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Posted: 3/4/2006 2:29:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 2:30:26 PM EDT by M4-AK]
Remington now introduces the 1100 G3. It has teflon treated parts as in the Competition model and has the pressure compensation system of the 11-87. What they have done essentially is killed the 1100 and renamed the 11-87 the 1100 G3.

Of course it could be construed that the 1100 and 1187 are essentially the same gun except for the pressure compensation system. I had always heard that you could install an 1100 barrell on an 11-87 but do not know if the 11-87 barrel compensation would work on the 1100.

I'll miss the pure 1100.

M4-AK
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:40:58 PM EDT
Interesting.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:41:53 PM EDT
I shoot a mossberg anyway
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:42:15 PM EDT
www.remington.com new products for 2006...
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:43:01 PM EDT
Benellis are better!
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:03:50 PM EDT
The 1100 should have been killed long ago with the introduction of the 11-87. The 11-87 is all an 1100 ever was, and then more. But the Kool Aid drinkers cannot comprehend that all that separates both is that little flat spring relief valve on the gas cylinder.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:04:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
I shoot a mossberg anyway


+1
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:09:05 PM EDT
Have you seen the new 105 CTi?



Remington 105 CTi

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:11:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
I shoot a mossberg anyway


+1



Me too. I prefer the position of the safety on Mossbergs.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:13:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DOW:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
I shoot a mossberg anyway


+1


Me too. I prefer the position of the safety on Mossbergs.


Yep. It's pretty rugged, too.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:20:14 PM EDT
Beretta 391 is soooooo much sweeter. IMHO.

Woody
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:27:44 PM EDT
i'll stick w/ my 1100, thank you. i've never fired an 11-87, so cannot comment on it.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:34:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Bricklayer:
Have you seen the new 105 CTi?

www.remington.com/images/products/firearms/shotgun/smsil_105cti.jpg

Remington 105 CTi




That could be a winner...


Looks sweet on paper anyway.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:42:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Remington now introduces the 1100 G3. It has teflon treated parts as in the Competition model and has the pressure compensation system of the 11-87. What they have done essentially is killed the 1100 and renamed the 11-87 the 1100 G3.

Of course it could be construed that the 1100 and 1187 are essentially the same gun except for the pressure compensation system. I had always heard that you could install an 1100 barrell on an 11-87 but do not know if the 11-87 barrel compensation would work on the 1100.

I'll miss the pure 1100.

M4-AK




I really wanted the 1100 competition master for home defense. By the time I learned of it , it was discontinued. I hope this 1100 g3 will be 8+1. I just don't understand why a company would make something so popular only to discontinue it.

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:52:32 PM EDT
I thought that they discontinued the 1100 competition. But.....

www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/tactical_shotguns.asp
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:27:40 PM EDT
I've always been a big 1100 fan, but this is the way it usually goes. The 1100 is simply "outdated" to most, even though it fits a niche very well. My father and I have taken a lot of game with 1100's, so I will definitely keep one in the safe.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:31:12 PM EDT
Remington needed to replace both the 1100 and 11-87 5 years ago. They have virtually no part of the semi-auto shotgun market in the last 5 years. They are an outdated and inferior deseign compared to nearly every other maker out there. There 105CTI gun looks promising but well have to wait until we can see the internal workings of it.

Bill3508
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:33:50 PM EDT
Benelli


M1S90 12ga in black
M1S90 20ga in camo

I do love 'em.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:37:27 PM EDT
The only shotgun I shoot is a 20 gauge 1100.

My dad has shot his 1100 since 1974.

It's a great shotgun design

CRC
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:48:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bill3508:
Remington needed to replace both the 1100 and 11-87 5 years ago. They have virtually no part of the semi-auto shotgun market in the last 5 years. They are an outdated and inferior deseign compared to nearly every other maker out there. There 105CTI gun looks promising but well have to wait until we can see the internal workings of it.

Bill3508



Inferior? Please elaborate.

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:51:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SWO_daddy:
The 1100 should have been killed long ago with the introduction of the 11-87. The 11-87 is all an 1100 ever was, and then more. But the Kool Aid drinkers cannot comprehend that all that separates both is that little flat spring relief valve on the gas cylinder.



+1
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:01:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By techdudenc:

Originally Posted By SWO_daddy:
The 1100 should have been killed long ago with the introduction of the 11-87. The 11-87 is all an 1100 ever was, and then more. But the Kool Aid drinkers cannot comprehend that all that separates both is that little flat spring relief valve on the gas cylinder.



+1



The 1100 can't chamber 3" shells, can it???

The 11-87 can.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:03:38 PM EDT
I have an 1100 20 gauge magnum for 3" 20 gauge shells
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:33:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bill3508:
Remington needed to replace both the 1100 and 11-87 5 years ago. They have virtually no part of the semi-auto shotgun market in the last 5 years. They are an outdated and inferior deseign compared to nearly every other maker out there. There 105CTI gun looks promising but well have to wait until we can see the internal workings of it.

Bill3508


Even I'm an ardent support of "made in the USA," I would agree. I've shot a number of semi-auto shotguns from Benneli, Beretta, etc and they are much smoother than my 11-87. If I had to replace my Remington 11-87, it won't be another 11-87.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:04:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By DOW:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
I shoot a mossberg anyway


+1


Me too. I prefer the position of the safety on Mossbergs.


Yep. It's pretty rugged, too.


Cat's ass until you get a pistol grip involved in the equation.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:11:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By bill3508:
Remington needed to replace both the 1100 and 11-87 5 years ago. They have virtually no part of the semi-auto shotgun market in the last 5 years. They are an outdated and inferior deseign compared to nearly every other maker out there. There 105CTI gun looks promising but well have to wait until we can see the internal workings of it.

Bill3508


Even I'm an ardent support of "made in the USA," I would agree. I've shot a number of semi-auto shotguns from Benneli, Beretta, etc and they are much smoother than my 11-87. If I had to replace my Remington 11-87, it won't be another 11-87.



I have a 12 gauge 11-87 Premiere. It's pretty, PRETTY FUCKING HEAVY! I should get one of those light weight Italian guns. I want one. I just can't bring myself to shelve my American beef for spaghetti.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 10:22:43 PM EDT
Yeah, there's a long list of dove, squirrels, rabbits, grouse and turkey's that wanna bitch about my 12ga. 1100 too.
I don't know what all the fuss is about, the 1100 can do anything you ask it to do. It's easy to take care of, rugged, can eat anything from 00buck to #9skeet (slugs even, with a simple barrel change)
Ok, so it won't take 3" shells....big deal, if you can't take down what you're aiming at with hi-brass 2 3/4" ....then its time to go home and get the 45-70 or hit the range for a little more practice.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 11:39:01 AM EDT
Did someone say Benelli???

Um.

Well, here is my take on Benelli (pick any model): OVER-RATED!

Greatly over priced and over hyped. I never understood the hype, really. I've fired maybe 50 rounds from a Benelli, and a thousand + rounds through a Rremington11-87P. The little tiny extra heft I hear about is trivial. Also, come to think about it, the two Benelli's that are fired side by side with my Rem11-87P seem to have never ending reliability issues (one has gone, come back, and gone again to the armorer and it still has issues).

To each his own, I guess.



Link Posted: 3/5/2006 11:50:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By bill3508:
Remington needed to replace both the 1100 and 11-87 5 years ago. They have virtually no part of the semi-auto shotgun market in the last 5 years. They are an outdated and inferior deseign compared to nearly every other maker out there. There 105CTI gun looks promising but well have to wait until we can see the internal workings of it.

Bill3508


Even I'm an ardent support of "made in the USA," I would agree. I've shot a number of semi-auto shotguns from Benneli, Beretta, etc and they are much smoother than my 11-87. If I had to replace my Remington 11-87, it won't be another 11-87.



I have a 12 gauge 11-87 Premiere. It's pretty, PRETTY FUCKING HEAVY! I should get one of those light weight Italian guns. I want one. I just can't bring myself to shelve my American beef for spaghetti.



i once thought that, too. I borrowed a friends at the trap range and was really glad i had not purchased one. my 1100 (it's a classic trap) may weigh a bit more, but i find i can swing more smoothly and steadily with it. The kick is entirely manageable also, the lighter shotguns kick in a way i don't care for. it just seems easier to shoot with.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 11:54:56 AM EDT
I might have me one for shooting trap on the weekends.


Casual affair, don't need an uber shotgun, just a plain semi auto.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 11:55:05 AM EDT
I love my 1100.

We have three in my family, one passed down from my grandfather to my Dad to my brother and it still runs like a top.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 1:08:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/5/2006 1:13:16 PM EDT by neophyte]

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
Benellis are better!



And a great deal more expensive!

I bought an 11-87 super magnum for $540 The Banelli Super Balck Eagle was going for $1100 at the time.

My 11-87 kills ducks and geese just as dead.

The Remington weighs about a pound more but it has never been a problem in the blind.

The 11-87 has less perceived recoil due to the gas operation over the inertia system

edited
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 1:10:58 PM EDT
It's ok, the chinese will make a under 300 dollar copy for everyone.
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