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Posted: 3/4/2006 8:08:25 PM EDT
I am preparing for joining the Army and getting through Basic. I've been studying and learning a lot. I put together this list of all the Army ranks and insignias and I've been memorizing it. Are these all correct? They should be in order.


PRIVATE (PVT/PV2)


PRIVATE FIRST CLASS (PFC)


SPECIALIST (SPC)


CORPORAL (CPL)


SERGEANT (SGT)


STAFF SERGEANT (SSG)


SERGEANT FIRST CLASS (SFC)


MASTER SERGEANT (MSG)


FIRST SERGEANT (1SG)


SERGEANT MAJOR (SGM)


COMMAND SERGEANT MAJOR (CSM)


SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ARMY


WARRANT OFFICER 1 (WO1)


CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER 2 (CW2)


CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER 3 (CW3)


CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER 4 (CW4)


CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER 5 (CW5)


SECOND LIEUTENANT (2LT)


FIRST LIEUTENANT (1LT)


CAPTAIN (CPT)


MAJOR (MAJ)


LIEUTENANT COLONEL (LTC)


COLONEL (COL)


BRIGADIER GENERAL (BG)


MAJOR GENERAL (MG)


LIEUTENANT GENERAL (LTG)


GENERAL (GEN)


GENERAL OF THE ARMY (GOA)
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:11:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 8:12:01 PM EDT by HIPPO]
Still trying to get used to the CWO5 rank insignia...weird...

Yes, you are correct on the rank structure
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:11:05 PM EDT
You got them from the Army web site, why wouldn't they be correct? BTW: there is no "9 to 5" in the military.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:12:00 PM EDT
Technically PVT/E-1 has no rank insignia PVT/E-2 is the single chevron.

Who snuck in the CW-5??
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:12:33 PM EDT
Private or E1 has no ensignia

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:13:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:15:03 PM EDT
Well maybe they left something out, or this list doesn't exactly fit with the way things really operate. The recruiter lies, so who knows? Just trying to get "reality" feedback.

I already memorized the alphabet words (alpha, beta, charlie, delta, echo...). Already memorized the force structure (squad, platoon, company, battalion...).

Tell me what you think. I'm an old man (29) to be going into basic and so my plan is to prepare and outsmart in whatever way possible.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:16:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 50cal:
When did CW-5 happen?



A while ago - like 10+ years ago...
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:17:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:18:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:
Well maybe they left something out, or this list doesn't exactly fit with the way things really operate. The recruiter lies, so who knows? Just trying to get "reality" feedback.

I already memorized the alphabet words (alpha, beta, charlie, delta, echo...). Already memorized the force structure (squad, platoon, company, battalion...).

Tell me what you think. I'm an old man (29) to be going into basic and so my plan is to prepare and outsmart in whatever way possible.



Smart is one thing, tough is another. In ARFKOM tradition, get both!
PT - good for you, good for me...
Good luck!

BTW, what MOS?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:19:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:
Well maybe they left something out, or this list doesn't exactly fit with the way things really operate. The recruiter lies, so who knows? Just trying to get "reality" feedback.

I already memorized the alphabet words (alpha, betaBRAVO, charlie, delta, echo...). Already memorized the force structure (squad, platoon, company, battalion...).

Tell me what you think. I'm an old man (29) to be going into basic and so my plan is to prepare and outsmart in whatever way possible.



Last I knew it was bravo, not beta.

Good luck at Basic. You can't go wrong learning the rank insignia. We used to get tested on it when we were in the chow line. If you missed one you went to the end of the line, and if you were at the end of the line you may not have time enough to eat.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:22:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dalesimpson:
Last I knew it was bravo, not beta.



Yea I knew that. Alpha bravo charlie delta echo foxtrot gulf hotel indigo juliet kilo lima mike november oscar papa quebec romeo sierra tango uniform victor whiskey x-ray yankee zulu
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:24:42 PM EDT
Here's a better source that has all the US Military’s rank insignia.

www.defenselink.mil/specials/insignias/
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:36:32 PM EDT
Thanks for that link.

What's the difference between a noncommissioned officer and a petty officer?

Where do I get information on what exactly to do in the presence of specific ranks?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:41:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Still trying to get used to the CWO5 rank insignia...weird...

Yes, you are correct on the rank structure



me too. I seen it and was very confused
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:45:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:
Thanks for that link.

What's the difference between a noncommissioned officer and a petty officer?
Petty Officers are NCOs; it's just the term the Navy and CC uses to address them like the other branches call NCOs Sergeant.

Where do I get information on what exactly to do in the presence of specific ranks?
This s something that varies between branches and you will learn it at basic.

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:49:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:
Well maybe they left something out, or this list doesn't exactly fit with the way things really operate. The recruiter lies, so who knows? Just trying to get "reality" feedback.

I already memorized the alphabet words (alpha, beta, charlie, delta, echo...). Already memorized the force structure (squad, platoon, company, battalion...).

Tell me what you think. I'm an old man (29) to be going into basic and so my plan is to prepare and outsmart in whatever way possible.



I have not been in the military, but if you're going in at age 29, then you should have a big jump on the youngsters with regards to maturity, common sense, and "smarts". Although, you could be slightly behind the youngsters in the PT category. I tried to get into to the Army Reserve at age 30 (but was PDQ'd for a lame med reason) and I was told by multiple people that ou are best to be in the middle fo the pack and go un-noticed as possible. Never finish first, and never finish last in PT or other such trivial stuff. Dont be surprised if your tagged for a squad leader due to your maturity. Use your maturity to your advantage as much as possible.

Good luck and have fun! I am jealous!!!
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:11:44 PM EDT
No rank above Spec 4? ( in the specialist ranks)
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:15:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 50cal:
When did CW-5 happen?



+1, I remember they made all CW4's into 2nd Lts when I was in. Man what a kick in the nuts to the Chiefs. Yeah more pay and technically a raise , but man o man, they were not real happy.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:18:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FedGunner:
No rank above Spec 4? ( in the specialist ranks)



not since they sacked Rome.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:20:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dalesimpson:

Originally Posted By ump45:
Well maybe they left something out, or this list doesn't exactly fit with the way things really operate. The recruiter lies, so who knows? Just trying to get "reality" feedback.

I already memorized the alphabet words (alpha, betaBRAVO, charlie, delta, echo...). Already memorized the force structure (squad, platoon, company, battalion...).

Tell me what you think. I'm an old man (29) to be going into basic and so my plan is to prepare and outsmart in whatever way possible.



Last I knew it was bravo, not beta.

Good luck at Basic. You can't go wrong learning the rank insignia. We used to get tested on it when we were in the chow line. If you missed one you went to the end of the line, and if you were at the end of the line you may not have time enough to eat.



It depends on BT location and company.

In my company, we had 10mins from the very last person in line for our platoon. So if you were in the front half of the platoon, you could have up to 20mins to eat. If you were 5th to last, you had about 11mins.



And also, depending on your company, you will get some shit for being older. It'll be good shit though, from the Drill Sgt.'s. We had a guy who was I think 32 in my platoon, he drug ass on the road marches and PT. We helped him out, of course, with motivation and whatnot and he made it out just fine.
The guys who finished 1st were never given shit and were only praised. "Hey, why cant you all be like Stolee? He finished first......blah."


YMWV, of course. This was Infantry OSUT.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:23:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
BTW, what MOS?



These look interesting to me: 42F, 25B, 25D, 25F, 25L. Not too sure yet though.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:28:05 PM EDT
Speaking of the chow line, be prepared to eat your whole meal in less than 5 minutes.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:28:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
BTW, what MOS?



These look interesting to me: 42F, 25B, 25D, 25F, 25L. Not too sure yet though.

Most of us don't know the numerical designations of each MOS
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:36:33 PM EDT
42F--Information Systems Technican
25B--lnformation Systems Operator-Analyst
25D--Telecommunications Operator-Maintainer
25F--Network Switching Systems Operator- Maintainer
25L--Cable Systems lnstaller--Maintainer
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:57:56 PM EDT
understand that not all of those jobs are in high demand at all times. so it might be tough.

when it comes to basic. they won't care if you are mature. they will simply drag you along when you fail at certain events.

don't worry though because basic is a breeze. memorize your chain of command. they will ask that at some point and you might get lucky and eat chow up front. pick up a squad leader job and its to the front of chow lines too.

its seems like at the unit the older guys end up being more sheltered and not hanging out with the young guys. that hurts the team idea. but you will be married so it will be different for you anyway.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:59:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
You forgot First Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant First Class.



Where do those fit in and what do their insignias look like?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:26:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:
42F--Information Systems Technican
25B--lnformation Systems Operator-Analyst
25D--Telecommunications Operator-Maintainer
25F--Network Switching Systems Operator- Maintainer
25L--Cable Systems lnstaller--Maintainer



In other words you want to be a REMF poque.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:30:57 PM EDT
Rember,
Silver outranks gold!
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:31:11 PM EDT
What's that?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:41:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:
What's that?



number 10
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:42:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 10:45:27 PM EDT by Barrelburner]

Originally Posted By ump45:

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
You forgot First Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant First Class.



Where do those fit in and what do their insignias look like?

He's messin with ya
REMF is rear echelon mother fucker. pogue is much the same.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:55:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DVCAPI:

Originally Posted By ump45:
42F--Information Systems Technican
25B--lnformation Systems Operator-Analyst
25D--Telecommunications Operator-Maintainer
25F--Network Switching Systems Operator- Maintainer
25L--Cable Systems lnstaller--Maintainer



In other words you want to be a REMF poque.



My thoughts exactly.

My suggestion? Join the real Army. That means pick a number below 20 for an MOS, and choose one closed to women.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:57:14 PM EDT
Numbers below 20:

Field 11 -- Infantry
Field 13 -- Field Artillery
Field 14 -- Air Defense
Field 15 -- Aviation
Field 18 -- Special Forces
Field 19 -- Armor

Like those?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 11:17:38 PM EDT
I was a 37F, and my section was closed to women
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 4:59:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
Speaking of the chow line, be prepared to eat your whole meal in less than 5 minutes.



I still do and I ETS'd 14 years ago!
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:07:19 AM EDT
You'll have to ask a VN vet what #1 and #10 is.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:10:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/5/2006 10:11:56 AM EDT by BlueCrusader]

Originally Posted By ump45:

Where do I get information on what exactly to do in the presence of specific ranks?



Butter bar or above...salute, then appear to be doing something important.

Any NCO......assume front-leaning rest position. And what you were just doing? It was wrong.

BC
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:11:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:

Originally Posted By dalesimpson:
Last I knew it was bravo, not beta.



Yea I knew that. Alpha bravo charlie delta echo foxtrot gulf hotel indigo India juliet kilo lima mike november oscar papa quebec romeo sierra tango uniform victor whiskey x-ray yankee zulu



Your recruiter should've given you a whole packet with all this stuff in it.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:12:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ump45:
42F--Information Systems Technican
25B--lnformation Systems Operator-Analyst
25D--Telecommunications Operator-Maintainer
25F--Network Switching Systems Operator- Maintainer
25L--Cable Systems lnstaller--Maintainer



No offense, but, those sound like the most boreing jobs ever

Thanks for your service.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:18:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By DVCAPI:

Originally Posted By ump45:
42F--Information Systems Technican
25B--lnformation Systems Operator-Analyst
25D--Telecommunications Operator-Maintainer
25F--Network Switching Systems Operator- Maintainer
25L--Cable Systems lnstaller--Maintainer



In other words you want to be a REMF poque.



My thoughts exactly.

My suggestion? Join the real Army. That means pick a number below 20 for an MOS, and choose one closed to women.



Or you could be a pansy 91W, because being a combat medic, with a MOS about
as far above 20 as you can go, you'd be a TOTAL pouge.

It's not closed to women....Which I guess makes medics real girly-men.

Never mind inlight units you'll carry more crap than anyone besides the morter maggots.

Never mind you're going to be the ones stabilizeing wounds and, dragging wounded REAL
men off the field and will be with some of them for thier last moments as you fight to keep them
alive.

Yeah....Only way to be a real man is to go 20 or lower. Hoo-rah.

I guess the CMOHs won by 91 Series folks (second only to 11 Series) were won
by real pansy-asses.

More super intraweb advice.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:20:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By nickforney:
pick up a squad leader job and its to the front of chow lines too.



What ever happened to subordinates eat first? Or is that just not done in basic?
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:22:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mmx1:

Originally Posted By nickforney:
pick up a squad leader job and its to the front of chow lines too.



What ever happened to subordinates eat first? Or is that just not done in basic?



Leaders of squads eat last in thier squads. Leaders of Platoons eat after thier platoon.

In the real Army, E-4 and below eat first, then, more or less in NCO rank order from SGT on up, with the XO and, CO eating last.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:32:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Or you could be a pansy 91W, because being a combat medic, with a MOS about
as far above 20 as you can go, you'd be a TOTAL pouge.

It's not closed to women....Which I guess makes medics real girly-men.

Never mind inlight units you'll carry more crap than anyone besides the morter maggots.

Never mind you're going to be the ones stabilizeing wounds and, dragging wounded REAL
men off the field and will be with some of them for thier last moments as you fight to keep them
alive.

Yeah....Only way to be a real man is to go 20 or lower. Hoo-rah.

I guess the CMOHs won by 91 Series folks (second only to 11 Series) were won
by real pansy-asses.

More super intraweb advice.






BC
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:33:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Still trying to get used to the CWO5 rank insignia...weird...

Yes, you are correct on the rank structure


I agree on the CW5. Freaked me out. Called my father CW3 Ret. and asked him WTF!!!!

As to being right, there is one minor thing. You left out the Pvt/PV1
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:33:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's a better source that has all the US Military’s rank insignia.

www.defenselink.mil/specials/insignias/



Good link... and a good idea that you also learn other branch's rank insignia. Especially Navy... it's tough to figure out what to and not to salute when they aren't in utilities.

And when you get to Marine rank... don't call anything above SGT a SGT like in the Army... they get pretty bent about that.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:41:57 AM EDT
Boot camp will be the easiest thing you will ever have to do over your career in the Army. Keep your mouth shut, do what you are told, learn and get strong. Your real test will be what kind of soldier you are when you get out into the real army.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:47:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/5/2006 10:47:51 AM EDT by Garand_Shooter]
CW5 was created in 1991. CW5's wore the old MW4 insignia untill a couple years ago when the current "third lieutenant" style bar was adopted.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:48:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:
Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's a better source that has all the US Military’s rank insignia.

www.defenselink.mil/specials/insignias/



Good link... and a good idea that you also learn other branch's rank insignia. Especially Navy... it's tough to figure out what to and not to salute when they aren't in utilities.

And when you get to Marine rank... don't call anything above SGT a SGT like in the Army... they get pretty bent about that.[/
quote]

And if you go from the Navy to the Army don't call NCOs Sir, they get pretty bent about it too. Even more so when out of habit you answer "Aye Aye Sir" to a order. Rodger, Wilco, Over, and Out.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:50:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By DVCAPI:

Originally Posted By ump45:
42F--Information Systems Technican
25B--lnformation Systems Operator-Analyst
25D--Telecommunications Operator-Maintainer
25F--Network Switching Systems Operator- Maintainer
25L--Cable Systems lnstaller--Maintainer



In other words you want to be a REMF poque.



My thoughts exactly.

My suggestion? Join the real Army. That means pick a number below 20 for an MOS, and choose one closed to women.



Or you could be a pansy 91W, because being a combat medic, with a MOS about
as far above 20 as you can go, you'd be a TOTAL pouge.

It's not closed to women....Which I guess makes medics real girly-men.

Never mind inlight units you'll carry more crap than anyone besides the morter maggots.

Never mind you're going to be the ones stabilizeing wounds and, dragging wounded REAL
men off the field and will be with some of them for thier last moments as you fight to keep them
alive.

Yeah....Only way to be a real man is to go 20 or lower. Hoo-rah.
I guess the CMOHs won by 91 Series folks (second only to 11 Series) were won
by real pansy-asses.

More super intraweb advice.



Ain't nothing REMF about a combat medic/ corpman.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 10:52:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DVCAPI:

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Originally Posted By Tim84K10:

Originally Posted By DVCAPI:

Originally Posted By ump45:
42F--Information Systems Technican
25B--lnformation Systems Operator-Analyst
25D--Telecommunications Operator-Maintainer
25F--Network Switching Systems Operator- Maintainer
25L--Cable Systems lnstaller--Maintainer



In other words you want to be a REMF poque.



My thoughts exactly.

My suggestion? Join the real Army. That means pick a number below 20 for an MOS, and choose one closed to women.



Or you could be a pansy 91W, because being a combat medic, with a MOS about
as far above 20 as you can go, you'd be a TOTAL pouge.

It's not closed to women....Which I guess makes medics real girly-men.

Never mind inlight units you'll carry more crap than anyone besides the morter maggots.

Never mind you're going to be the ones stabilizeing wounds and, dragging wounded REAL
men off the field and will be with some of them for thier last moments as you fight to keep them
alive.

Yeah....Only way to be a real man is to go 20 or lower. Hoo-rah.
I guess the CMOHs won by 91 Series folks (second only to 11 Series) were won
by real pansy-asses.

More super intraweb advice.



Ain't nothing REMF about a combat medic/ corpman.



Damn straight. I was one.
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