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Posted: 3/8/2006 5:08:04 PM EDT
title says it all
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:09:08 PM EDT
Why not?

She can foot the bill for it too.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:09:19 PM EDT
if she has a job, let her buy her own.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:09:52 PM EDT
don't GIVE it to her, but i dont see anything wrong with her buying one
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:10:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 5:10:36 PM EDT by david_g17]
yes, but take away her driver's license.

in before the "sure, and what's her number" response.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:10:29 PM EDT
Dude, my 9 year old daughter is bothering me for a cell phone....

Once my kid is old enough to date and go out at night I'll want her to have a cell phone. Thus, if you allow your 17 year old to date and go out with her friends, I personally would get her a cell phone. Maybe one of those prepaid jobs though......
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:10:37 PM EDT
she is really loving these responses.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:12:08 PM EDT
stretch415 might have one he'd sell cheap.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:12:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 5:12:41 PM EDT by dolanp]
Yeah maybe prepaid if you're worried about it. Then it will just stop working when they've used up the minutes (except 911).
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:12:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 5:16:19 PM EDT by thompsondd]
I would say it depends on her maturity level. If you do decide, I would strongly suggest that you put her on a prepaid plan and pay whatever you think is sufficent at the beginning of the month. If she uses it all in the first 2 days, tell her tough and that she will have to wait a month before it works again.

Speaking from expeirence, I let myself get roped into this one late last year for my 14 year old who started High School. She spent over 12000 minutes on the phone in 1 month, yet couldn't clean her room.

12000 minutes. That's 200 hours. Thats 5 WORK WEEKS in a single month. Stayed up ALL NIGHT talking on it several times.

Needless to say, she doesn't have the phone anymore. My wife does. But we are on the hook for the cell plan for another 1 1/2 years.

I gave her an opportunity, no, several opportunites to prove she could handle the responsiblity and appreciate the effort we were making for her. She failed MISERABLY every time. At least she was consistent.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:13:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
I would say it depends on her maturity level. If you do decide, I would strongly suggest that you put her on a prepaid plan and pay whatever you think is sufficent at the beginning of the month. If she uses it all in the first 2 days, tell her tough and that she will have to wait a month before it works again.

Speaking from expeirence, I let myself get roped into this one late last year for my 14 year old who started High School. She spent over 12000 minutes on the phone in 1 month, yet couldn't clean her room.

12000 minutes. That's 200 hours. Thats 5 WORK WEEKS in a single month.

Needless to say, she doesn't have the phone anymore. My wife does. But we are on the hook for the cell plan for another 1 1/2 years.



120000 minutes?!?! Dear Christ man!! My wife usually hits around 1500, maybe 2000 and I think THATS alot....
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:15:48 PM EDT
Get the kind that has the end user GPS tracking device so that you can confirm her location...you know for her own safety in case something happend. If she's reading the responses then I bet she will really love that idea!
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:16:56 PM EDT
Tracfone, 20 bucks at wallyworld, pay as you go with prepaid minutes.

Works just about everywhere in the lower 48.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:17:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 5:25:38 PM EDT by thompsondd]

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
I would say it depends on her maturity level. If you do decide, I would strongly suggest that you put her on a prepaid plan and pay whatever you think is sufficent at the beginning of the month. If she uses it all in the first 2 days, tell her tough and that she will have to wait a month before it works again.

Speaking from expeirence, I let myself get roped into this one late last year for my 14 year old who started High School. She spent over 12000 minutes on the phone in 1 month, yet couldn't clean her room.

12000 minutes. That's 200 hours. Thats 5 WORK WEEKS in a single month.

Needless to say, she doesn't have the phone anymore. My wife does. But we are on the hook for the cell plan for another 1 1/2 years.



120000 minutes?!?! Dear Christ man!! My wife usually hits around 1500, maybe 2000 and I think THATS alot....



Yeap, 12K. Actually, it was closer to 13K. Hey, at least that was the high water mark. She normally only managed a mere 6000 minutes per month.

In case you want a glimpse into your future, this is from the actual bill. She was supposed to be OFF the phone at 10pm.

132 Tue 4-Oct 10:10PM GAINES GA 11
133 Tue 4-Oct 10:27PM INCOMI CL 92
134 Tue 4-Oct 10:30PM INCOMI CL 1
135 Tue 4-Oct 11:59PM ATLANT GA 240
136 Wed 5-Oct 07:15AM ATLANT GA 30
137 Wed 5-Oct 07:45AM ATLANT GA 5
138 Wed 5-Oct 07:58AM ATLANT GA 1
139 Wed 5-Oct 08:02AM ATLANT GA 1
140 Wed 5-Oct 10:31AM ATLANT GA 1
141 Wed 5-Oct 11:19AM ATLANT GA 1
142 Wed 5-Oct 11:21AM ATLANT GA 2
143 Wed 5-Oct 01:15PM ATLANT GA 1
144 Wed 5-Oct 01:17PM ATLANT GA 1
145 Wed 5-Oct 03:28PM ATLANT GA 1
146 Wed 5-Oct 03:55PM ATLANT GA 2
147 Wed 5-Oct 04:02PM INCOMI CL 15
148 Wed 5-Oct 04:16PM ATLANT GA 86

Totals 12913

That's 12913 minutes in a single month. She made almost 1200 calls. That averages out to about 10 minutes per call. As you can see from above, there were boatloads of 1 min calls, so there were quite a few LENGHTY ones to raise her average.



Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:18:41 PM EDT
I am j/k with her. She just got her drivers liscense. She had a permit for 2 years because of grades. I will get her a prepayed phone being she will be on the road more.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:19:00 PM EDT


Well the good thing about the cell phone is you can get one with a tracking service on it.

As RR said, "trust, but verify".

Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:19:09 PM EDT
Prepaid, month by month plan, make her pay, make sure she can be responsible with it.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:19:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:23:51 PM EDT
hello, this is the daughter...i feel i need 1 b/c i now have a liscense and i have to have a way to call my mom and dad to let them know where i am and, in case i have an accident, be able to call someone.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:25:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
I would say it depends on her maturity level. If you do decide, I would strongly suggest that you put her on a prepaid plan and pay whatever you think is sufficent at the beginning of the month. If she uses it all in the first 2 days, tell her tough and that she will have to wait a month before it works again.

Speaking from expeirence, I let myself get roped into this one late last year for my 14 year old who started High School. She spent over 12000 minutes on the phone in 1 month, yet couldn't clean her room.

12000 minutes. That's 200 hours. Thats 5 WORK WEEKS in a single month. Stayed up ALL NIGHT talking on it several times.

Needless to say, she doesn't have the phone anymore. My wife does. But we are on the hook for the cell plan for another 1 1/2 years.

I gave her an opportunity, no, several opportunites to prove she could handle the responsiblity and appreciate the effort we were making for her. She failed MISERABLY every time. At least she was consistent.



They should only charge 200-300 to opt out of the contract.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:25:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:26:55 PM EDT
I vote for either a prepaid, or have her pay the bill. Have a nice serious conversation about responsibility with it. If she uses too many minutes, she will pay for it.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:28:28 PM EDT
Pre-paid.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:29:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
hello, this is the daughter...i feel i need 1 b/c i now have a liscense and i have to have a way to call my mom and dad to let them know where i am and, in case i have an accident, be able to call someone.



Well if these are the reasons, then a prepaid with a just low minutes or one of those phones that only call four numbers would be fine.

Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:29:45 PM EDT
now, honestly... i have no reason to fib. that TRULY is all i want it for because i dont really like phones anyway. (unless my b/f calls) and i never wanted a cell until now that i got my liscense.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:30:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
hello, this is the daughter...i feel i need 1 b/c i now have a liscense and i have to have a way to call my mom and dad to let them know where i am and, in case i have an accident, be able to call someone.





First, let me say that I admire your courage to present this in a rational and mature way. That goes a LONG way.

Just for the record, I can see SOME sense in kids your age having a phone, but only for a limited number of circumstances.

A couple of questions:

Would you be offended if your dad got you one of those phones that only dials 4 to 5 preset numbers that THEY chose?

Do you do anything to earn it and if not, would you be opposed to doing so?

Best of luck.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:30:47 PM EDT
12000 minutes!

That 27% of the month.

She spent 1/4 of the month talking. WTF?!?! To whom?! About what?! just talk in person!!


Oh.. teen girl. n/m


Originally Posted By thompsondd:
Yeap, 12K. Actually, it was closer to 13K. Hey, at least that was the high water mark. She normally only managed a mere 6000 minutes per month.

In case you want a glimpse into your future, this is from the actual bill. She was supposed to be OFF the phone at 10pm.

132 Tue 4-Oct 10:10PM GAINES GA 11
133 Tue 4-Oct 10:27PM INCOMI CL 92
134 Tue 4-Oct 10:30PM INCOMI CL 1
135 Tue 4-Oct 11:59PM ATLANT GA 240
136 Wed 5-Oct 07:15AM ATLANT GA 30
137 Wed 5-Oct 07:45AM ATLANT GA 5
138 Wed 5-Oct 07:58AM ATLANT GA 1
139 Wed 5-Oct 08:02AM ATLANT GA 1
140 Wed 5-Oct 10:31AM ATLANT GA 1
141 Wed 5-Oct 11:19AM ATLANT GA 1
142 Wed 5-Oct 11:21AM ATLANT GA 2
143 Wed 5-Oct 01:15PM ATLANT GA 1
144 Wed 5-Oct 01:17PM ATLANT GA 1
145 Wed 5-Oct 03:28PM ATLANT GA 1
146 Wed 5-Oct 03:55PM ATLANT GA 2
147 Wed 5-Oct 04:02PM INCOMI CL 15
148 Wed 5-Oct 04:16PM ATLANT GA 86

Totals 12913

That's 12913 minutes in a single month. She made almost 1200 calls. That averages out to about 10 minutes per call. As you can see from above, there were boatloads of 1 min calls, so there were quite a few LENGHTY ones to raise her average.




Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:31:03 PM EDT
I wonder what everybody did before thay had cellphones, this thing is way out of hand if you ask me. Kids that are not old enough to have a job do not need a damn phone.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:31:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:31:14 PM EDT
Get a 2 Phone Family plan and give your daughter one.

If you want she can pay her Share - you still have control of the account.


For the naysayers - Ever try to find a PayPhone Lately?
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:31:26 PM EDT
I got a pre pay phone with 120 minutes for $35. A month later i still have 60 minutes. Id go that route.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:31:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 5:33:06 PM EDT by thompsondd]

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
now, honestly... i have no reason to fib. that TRULY is all i want it for because i dont really like phones anyway. (unless my b/f calls) and i never wanted a cell until now that i got my liscense.




Originally Posted By five2one:


Well if these are the reasons, then a prepaid with a just low minutes or one of those phones that only call four numbers would be fine.




That was easy. Next.

Good job five2one!!!
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:32:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
hello, this is the daughter...i feel i need 1 b/c i now have a liscense and i have to have a way to call my mom and dad to let LIE to them know where i amshould be and, in case i have an accident Like, "I am trying to find this boys house" , be able to call someone.



There fixed it for ya
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:34:16 PM EDT
I didn't like the way my nieces and nephews use the phones, so I wasn't sure how I would do it with my daughter. Now I found the answer, and it is really mean, but works.
You give your kid a cell so they can call you, and if there is an emergency, not to talk with their friends for all hours.
Here is the answer.
http://www.fireflymobile.com/phone/
really cruel. Only you can program the numbers in the phone, so you can restrict who it calls. It has emergency number capablity, and perhapes their friends can call them, but you have control over who they can answer from, lol.
Guess it depends on how chatty she is, and if you care to have a 100 dollar a month phone bill for them.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:34:38 PM EDT
My daughter is 10 and has a cellphone.


We got it for her mostly for safety concerns relating to after school activities such as softball practice, emergencies, etc.


Balming
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:34:48 PM EDT
well...i have a friend over who just bought herself a new phone and would like to sell me her old phone for $20 (which she paid 30 for.) it has prepaid minuts and the only real problem is that we would have to change the number so her ex-b/f will not be able to call it anymore. as to your other question...i do not have a way to pay for my own minuts but i WOULD be very willing to get a job to do so...if i had a car to get to it with.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:35:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:

She spent 1/4 of the month talking. WTF?!?! To whom?! About what?! just talk in person!!



They have to have a reason to talk?????



Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:
Oh.. teen girl. n/m



EXACTLY.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:35:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
hello, this is the daughter...i feel i need 1 b/c i now have a liscense and i have to have a way to call my mom and dad to let them know where i am and, in case i have an accident, be able to call someone.



Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:36:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
well...i have a friend over who just bought herself a new phone and would like to sell me her old phone for $20 (which she paid 30 for.) it has prepaid minuts and the only real problem is that we would have to change the number so her ex-b/f will not be able to call it anymore. as to your other question...i do not have a way to pay for my own minuts but i WOULD be very willing to get a job to do so...if i had a car to get to it with.



How about extra help around the house to give your mom and dad a break?
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:36:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
well...i have a friend over who just bought herself a new phone and would like to sell me her old phone for $20 (which she paid 30 for.) it has prepaid minuts and the only real problem is that we would have to change the number so her ex-b/f will not be able to call it anymore. as to your other question...i do not have a way to pay for my own minuts but i WOULD be very willing to get a job to do so...if i had a car to get to it with.




Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:37:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
hello, this is the daughter...i feel i need 1 b/c i now have a liscense and i have to have a way to call my mom and dad to let them know where i am and, in case i have an accident, be able to call someone.






Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:41:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
well...i have a friend over who just bought herself a new phone and would like to sell me her old phone for $20 (which she paid 30 for.) it has prepaid minuts and the only real problem is that we would have to change the number so her ex-b/f will not be able to call it anymore. as to your other question...i do not have a way to pay for my own minuts but i WOULD be very willing to get a job to do so...if i had a car to get to it with.



How about extra help around the house to give your mom and dad a break?



well i help as often as posible (although i dont like to clean my room or feed the animals) i do fold clothes a lot and sweep the kitchen and wash the vehicles and keep the rest of the house fairly clean.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:42:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
well...i have a friend over who just bought herself a new phone and would like to sell me her old phone for $20 (which she paid 30 for.) it has prepaid minuts and the only real problem is that we would have to change the number so her ex-b/f will not be able to call it anymore. as to your other question...i do not have a way to pay for my own minuts but i WOULD be very willing to get a job to do so...if i had a car to get to it with.



How about extra help around the house to give your mom and dad a break?



well i help as often as posible (although i dont like to clean my room or feed the animals) i do fold clothes a lot and sweep the kitchen and wash the vehicles and keep the rest of the house fairly clean.



Here comes teh ARFCOM beating
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:45:09 PM EDT
It puts the lotion on its skin.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:45:54 PM EDT
Daughter: "Daddy! I'm at this party and everybody's really drunk and it's getting really wierd. I'm scared! Can you come get me? Please?"

I would have to say yes.


-K
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:47:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
well...i have a friend over who just bought herself a new phone and would like to sell me her old phone for $20 (which she paid 30 for.) it has prepaid minuts and the only real problem is that we would have to change the number so her ex-b/f will not be able to call it anymore. as to your other question...i do not have a way to pay for my own minuts but i WOULD be very willing to get a job to do so...if i had a car to get to it with.



How about extra help around the house to give your mom and dad a break?



well i help as often as posible (although i dont like to clean my room or feed the animals) i do fold clothes a lot and sweep the kitchen and wash the vehicles and keep the rest of the house fairly clean.



That sounds like a decent start and should partly cover feeding, clothing and sheltering you. But what about extra for the phone?
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:47:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Special-K:
Daughter: "Daddy! I'm at this party and everybody's I'm really drunk and it's getting really wierd. I'm scared! Can you come get me? I crashed the car when I tried to get home Please?"

I would have to say yes.


-K



reality checked
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:50:55 PM EDT
Give one to her with limited minutes. In today's world her having a cell phone could truly mean her life or death in some situations.

Anything over her minutes make her pay for.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:50:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
well...i have a friend over who just bought herself a new phone and would like to sell me her old phone for $20 (which she paid 30 for.) it has prepaid minuts and the only real problem is that we would have to change the number so her ex-b/f will not be able to call it anymore. as to your other question...i do not have a way to pay for my own minuts but i WOULD be very willing to get a job to do so...if i had a car to get to it with.



How about extra help around the house to give your mom and dad a break?



well i help as often as posible (although i dont like to clean my room or feed the animals) i do fold clothes a lot and sweep the kitchen and wash the vehicles and keep the rest of the house fairly clean.



That sounds like a decent start and should partly cover feeding, clothing and sheltering you. But what about extra for the phone?



oh come on now...they feed me cause they love me and if they didnt i would die...they clothe me cause if they didnt i would get arrested for indecent exposure. a phone is what working pays of for.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:54:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVIDLF:
oh come on now...they feed me cause they love me and if they didnt i would die...they clothe me cause if they didnt i would get arrested for indecent exposure. a phone is what working pays of for.



then this thread should be "should i let my daughter GET A JOB to pay for a cell phone?

when i turned 16 i was given a choice: get a job to pay for a car, or don't have a car.

the cell phone was a BONUS that i bought with the left over money from having a job.

you're at an age where you should start to think about not taking food and clothing for granted. GET A JOB, and THEN start negotiations.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 5:54:13 PM EDT
I have two daughters one 14 and one 16. They have both had cel phones for about 2 years.

In that two years they have committed one minor transgression which cost about $80. I view the phones as a comfort item for myself and my wife and a conveniece item for the girls. We both work and the girls are active in sports , church,band and miscellaneous social activities. I get great comfort from knowing I can contact them at virtually any time and verify their condition/location and they in turn can contact me should the need arise.

If you are willing to trust your daughter with an automobile and all the attendant risks that go with that , why can't you trust her with a phone? Now is the time for her to be learning responsibilities and probably the ramifications of not being responsible.How long would you want your 17 year old to be sitting on the side of the road needing help? Not very damn long I'm guessing.

At what cost? A $100 phone bill or an accident in an automobile? If my daughter couldn't be trusted with one(phone) she sure wouldn't be trusted with the other(car).

I have however specificly instructed her NOT to operate the phone and auto simultaneously and should I find that she has done so will immediately lose use of the auto.

People call them electronic leashes and I suppose this is an accurate assesment but I for one wouldn't want to raise two teenage girls without them.I say get her/you a phone , set reasonable limits on it's use and let technology be your friend .
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