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Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:01:27 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:03:07 PM EDT
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You're  a hundred percent correct. Our entire society has become one of blame the other guy. Very few people accept responsibility for their own actions.



You mean like screwing the pooch and invading the wrong country for "mistaken" reasons???????    

The guy would be alive, if we had "the intelligence right"..........    



Poor little innocent Sadam.
The mans done nothing wrong. Never has.

Right, liberty86???


WRONG!

I have a good idea. Maybe you should volunteer to go over there and make things right.




Unlike some liberals, I don't run around worrying about what some dictator is doing to his own. I don't give a shit if he kills his whole population, any more than I care about problems in France.



Selfishness combined with cowardice............what a concept!
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:05:19 PM EDT
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Beyond the point, neither Bush can fight a war.  Senior couldn't finish the war, Junior can't either.
We lose people everyday on the ground, and Iraqis can't do themselves, we spend money for Iraqis, not for my children.  My gas price has not been lowered.  And my port security are going to the crabs while millions of illegals crossing into US with no border security.  I'm sorry, I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, and I had enough of him.  He's arrogant and has no ear to listen  to anyone but Mr shot me up Dick cheney.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:06:22 PM EDT
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This asshole got what he deserved, next time stay the hell home.




....err.....he's dead numnuts.......he isn't going anywhere now......he's worm food.....
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:11:38 PM EDT
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Beyond the point, neither Bush can fight a war.  Senior couldn't finish the war, Junior can't either.
We lose people everyday on the ground, and Iraqis can't do themselves, we spend money for Iraqis, not for my children.  My gas price has not been lowered.  And my port security are going to the crabs while millions of illegals crossing into US with no border security.  I'm sorry, I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, and I had enough of him.  He's arrogant and has no ear to listen  to anyone but Mr shot me up Dick cheney.




The quick fix crowd has arrived.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:12:09 PM EDT
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It kind of odd that they blame Bush and America.  I don't recall the military flying plane loads of peace loving assholes anywhere lately.  When I flew in,,,,all we had was GI's.  

This asshole got what he deserved, next time stay the hell home.



Taht isn't a bad idea though...... Big plane full of them right over an enemy sam site......
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:24:20 PM EDT
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If you jam a stick into a Hornet's nest, you're going to get stung........Regardless of who you blame, or who you voted for.......call people whatever names you want.......the fact is, Our military is the stick, and the Middle East is the Hornet's nest.........Iraq isn't the end of it, it's only the beginning.....
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:26:08 PM EDT
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Beyond the point, neither Bush can fight a war.  Senior couldn't finish the war, Junior can't either.
We lose people everyday on the ground, and Iraqis can't do themselves, we spend money for Iraqis, not for my children.  My gas price has not been lowered.  And my port security are going to the crabs while millions of illegals crossing into US with no border security.  I'm sorry, I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, and I had enough of him.  He's arrogant and has no ear to listen  to anyone but Mr shot me up Dick cheney.




The quick fix crowd has arrived.


Bush kissed your ass.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:27:38 PM EDT
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Beyond the point, neither Bush can fight a war.  Senior couldn't finish the war, Junior can't either.
We lose people everyday on the ground, and Iraqis can't do themselves, we spend money for Iraqis, not for my children.  My gas price has not been lowered.  And my port security are going to the crabs while millions of illegals crossing into US with no border security.  I'm sorry, I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, and I had enough of him.  He's arrogant and has no ear to listen  to anyone but Mr shot me up Dick cheney.




The quick fix crowd has arrived.


Bush kissed your ass.



And you can join him.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:39:22 PM EDT
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Beyond the point, neither Bush can fight a war.  Senior couldn't finish the war, Junior can't either.
We lose people everyday on the ground, and Iraqis can't do themselves, we spend money for Iraqis, not for my children.  My gas price has not been lowered.  And my port security are going to the crabs while millions of illegals crossing into US with no border security.  I'm sorry, I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, and I had enough of him.  He's arrogant and has no ear to listen  to anyone but Mr shot me up Dick cheney.




The quick fix crowd has arrived.


Bush kissed your ass.



And you can join him.


You like that, umm?  Not a homo or want to be, unlike someone here.    
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:42:20 PM EDT
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You're  a hundred percent correct. Our entire society has become one of blame the other guy. Very few people accept responsibility for their own actions.


You mean like screwing the pooch and invading the wrong country for "mistaken" reasons???????    

The guy would be alive, if we had "the intelligence right"..........    


Duncan,

I don't have time to read the whole thread right now; I'm trying to get out of town.  I'm basically just tagging this thread until I have time tonight, but:

First off, my sig on another msgboard is "Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?" --George Washington, from his farewell address (link)

All that said, regardless of whether this was "the right war, at the right time, [blah, blah, blah]," the reason they were kidnapped is that they were there in the first place.

Don't agree with the war?  Fine -- don't enlist; run for office, lobby, and try to affect change.  Don't want to get kidnapped?  Fine, too -- but don't go over there.

It really is that simple.

If Sean Penn had put his money where his mouth was and actually been a human shield, he couldn't [logically] then fault U.S. involvement for getting cluster bombed (by us) or kidnapped (by them).

Personal responsibility.  I'm just sayin'............



+1. Come on, Liberty, you're nuts. Even if you can't stand the idea of the war, the fact is that guy died because he went into a war zone, and some nasty terrorists murdered him. If they don't agree with the war, and don't want to deal with the terrorists that they probably think that Bush created, then stay the hell out of Iraq.

Blame Bush for the troops' deaths if you want (though I find the idea repugnant), but nobody ordered this guy to go over there, and he's responsible for the consequences.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:43:42 PM EDT
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Beyond the point, neither Bush can fight a war.  Senior couldn't finish the war, Junior can't either.
We lose people everyday on the ground, and Iraqis can't do themselves, we spend money for Iraqis, not for my children.  My gas price has not been lowered.  And my port security are going to the crabs while millions of illegals crossing into US with no border security.  I'm sorry, I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, and I had enough of him.  He's arrogant and has no ear to listen  to anyone but Mr shot me up Dick cheney.




The quick fix crowd has arrived.


Bush kissed your ass.



And you can join him.


You like that, umm?  Not a homo or want to be, unlike someone here.    



Nah, you're just a DU troll, that's all.  Far worse than a homo.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:43:59 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:44:05 PM EDT
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Don't think Bush is to blame for this dude's death. He knew the score and went to Iraq of his own free will.

BUT

We were lied to about the reasons for invading Iraq. The problem I have with Bush is he is looking more and more like a Facist as time goes on.

Liberals are Socialist/Communists and Republicans (not all of them but those who matter) are becoming more and more fascist. THAT is the problem I have with Bush. And yes I voted for him twice, not like there was much choice....
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:45:30 PM EDT
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Police: U.S. hostage shot, tortured

...He and Chicago co-director Carol Rose blamed the U.S. involvement in Iraq, backed by Britain, for the captives' dilemma, and urged both nations to release detained Iraqis.
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Unreal.

I blame the Swift Boat Veterans group, because if they wouldn't have made up all their lies, then John Kerry would be president and we'd of left the Iraqis swinging in the breeze months ago thus saving the lives of so many.

Those jerks!!



If there was an smiley of someone pulling his hair out, I'd of used that.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:46:38 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



That's all you lieberals are good for.......name calling.  You just go right ahead defending your boy Bill.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:47:51 PM EDT
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Don't think Bush is to blame for this dude's death. He knew the score and went to Iraq of his own free will.

BUT

We were lied to about the reasons for invading Iraq. The problem I have with Bush is he is looking more and more like a Facist as time goes on.

Liberals are Socialist/Communists and Republicans (not all of them but those who matter) are becoming more and more fascist. THAT is the problem I have with Bush. And yes I voted for him twice, not like there was much choice....



The "Bush lied" bullshit had been itself proven a lie.  You need to read some of the threads on this very board that prove it.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:49:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:53:39 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



That's all you lieberals are good for.......name calling.  You just go right ahead defending your boy Bill.



Excuse me? Can you read? The only thing Bill did that I approved of was getting a blowjob from a skank.

GWB is an abomination of what true Conservatives wanted for this country. You're just too busy wrapping yourself in what his flag represents to know any better.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:59:07 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



That's all you lieberals are good for.......name calling.  You just go right ahead defending your boy Bill.



Excuse me? Can you read? The only thing Bill did that I approved of was getting a blowjob from a skank.

GWB is an abomination of what true Conservatives wanted for this country. You're just too busy wrapping yourself in what his flag represents to know any better.



Oh, so he doesn't do everything EXACTLY as you want and that makes him an abomination?  I can't believe you are a conservative when you use bullshit liberal tactics and apply a typical liberal monicker to him.  

You are just a DU troll trying to convince someone you are a conservative.

Oh, I can read, you just haven't posted anything close to factual.  Your defense of Clinton is another giveaway.  His inaction for 8 years emboldened them to think they could get away with 9/11.  A Taliban general was even quoted as saying they were surprised by the response due to a lack of same for years prior to 9/11.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:09:23 PM EDT
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You're  a hundred percent correct. Our entire society has become one of blame the other guy. Very few people accept responsibility for their own actions.



You mean like screwing the pooch and invading the wrong country for "mistaken" reasons???????    

The guy would be alive, if we had "the intelligence right"..........    



Poor little innocent Sadam.
The mans done nothing wrong. Never has.

Right, liberty86???


WRONG!

I have a good idea. Maybe you should volunteer to go over there and make things right.




Unlike some liberals, I don't run around worrying about what some dictator is doing to his own. I don't give a shit if he kills his whole population, any more than I care about problems in France.



Selfishness combined with cowardice............what a concept!



As opposed to the globalist view that American blood and treasure can set the world free..........

The very definition of a world socialist.

Congratulations for surrendering to those we fought in my day.... Comrade                      
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:19:33 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



That's all you lieberals are good for.......name calling.  You just go right ahead defending your boy Bill.



Excuse me? Can you read? The only thing Bill did that I approved of was getting a blowjob from a skank.

GWB is an abomination of what true Conservatives wanted for this country. You're just too busy wrapping yourself in what his flag represents to know any better.



Oh, so he doesn't do everything EXACTLY as you want and that makes him an abomination?  I can't believe you are a conservative when you use bullshit liberal tactics and apply a typical liberal monicker to him.  

You are just a DU troll trying to convince someone you are a conservative.

Oh, I can read, you just haven't posted anything close to factual.  Your defense of Clinton is another giveaway.  His inaction for 8 years emboldened them to think they could get away with 9/11.  A Taliban general was even quoted as saying they were surprised by the response due to a lack of same for years prior to 9/11.



Take your DU troll moniker and shove it up your GWB "action" figure, whichever one is closest . Bullshit lib tactics? Nope. I hate them prob more than you despise excercise or good oral hygeine.

Facts are facts, dragon breath, and your boy is going down as the WORST POTUS there has ever been.

Here's hoping to a real conservative SOMEDAY in the Oval Office.

You quoting a Tali general is a pathetic excuse to a rebuttal. You just cant face the fact it happened on his watch. HE IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:20:19 PM EDT
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You're  a hundred percent correct. Our entire society has become one of blame the other guy. Very few people accept responsibility for their own actions.


You mean like screwing the pooch and invading the wrong country for "mistaken" reasons???????    

The guy would be alive, if we had "the intelligence right"..........    


Duncan,

I don't have time to read the whole thread right now; I'm trying to get out of town.  I'm basically just tagging this thread until I have time tonight, but:

First off, my sig on another msgboard is "Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?" --George Washington, from his farewell address (link)

All that said, regardless of whether this was "the right war, at the right time, [blah, blah, blah]," the reason they were kidnapped is that they were there in the first place.

Don't agree with the war?  Fine -- don't enlist; run for office, lobby, and try to affect change.  Don't want to get kidnapped?  Fine, too -- but don't go over there.

It really is that simple.

If Sean Penn had put his money where his mouth was and actually been a human shield, he couldn't [logically] then fault U.S. involvement for getting cluster bombed (by us) or kidnapped (by them).

Personal responsibility.  I'm just sayin'............



+1. Come on, Liberty, you're nuts. Even if you can't stand the idea of the war, the fact is that guy died because he went into a war zone, and some nasty terrorists murdered him. If they don't agree with the war, and don't want to deal with the terrorists that they probably think that Bush created, then stay the hell out of Iraq.

Blame Bush for the troops' deaths if you want (though I find the idea repugnant), but nobody ordered this guy to go over there, and he's responsible for the consequences.



Hyia mace......
I may well be nuts, but.......
I never voiced my opinion on the guy one way or another, I'm just saying what I think those folks mean.
If the US had not screwed the pooch, there never would have been a war zone. No war zone, no dead guy. Seems to me that is their position. I agree with you, he is responsible for his own death. But, it would not have happened, if there was no war zone.      [shrug]

BTW, it's too bad that those who decided to invade did not pay attention to Washington.........

(Edit to put washington in red)
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:26:33 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



Thank you for taking time to drop in from your thought provoking work over at DU to share that nugget of profound wisdom with us.  It was truly worth your effort.



And thank you for taking time out from doing routine maintenance from your gig at the trailer park. I know supervisor status is important, and with that ultimate resposibility comes free rent on the cherriest '76 3 bedroom there is in the lot, so chill bubba and enjoy the good life.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:29:19 PM EDT
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All you guys against the war can just go fuck yourselves. It's on, and it'll be on for a long, long time. If Iran want's to party with us then we should dance with them too.

Too many Mullahs want to destroy the West to just be ignored. When we stop fighting them, they will plan their offensives and begin attacking us. Guaran-fucking-teed.

We won't see the end to fighting in our lifetimes, just lulls in the battle.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:29:23 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



That's all you lieberals are good for.......name calling.  You just go right ahead defending your boy Bill.



Excuse me? Can you read? The only thing Bill did that I approved of was getting a blowjob from a skank.

GWB is an abomination of what true Conservatives wanted for this country. You're just too busy wrapping yourself in what his flag represents to know any better.



Larry is not well known for his reading skills......... Or "critical thinking", either. Prefering labels, to debate. Typical of the "liberals" he says he despises.
GWB is a big govt internationalist socialist. Always has been. The proof is in the policies he is implementing.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:39:59 PM EDT
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All you guys against the war can just go fuck yourselves. It's on, and it'll be on for a long, long time. If Iran want's to party with us then we should dance with them too.

Too many Mullahs want to destroy the West to just be ignored. When we stop fighting them, they will plan their offensives and begin attacking us. Guaran-fucking-teed.

We won't see the end to fighting in our lifetimes, just lulls in the battle.



And is all this intelligence brought to you by the same folks who used "able danger" to prevent 9/11?? Or those who said Iraq was a direct threat and had WMD? Or those who let Bin-Laden go at Tora-Bora?? Or the presidential candidate who said "no nation-building????  Or the guy who said the Iraqis would throw flowers??? Or the guy you were supposed to vote for to appoint CONSERVATIVE Justices????                

Get a grip on reality...........
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:44:49 PM EDT
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L86,

What did we do to China to cause them to attack us? Saddam invaded an ally. He refused to abide by the terms of surrender. That means we can deal with him when ever we wish. Would you rather we had started with Iran? Or Saudi Arabia? Iraq was a brilliant move. It was a secular island in the middle of mulla land. This is a war against criminal clerics. They don't fear death, in fact they welcome it. World war would suit them. How would you have fought them?? Let's hear it?



And we didn't have the intelligence wrong, either! That one continues to piss me off! It's like no one remembers Saddam gassed a Kurd village with WMD's! Or the Iraqi general that was recently interviewed ( tape played on the Sean Hannity show, cuz I heard it) about Saddam flying most of his WMD programs to Syria on civilian airliners with the seats ripped out for space.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:48:16 PM EDT
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L86,

What did we do to China to cause them to attack us? Saddam invaded an ally. He refused to abide by the terms of surrender. That means we can deal with him when ever we wish. Would you rather we had started with Iran? Or Saudi Arabia? Iraq was a brilliant move. It was a secular island in the middle of mulla land. This is a war against criminal clerics. They don't fear death, in fact they welcome it. World war would suit them. How would you have fought them?? Let's hear it?


And we didn't have the intelligence wrong, either! That one continues to piss me off! It's like no one remembers Saddam gassed a Kurd village with WMD's! Or the Iraqi general that was recently interviewed ( tape played on the Sean Hannity show, cuz I heard it) about Saddam flying most of his WMD programs to Syria on civilian airliners with the seats ripped out for space.


Don't tell me we weren't monitoring that.  Regardless of whether the intel will be made public in this lifetime......
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:49:35 PM EDT
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And is all this intelligence brought to you by the same folks who used "able danger" to prevent 9/11?? Or those who said Iraq was a direct threat and had WMD? Or those who let Bin-Laden go at Tora-Bora?? Or the presidential candidate who said "no nation-building????  Or the guy who said the Iraqis would throw flowers??? Or the guy you were supposed to vote for to appoint CONSERVATIVE Justices????                

Get a grip on reality...........



You're the one trying to laugh it off, retard. I'm saying it isn't going to go away. You seem to think we can make it all go away. Oh wait, you were just bashing conservatives. You weren't even paying attention.

You got NO clue.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:50:05 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



That's all you lieberals are good for.......name calling.  You just go right ahead defending your boy Bill.



Excuse me? Can you read? The only thing Bill did that I approved of was getting a blowjob from a skank.

GWB is an abomination of what true Conservatives wanted for this country. You're just too busy wrapping yourself in what his flag represents to know any better.



Oh, so he doesn't do everything EXACTLY as you want and that makes him an abomination?  I can't believe you are a conservative when you use bullshit liberal tactics and apply a typical liberal monicker to him.  

You are just a DU troll trying to convince someone you are a conservative.

Oh, I can read, you just haven't posted anything close to factual.  Your defense of Clinton is another giveaway.  His inaction for 8 years emboldened them to think they could get away with 9/11.  A Taliban general was even quoted as saying they were surprised by the response due to a lack of same for years prior to 9/11.



And that explains why, upon taking office, Bush let the Deaths of American sailors on the Cole, continue to go unanswered..........

It's all "Stratergery", right Larry????                      

Doesn't seeing the elder Bush and Clinton lovin it up do anything for ya Larry??

Or are you REALLY that far gone????............
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:57:44 PM EDT
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And is all this intelligence brought to you by the same folks who used "able danger" to prevent 9/11?? Or those who said Iraq was a direct threat and had WMD? Or those who let Bin-Laden go at Tora-Bora?? Or the presidential candidate who said "no nation-building????  Or the guy who said the Iraqis would throw flowers??? Or the guy you were supposed to vote for to appoint CONSERVATIVE Justices????                

Get a grip on reality...........



You're the one trying to laugh it off, retard. I'm saying it isn't going to go away. You seem to think we can make it all go away. Oh wait, you were just bashing conservatives. You weren't even paying attention.

You got NO clue.



On the contrary. I have over a 3 year track record of being correct. What I said was gonna happen, happened/is happining.....

I have more than a clue, and conservatives like myself have been correct about the Bush internationalist agenda from the days of his daddy.

AND, I ain't  laughing at ALL, bunnyface.                        
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 7:59:32 PM EDT
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And is all this intelligence brought to you by the same folks who used "able danger" to prevent 9/11?? Or those who said Iraq was a direct threat and had WMD? Or those who let Bin-Laden go at Tora-Bora?? Or the presidential candidate who said "no nation-building????  Or the guy who said the Iraqis would throw flowers??? Or the guy you were supposed to vote for to appoint CONSERVATIVE Justices????                

Get a grip on reality...........



You're the one trying to laugh it off, retard. I'm saying it isn't going to go away. You seem to think we can make it all go away. Oh wait, you were just bashing conservatives. You weren't even paying attention.

You got NO clue.



On the contrary. I have over a 3 year track record of being correct. What I said was gonna happen, happened/is happining.....

I have more than a clue, and conservatives like myself have been correct about the Bush internationalist agenda from the days of his daddy.

AND, I ain't  laughing at ALL, bunnyface.                        







Bullshit. You tried to laugh down my post and now you are talking out the other side of your face. No wonder you're always "correct", you work both sides.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:00:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:06:19 PM EDT
[#35]

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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



Thank you for taking time to drop in from your thought provoking work over at DU to share that nugget of profound wisdom with us.  It was truly worth your effort.



And thank you for taking time out from doing routine maintenance from your gig at the trailer park. I know supervisor status is important, and with that ultimate resposibility comes free rent on the cherriest '76 3 bedroom there is in the lot, so chill bubba and enjoy the good life.



And thank you for playing 'getting it wrong again' Mr DU Fucktard!  Next time you get a free minute from your oral porta john pumping job, please stop buy and regurgutate some more shit you have swallowed during your employment adventure.  Anyone who thinks GWB is remotely apporaching the status of James Earl Carter as worst president ever has obviously exceeded his fecal matter intake and storage capacity for this life.  It literally has to 'suck' to be you!






   You can tell the world
   you never was my girl,
   you can burn my clothes
   up when I am gone.
   You can tell your friends
   just what a fool I've been,
   and laugh and joke
   about me on the phone

   You can tell my arms:
   Go back into the farm!
   You can tell my feet
   to hit the floor.
   You can tell my lips
   to tell my fingertips,
   they won't be reaching out
   for you no more.

   But don't tell my heart,
   my achy breaky heart,
   I just don't think he'll understand.
   But if you tell my heart,
   my achy breaky heart,
   he might blow up and kill this man.

   You can tell your Ma,
   I moved to Arkansas,
   you can tell your dog
   to bite my leg.
   Or tell your brother Cliff,
   whose fist can tell my lips,
   he never really liked me anyway.

   Or tell your Aunt Louise,
   tell anything you please,
   myself already knows I'm not O.K.
   Or you can tell my eyes
   to watch out for my mind,
   it might be walkin' out
   on me one day.



Keep on rockin that mullet Billy ray, you look good with it whilst walking to your shift lead job at the Sonic. You need to write up LarryG also for jackin off in the dry goods storage.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:13:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:15:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Bush's only mistake was going before that useless organization(UN) a half dozen times for resolutions that in the end meant nothing and thereby giving Saddam all the time to move his weapons of mass destruction out of country to Syria like they did with their airforce to Iran during the 1st Gulf War.  We are at war with the Islamic Fascists or rather they have been at war with us since the Muslim Brotherhood was founded back in the 50s early 60s. What is going on now is just a continuation of the struggle that started 900 years ago. It looks to me that this is the only President that we've had that is willing to take them on with something other that a 2 million dollar cruise misslie to destroy a $25 dollar tent or a asprin factory. My main complaint is that we haven't gone far enough fast enough the last four years, we as country at war haven't made enough sacrifices in this war, where is the rationing where is the pain to the general populus? Our soldiers serving now are the next great generation.
Wake up they are out to destroy us. Don't even bring up the supposed lack of contact between UBL and Saddam Zaraqawi didn't have much contact with him before the war either.

Alvin
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:21:55 PM EDT
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It is bush's fault if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be there and hated by so many other countries. For sticking our nose in others business.  



Next, you are gonna tell us that 9/11 was Bush's fault, that these maniacs did not hate us before he came into office.  Riiiggghhhttt.




And next, you're gonna say it was Clintons fault. Get over it, IT HAPPENED ON MONKEYBOY'S WATCH.



Thank you for taking time to drop in from your thought provoking work over at DU to share that nugget of profound wisdom with us.  It was truly worth your effort.



And thank you for taking time out from doing routine maintenance from your gig at the trailer park. I know supervisor status is important, and with that ultimate resposibility comes free rent on the cherriest '76 3 bedroom there is in the lot, so chill bubba and enjoy the good life.



And thank you for playing 'getting it wrong again' Mr DU Fucktard!  Next time you get a free minute from your oral porta john pumping job, please stop buy and regurgutate some more shit you have swallowed during your employment adventure.  Anyone who thinks GWB is remotely apporaching the status of James Earl Carter as worst president ever has obviously exceeded his fecal matter intake and storage capacity for this life.  It literally has to 'suck' to be you!






   You can tell the world
   you never was my girl,
   you can burn my clothes
   up when I am gone.
   You can tell your friends
   just what a fool I've been,
   and laugh and joke
   about me on the phone

   You can tell my arms:
   Go back into the farm!
   You can tell my feet
   to hit the floor.
   You can tell my lips
   to tell my fingertips,
   they won't be reaching out
   for you no more.

   But don't tell my heart,
   my achy breaky heart,
   I just don't think he'll understand.
   But if you tell my heart,
   my achy breaky heart,
   he might blow up and kill this man.

   You can tell your Ma,
   I moved to Arkansas,
   you can tell your dog
   to bite my leg.
   Or tell your brother Cliff,
   whose fist can tell my lips,
   he never really liked me anyway.

   Or tell your Aunt Louise,
   tell anything you please,
   myself already knows I'm not O.K.
   Or you can tell my eyes
   to watch out for my mind,
   it might be walkin' out
   on me one day.

www.onlineseats.com/upload/concerts/500_con_billyraycyrus1.jpg

Keep on rockin that mullet Billy ray, you look good with it whilst walking to your shift lead job at the Sonic. You need to write up LarryG also for jackin off in the dry goods storage.



Your performance was so good the producers of Brokeback Mountain called and want you to perform your special oral magic in "Brokeback Mountain 2, the Giant Sucking Sound".

I am sure your barking moonbat heart is trembling in anticipation of your upcoming performance.



Weak. You have no fu whatsoever. I'd love to argue with you but I have to get up early tomorrow and get my toes done. May the life of indefferent retardation treat you well tonight, as I'm sure it has  done well for you in the last 3 or 4 decades
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:25:13 PM EDT
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You're  a hundred percent correct. Our entire society has become one of blame the other guy. Very few people accept responsibility for their own actions.



I agree , and have been saying so for 15 years .......... When I screw up , I don't point a finger , don't whine or slobber something like  "but he can" or  "well they have one" , or WHY CAN"T I ?

If I done it , you'll know it right or wrong. What happened to the human back bone?
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:27:46 PM EDT
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And is all this intelligence brought to you by the same folks who used "able danger" to prevent 9/11?? Or those who said Iraq was a direct threat and had WMD? Or those who let Bin-Laden go at Tora-Bora?? Or the presidential candidate who said "no nation-building????  Or the guy who said the Iraqis would throw flowers??? Or the guy you were supposed to vote for to appoint CONSERVATIVE Justices????                

Get a grip on reality...........



You're the one trying to laugh it off, retard. I'm saying it isn't going to go away. You seem to think we can make it all go away. Oh wait, you were just bashing conservatives. You weren't even paying attention.

You got NO clue.



On the contrary. I have over a 3 year track record of being correct. What I said was gonna happen, happened/is happining.....

I have more than a clue, and conservatives like myself have been correct about the Bush internationalist agenda from the days of his daddy.

AND, I ain't  laughing at ALL, bunnyface.                        







Bullshit. You tried to laugh down my post and now you are talking out the other side of your face. No wonder you're always "correct", you work both sides.



Did you wanna respond to the issues I raised??   (In either post)

Or should I just whip out my pee-pee for ya??                            

Like I said. I Ain't laughing....

Slap leather.                
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:31:19 PM EDT
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If you jam a stick into a Hornet's nest, you're going to get stung........Regardless of who you blame, or who you voted for.......call people whatever names you want.......the fact is, Our military is the stick, and the Middle East is the Hornet's nest.........Iraq isn't the end of it, it's only the beginning.....




GOD help us, it is a righteous battle, I hope that we prevail. If we don't, the world will be thrown back to the 13th century.  

Alvin
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:36:35 PM EDT
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If you jam a stick into a Hornet's nest, you're going to get stung........Regardless of who you blame, or who you voted for.......call people whatever names you want.......the fact is, Our military is the stick, and the Middle East is the Hornet's nest.........Iraq isn't the end of it, it's only the beginning.....




GOD help us, it is a righteous battle, I hope that we prevail. If we don't, the world will be thrown back to the 13th century.  

Alvin



And, that concludes tonights Neo-con lesson, boys and girls.

Brought to you by AIPAC....  

And, they say the president of Iran is nuts............  
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 8:53:21 PM EDT
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If you jam a stick into a Hornet's nest, you're going to get stung........Regardless of who you blame, or who you voted for.......call people whatever names you want.......the fact is, Our military is the stick, and the Middle East is the Hornet's nest.........Iraq isn't the end of it, it's only the beginning.....




GOD help us, it is a righteous battle, I hope that we prevail. If we don't, the world will be thrown back to the 13th century.  

Alvin



And, that concludes tonights Neo-con lesson, boys and girls.

Brought to you by AIPAC....  






And, they say the president of Iran is nuts............  





  Alvin
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 9:09:16 PM EDT
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You're  a hundred percent correct. Our entire society has become one of blame the other guy. Very few people accept responsibility for their own actions.


You mean like screwing the pooch and invading the wrong country for "mistaken" reasons???????    

The guy would be alive, if we had "the intelligence right"..........    


Duncan,

I don't have time to read the whole thread right now; I'm trying to get out of town.  I'm basically just tagging this thread until I have time tonight, but:

First off, my sig on another msgboard is "Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?" --George Washington, from his farewell address (link)

All that said, regardless of whether this was "the right war, at the right time, [blah, blah, blah]," the reason they were kidnapped is that they were there in the first place.

Don't agree with the war?  Fine -- don't enlist; run for office, lobby, and try to affect change.  Don't want to get kidnapped?  Fine, too -- but don't go over there.

It really is that simple.

If Sean Penn had put his money where his mouth was and actually been a human shield, he couldn't [logically] then fault U.S. involvement for getting cluster bombed (by us) or kidnapped (by them).

Personal responsibility.  I'm just sayin'............



+1. Come on, Liberty, you're nuts. Even if you can't stand the idea of the war, the fact is that guy died because he went into a war zone, and some nasty terrorists murdered him. If they don't agree with the war, and don't want to deal with the terrorists that they probably think that Bush created, then stay the hell out of Iraq.

Blame Bush for the troops' deaths if you want (though I find the idea repugnant), but nobody ordered this guy to go over there, and he's responsible for the consequences.



Hyia mace......
I may well be nuts, but.......
I never voiced my opinion on the guy one way or another, I'm just saying what I think those folks mean.
If the US had not screwed the pooch, there never would have been a war zone. No war zone, no dead guy. Seems to me that is their position. I agree with you, he is responsible for his own death. But, it would not have happened, if there was no war zone.      [shrug]

BTW, it's too bad that those who decided to invade did not pay attention to Washington.........

(Edit to put washington in red)

Hey lib86, try and feed that line of horseshit to Daniel Pearls widow.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 9:41:05 PM EDT
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Beyond the point, neither Bush can fight a war.  Senior couldn't finish the war, Junior can't either.
We lose people everyday on the ground, and Iraqis can't do themselves, we spend money for Iraqis, not for my children.  My gas price has not been lowered.  And my port security are going to the crabs while millions of illegals crossing into US with no border security.  I'm sorry, I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, and I had enough of him.  He's arrogant and has no ear to listen  to anyone but Mr shot me up Dick cheney.

Is that what this is all about, government check was late again or what?
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 9:49:56 PM EDT
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It is indeed cold.
But that's how it is.

I'm sick of people who SOOO want to consider Iraq vets victims.
It's offensive.
My wife encountered this constantly while I was gone.
Liberals (you know, the kind who insist they "support the troops") would let my wife know how SORRY they were for her and for my being forced to serve. She always set the straight.
Now we have self-loathing vets like Duncan providing "comfort" in the form of pity to our new vets.


There is nothing more offensive to a warrior than pity.



Yes, there is.......

Stupidity..........

Talk to me in 20 years, after we're gone from that shithole.


You call my wife's reaction to you and your ilk's victim worship stupid?

You sicken with your self-loathing and insistance on being a victim.
You blame everyone but yourself, but deep inside you know that you problems are yours, and yours alone.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 7:46:14 AM EDT
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Political opinions???  What a joke!!!  War is not politics, youngster. It's blood, gore, and treasure. Some wars are worth it, some are not.

What is "evil", was putting American soldiers in that shithole in the first place. What's "evil", is a president who thinks American soldiers blood can replace the saving blood of Christ, by saving the world......

What is "evil", is a phoney war, with wide open borders, inviting the next attack. What is "evil", is the real perps of 9/11 go free. What is "evil", is the lack of accountability, in the US govt.

What is "evil", is the belief that US blood can, (or should), free ANYONE!!!    (Unless, of course, one is a globalist....   )


In all that - you simply continue to excuse, justify, condone and support the premeditated and deliberate kidnapping, torture and murder an innocent civilians and continue to imply that you would the same thing.  That you would look for an unarmed peace-worker, kidnap them, torture them and then shoot them in the back of head...... if and because the Chinese invaded.

Well try this one on for size pal - in another thread you vented a lot of rage for illegal immigration "invaders" as you call them - so what do you say if we kidnapped some Charity-Church-workers here who volunteer their time to try to improve the lives of poor people along the border and we torture and kill them because you disagree with the current border policy? THAT is exactly what you are condoning - terroristic kidnapping, torture and murder of innocent civilians to make a political statement.

So go ahead - put your money where your warped beliefs are - go kidnap an unarmed Church-volunteer who helps illegal immigrants, take them out in the desert, torture them and then shoot them in the back of the head. Then you can wash your hands of responsibility and blame their murder on GWBush - you'll be an American hero.

Have a nice life.

Typical neo-con answer to truth...            

Lame ad hominem.


So............... when are you gonna start kidnapping, torturing and killing charity-workers and blaming it on Bush's border policy?







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Classic demonization. Didja learn that from Carl Rove??

Or Joseph Goebbels!!!!      

Classic distraction and more ad hominems.

You keep blaming GWBush for the deliberate kidnapping, torture and murder of an innocent man by terrorists who've been doing that since even before we toppled Saddam. Millions of people are buried in mass graves around Iraq - I guess that's OUR fault too!?

Didja learn that from your buddy Hanoi-John Kerry?

Or Al Zarqarwi?  


Bottomline:
An innocent man was kidnapped, tortured and murdered - and you blame NOT the kidnappers or murderers but a rather politician instead and so you parrot the lies and defend the actions of murderers.

You and your "It's All Bush's Fault" crowd perpetuate the DNC and Al Qaeda Talking Points to at "T". Your political opinions of the war have clouded your judgement to the point where you view everything through a foggy moral relativism where the murderer is the victim and the criminal is the hero. Pathetic.







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