around looking for a gas station and a cold drink.

On one street I saw an older, gray-haired, stocky woman a tomato field with a few children. Here was my first person. I got off my bike and walked up to the fence – she walked toward me. Thinking my café plan might still work, I asked where I could get a bite to eat. She directed me to the highway and the next town 25 miles away (St. George). I realized my plan was hopeless. I looked at her and disclosed everything. I told her I was college student sent to Short Creek to interview a resident. She asked me why I wanted to interview someone, and in my naiveté I said, “Because you’re different”. She looked at me, then grinned and said, “Yep, we’re different”. She invited me into the tomato field and a 5 hour conversation started.

The story she told me was incredible. Her name was Jane and she was close to 60 years old. She was a mother to 16 children and one of 7 wives to her husband. As it turned out, she was the town rebel. This made sense because she was wearing jeans and not in temple on Sunday. This also explained why she was willing to talk to me about her community. If you saw the news piece on Colorado City, you saw how most residents react to outsiders with questions. She was adamant that her community was making a mistake by excluding outsiders and being secretive. She wanted “her people” to communicate much more with the outside world.

She told me how she believed that God was ok with polygamy. Only the first wife was legal and the others were just religious marriages. Not every man gets many wives – the church leaders had to give permission. Apparently the ability to support them without the help of welfare was not one of the conditions of polygamy. Originally, she was married to another husband who met an untimely demise. Another man took her in as a wife. While the father is father to all his children, the wives mostly marshal their own children or babysit other wives’ children. A wife has “powerful aunt” status to the children of other wives.

One of the worst parts her story was when government agents (she said FBI, but records show it was National Guard and AZ police) raided the town in the 1950s. She was a teenager and with a child. The people of Short Creek knew of the raid. The women and children were kept inside and the men were armed. She said they were prepared to fight, but no fighting occurred. She feared that every man in the town would be shot dead. Her husband was hauled away with all the other men for almost 2 years. Two years of feeling like their country betrayed them, two years of not knowing if her husband would ever be let out, two years of just barely surviving. Eventually, the men were returned and most AZ and UT people thought the raid was a stupid political stunt. Ever since, the states of AZ and UT looked the other way. Jane said it was like they had reservation status (like American Indians).

Another one of her tales was the treatment of her boys. As a self-professed trouble maker, she said the town leaders would take their frustrations with her out on her boys. It’s easy for a boy to be banished from Short Creek, but girls are kept around no matter what. She told me about one of her sons, Nate, was banished from Short Creek because he shot out a street light with a BB gun. He went to live with family outside of Short Creek. She said I reminded her of him - she wasn’t the only one. We returned to her house where she made dinner for her children and invited me to stay. As I was eating there was a knock on the door. Her husband and two other men (one with a lever action rifle) came to tell her that Nate had to leave town. She explained who I was and she was told that I had to leave town anyway. They walked away. I said my goodbyes and thanked her for everything she told me (more than I revealed here).

I left town without incident. It was a cold ride back to Flag. In the end, felt ambivalent about Jane and her town. She didn’t tell me about any forced marriages of children to old men, but she may have been one of them. In my research on polygamy, I learned that most of the world’s population is polygamous in one form or another and that monogamy was not as popular or normal as I had thought. The numbers are even worse if you consider all the men in monogamous cultures who have mistresses or father children with girlfriends or men who support multiple wives and children with a divorce in between marriages. In the end, I decided that Jane was like most women or men. She was kind of stuck with the culture into which she was born. She liked some things about it and didn’t others. She would defend “her people”, but still try to change them for the better.
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Link Posted: 3/20/2006 7:18:13 AM EDT
This show is actually getting interesting.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 10:43:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
This show is actually getting interesting.



Of course it is, kinda like swingin with no guilt and no competition

Chloe (Nicky) is my favorite but I would do them all, and I wouldn't need Viagra like Bill does.

Link Posted: 3/20/2006 10:48:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I watched it and I have no idea why anyone would want more than one wife.



A friend's teenage son was talking about Utah a few years ago. He said the Mormon's having more than one wife sounded real cool. I told him that one wife was more than enough. Five girlfriends might be interesting. Five wives would be hell to the fifth power.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 10:53:46 AM EDT
It's ok, but it's not great.

There are a lot of LDS related jokes that only people with some fair exeperience with Mormons would get, otherwise it would just go over people's heads.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 11:00:50 AM EDT
The only reason the show seems interesting, is because "Roman", the church/clan leader is beginning to act like a mob boss.
After watching that GAY, nothing-but-dream-sequence episode of the Sopranos, it appears that "Big Love" now has MORE organized crime intrigue than the Sopranos.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 11:14:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/20/2006 11:15:37 AM EDT by happycynic]

Another one of her tales was the treatment of her boys. As a self-professed trouble maker, she said the town leaders would take their frustrations with her out on her boys. It’s easy for a boy to be banished from Short Creek, but girls are kept around no matter what.


This is the real dark side of polygamy, they have to get rid of the young men somehow. Its quite common in all polygamous societies in this country. Natural fertility rates produce something like 53% females, which is not enough to sustain the social organization. You have to remember that biblical polygamy took place in a much different time when a lot of young males were still being eaten by wolves or killed by fighting other tribes.

The price for modern day polygamy is a lot of young men who have been wrongfully forced from their families at a young age. If it was up to me I'd wipe out polygamy with force if necessary.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 11:17:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TRW:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
This show is actually getting interesting.



Of course it is, kinda like swingin with no guilt and no competition

Chloe (Nicky) is my favorite but I would do them all, and I wouldn't need Viagra like Bill does.




I like the head wife. Any wife that gives her hubby a BJ before work is great woman.
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