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Posted: 3/4/2006 5:16:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 5:19:30 AM EDT by M60-E4]
I have been using Walmart.com to download all my songs for the past year. I now want to get a MP3 palyer but it says on the Walmart site that their songs are not compatible with the I-pod as the songs are WMA. Should I get another brand of MP3 player or is there a way to transfer these songs and make them work with the I-Pod?

Is there a better site to download from? Walmart cost $.88 and they have been very safe and secure to purchase from.

Semper Fi,
M60-E4

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:19:40 AM EDT
are they MP3's?

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:29:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 5:34:06 AM EDT by M60-E4]
I will say no as i believe they are considered WMAs....although my MP3/I-Pod vocabulary is weak.

When i try and use I-tunes to convert them it gives me an error saying they are protected and can not be converted. I was hoping there was a progam to get around this for the ones I have, and I would then just purchase from another site as eveyone seems to say the I-Pod is the way to go.

Semper Fi,
M60-E4



Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:44:33 AM EDT
If you get an IPod (which I recommend) you're not going to want to use iTunes to control/manage it anyway. You'll want to get Anapod Explorer. With Anapod explorer, you can play WMAs on the iPod.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:57:25 AM EDT
Thanks for the info. Will this program even convert the protected WMAs so they will play on the I-Pod?

Here is an example of my error...

One or more of the songs being added are in the protected WMA format, including the song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma”, and could not be converted.
iTunes can only convert unprotected WMA songs. If you have the original CDs for these songs, you can import them using iTunes.

The song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma” could not be converted because it is in protected WMA format.


Semper Fi,
M60-E4

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:59:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 5:59:37 AM EDT by -Absolut-]
Check out the mp3 players from iAudio or iRiver. Better players at a much better value.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:59:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 6:00:51 AM EDT by Dave15]

Originally Posted By M60-E4:
Thanks for the info. Will this program even convert the protected WMAs so they will play on the I-Pod?

Here is an example of my error...

One or more of the songs being added are in the protected WMA format, including the song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma”, and could not be converted.
iTunes can only convert unprotected WMA songs. If you have the original CDs for these songs, you can import them using iTunes.

The song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma” could not be converted because it is in protected WMA format.




per Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg




It's just displaying good taste in music sir,that you so obviously lack!
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:04:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:13:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 6:14:32 AM EDT by M60-E4]

Originally Posted By Dave15:

Originally Posted By M60-E4:
Thanks for the info. Will this program even convert the protected WMAs so they will play on the I-Pod?

Here is an example of my error...

One or more of the songs being added are in the protected WMA format, including the song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma”, and could not be converted.
iTunes can only convert unprotected WMA songs. If you have the original CDs for these songs, you can import them using iTunes.

The song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma” could not be converted because it is in protected WMA format.




per Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg




It's just displaying good taste in music sir,that you so obviously lack!



Hey...I'm a damn "redneck'!!!!

Semper Fi,
M60-E4
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:18:36 AM EDT
Stupid question from someone thinking about getting an ipod...

I don't want to hijack this thread, but how do you get your CD collection into the ipod?
I assume you play the CD on your computer's CD drive and hook the ipod up to the
computer's USB port. Is this right?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:26:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 6:26:41 AM EDT by Dave15]

Originally Posted By M60-E4:

Originally Posted By Dave15:

Originally Posted By M60-E4:
Thanks for the info. Will this program even convert the protected WMAs so they will play on the I-Pod?

Here is an example of my error...

One or more of the songs being added are in the protected WMA format, including the song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma”, and could not be converted.
iTunes can only convert unprotected WMA songs. If you have the original CDs for these songs, you can import them using iTunes.

The song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma” could not be converted because it is in protected WMA format.




per Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg




It's just displaying good taste in music sir,that you so obviously lack!



Hey...I'm a damn "redneck'!!!!

Semper Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg



I'm sorry.Wrong answer.The terms "redneck" and "BonJovi "are mutually exclusive.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:28:58 AM EDT
Yeah, but Jennifer Nettles overides Bon Jovi.

Semper Fi,
M60-E4

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:32:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave15:

Originally Posted By M60-E4:

Originally Posted By Dave15:

Originally Posted By M60-E4:
Thanks for the info. Will this program even convert the protected WMAs so they will play on the I-Pod?

Here is an example of my error...

One or more of the songs being added are in the protected WMA format, including the song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma”, and could not be converted.
iTunes can only convert unprotected WMA songs. If you have the original CDs for these songs, you can import them using iTunes.

The song “Bon_Jovi-13-Who_Says_You_Can't_Go_Home_-_Featuring_Jennifer_Nettles.wma” could not be converted because it is in protected WMA format.




per Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg




It's just displaying good taste in music sir,that you so obviously lack!



Hey...I'm a damn "redneck'!!!!

Semper Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg



I'm sorry.Wrong answer.The terms "redneck" and "BonJovi "are mutually exclusive.



yesh, but there's a lot of overlap in the form of Camaros and mullets
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:34:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
Stupid question from someone thinking about getting an ipod...

I don't want to hijack this thread, but how do you get your CD collection into the ipod?
I assume you play the CD on your computer's CD drive and hook the ipod up to the
computer's USB port. Is this right?



You "rip" (transfer) your songs onto your computer from the CDs, and then you transfer them to the iPod. It only takes a few minutes to rip a whole cd.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:36:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M60-E4:
Yeah, but Jennifer Nettles overides Bon Jovi.

Semper Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg



Nice try.
For your penance,you must listen to "One From the Road" in it's entirity.On 8 track.Then take a leak off your front porch,whilst holding a longneck Bud in your free hand.

Didn't want to hijack the thread.Wife is wanting one of them music box thingies,and I'm,er,less than tech-savvy my own self.I'll shut up and pay attention now.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:37:49 AM EDT
NoVaGator,

Being a "Gator" myself, I am going to go with your suggestion. Me and my wife have a $^&%load of Protected WMAs we downloaded from Walmart.com, but we are both set on the I-Pod and hope this program will get around the protected code and allow use to use them on the I-Pod

Semper Fi,
M60-E4

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:38:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 6:41:28 AM EDT by pv74]
Just got my 30 Gig Ipod video today at the land of the big BX...

I am in love..


7,500 songs in the palm of your hand...and a 14 hour battery life...
Recharges on your USB port...
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:45:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
If you get an IPod (which I recommend) you're not going to want to use iTunes to control/manage it anyway. You'll want to get Anapod Explorer. With Anapod explorer, you can play WMAs on the iPod.



Hmmm...

Will have to give this a try.. I havent looked at third party software yet

The only thing I dont like is that I have to use Quicktime pro to convert the videos that I want to put onto it... Oh well, only thirty bucks...

Damn you Steve Jobs...sucker me into actually buying Quicktime
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:53:30 AM EDT
I guess I will have to be the lone dissenter and say- Get a different one!

I love my Creative ZEN Micro(Name is stupid; player is great). 5GB of MP3/WMA player goodness. If you want a larger capacity one get the regular ZEN, which holds 20GB, and I think they also make a 30GB. I got my Micro for $170, and the 20GB model should be able to be had for around $200.

I HATE APPLE!!!
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:54:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pv74:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
If you get an IPod (which I recommend) you're not going to want to use iTunes to control/manage it anyway. You'll want to get Anapod Explorer. With Anapod explorer, you can play WMAs on the iPod.



Hmmm...

Will have to give this a try.. I havent looked at third party software yet

The only thing I dont like is that I have to use Quicktime pro to convert the videos that I want to put onto it... Oh well, only thirty bucks...

Damn you Steve Jobs...sucker me into actually buying Quicktime



I think the latest version of iTunes will convert videos for free.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:58:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mandingo:

Originally Posted By pv74:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
If you get an IPod (which I recommend) you're not going to want to use iTunes to control/manage it anyway. You'll want to get Anapod Explorer. With Anapod explorer, you can play WMAs on the iPod.



Hmmm...

Will have to give this a try.. I havent looked at third party software yet

The only thing I dont like is that I have to use Quicktime pro to convert the videos that I want to put onto it... Oh well, only thirty bucks...

Damn you Steve Jobs...sucker me into actually buying Quicktime



I think the latest version of iTunes will convert videos for free.




What???

But the Apple site tells me to buy Quicktime Pro...

Just got this thing hours ago... I am using the version of I tunes that came on the install CD...
Will download the latest version and give that a go...
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:02:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:
I guess I will have to be the lone dissenter and say- Get a different one!

I love my Creative ZEN Micro(Name is stupid; player is great). 5GB of MP3/WMA player goodness. If you want a larger capacity one get the regular ZEN, which holds 20GB, and I think they also make a 30GB. I got my Micro for $170, and the 20GB model should be able to be had for around $200.

I HATE APPLE!!!



This is the first time that I have ever bought anything Apple...I never liked Macs...

But I think Apple has a winner with the Ipod... I think they did a damned good job on the design...
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:05:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:06:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M60-E4:
I have been using Walmart.com to download all my songs for the past year. I now want to get a MP3 palyer but it says on the Walmart site that their songs are not compatible with the I-pod as the songs are WMA. Should I get another brand of MP3 player or is there a way to transfer these songs and make them work with the I-Pod?

Is there a better site to download from? Walmart cost $.88 and they have been very safe and secure to purchase from.

Semper Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg




This may work, also check out the other software at the bottom of the page
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:06:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:

<SNIP>

You "rip" (transfer) your songs onto your computer from the CDs, and then you transfer them to the iPod. It only takes a few minutes to rip a whole cd.



Thanks
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:09:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By --bullseye--:
I guess I will have to be the lone dissenter and say- Get a different one!

I love my Creative ZEN Micro(Name is stupid; player is great). 5GB of MP3/WMA player goodness. If you want a larger capacity one get the regular ZEN, which holds 20GB, and I think they also make a 30GB. I got my Micro for $170, and the 20GB model should be able to be had for around $200.

I HATE APPLE!!!



I'll be the second dissenter.

I've got the Creative Sleek. 20gb of musical goodness. Paid $250 at Frys.

I refuse to buy anything made by apple.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:14:36 AM EDT
I was thinking of getting the Zen as well - I have seen them with 40 GB drives that hold 16,000 songs as well.

Is there anything on the horizon I should wait for? Something better/bigger/smaller, etc.?

I really want the most capacity I can get and for it to be reliable and have a good interface.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:15:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
Check out the mp3 players from iAudio or iRiver. Better players at a much better value.

\

+1

I have an IAudio. It has a better SNR than Ipods and plays more formats...and is a bit cheaper....and battery life is longer..etc etc...Its just alot better. But it doesnt make you a better person like the Ipod does
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:21:18 AM EDT
Iaudio's @ newegg.com

oh yea, plays video and pictures too. and has an FM radio and sound recorder...etc etc

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:01:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
Stupid question from someone thinking about getting an ipod...

I don't want to hijack this thread, but how do you get your CD collection into the ipod?
I assume you play the CD on your computer's CD drive and hook the ipod up to the
computer's USB port. Is this right?



If you are using iTunes, all you have to do is start iTunes, and then pop in the CD. iTunes will basically do the rest. It will go online and download all the cd and track info, rip the cd to your hard drive, and add the music to your iTunes library.

The next time you sync up your iPod, it will be there for you.

Couldn't get any easier, unless it came with a little servant robot to swap discs for you.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:06:30 AM EDT
DON'T EVEN INSTALL ITUNES!!!!!

If you do, make sure you set it up to rip mp3s, not AAC.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:12:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M60-E4:
I have been using Walmart.com to download all my songs for the past year. I now want to get a MP3 palyer but it says on the Walmart site that their songs are not compatible with the I-pod as the songs are WMA. Should I get another brand of MP3 player or is there a way to transfer these songs and make them work with the I-Pod?

Is there a better site to download from? Walmart cost $.88 and they have been very safe and secure to purchase from.

Semper Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg



You can convert WMA files to MP3 files which an iPod will play just fine.

The problem is that if you have an iPod you are stuck with iTunes to manage it, and I don't like iTunes or the proprietary format it saves songs with.

The hard drive based iPods are also not good choices when you move around a lot with your MP3 player.

iPods also do not have replacable batteries, which sucks the big one.

iPods look cool, but most will get better service out of one of the other 3 billion MP3 players on the market.

Personally I like my iAudio 5 player. 130 bucks for a small, light, easy to use player that holds all my CD's and downloads with no problem.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:15:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
Stupid question from someone thinking about getting an ipod...

I don't want to hijack this thread, but how do you get your CD collection into the ipod?
I assume you play the CD on your computer's CD drive and hook the ipod up to the
computer's USB port. Is this right?



You pop your CD into the computer and let iTunes convert the CD into electronic format, which by default will be apple's proprietary format that nothing else can read. Then you tell iTunes to download the songs to your iPod.

It is simpler to do with iTunes than with any other system.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:15:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By M60-E4:
I have been using Walmart.com to download all my songs for the past year. I now want to get a MP3 palyer but it says on the Walmart site that their songs are not compatible with the I-pod as the songs are WMA. Should I get another brand of MP3 player or is there a way to transfer these songs and make them work with the I-Pod?

Is there a better site to download from? Walmart cost $.88 and they have been very safe and secure to purchase from.

Semper Fi,
M60-E4
i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/M60-E4/Mk-43.jpg



You can convert WMA files to MP3 files which an iPod will play just fine.

The problem is that if you have an iPod you are stuck with iTunes to manage it, and I don't like iTunes or the proprietary format it saves songs with.

The hard drive based iPods are also not good choices when you move around a lot with your MP3 player.

iPods also do not have replacable batteries, which sucks the big one.

iPods look cool, but most will get better service out of one of the other 3 billion MP3 players on the market.

Personally I like my iAudio 5 player. 130 bucks for a small, light, easy to use player that holds all my CD's and downloads with no problem.




bzzzzzzzzt. Read the thread JW.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:19:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
bzzzzzzzzt. Read the thread JW.



Believe me, I have done more with iPods than anyone else has. (We actually use them here at work for various purposes...) I know there are third party apps out there, but lots of folks have had problems with those third party apps....

Most are going to stick with iTunes anyway, as they don't have to buy it.

The most reliable way to use your iPod is with iTunes, which sucks major hosewater.

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:23:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:24:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
Stupid question from someone thinking about getting an ipod...

I don't want to hijack this thread, but how do you get your CD collection into the ipod?
I assume you play the CD on your computer's CD drive and hook the ipod up to the
computer's USB port. Is this right?



You pop your CD into the computer and let iTunes convert the CD into electronic format, which by default will be apple's proprietary format that nothing else can read. Then you tell iTunes to download the songs to your iPod.

It is simpler to do with iTunes than with any other system.



Or you can go in to (get this...) the SETTINGS menu and change the type of encoding you want!

The real horrible crime is the download sites which don't give you a choice, and WON'T LET YOU BURN TO CD, I don't know if Walmart is this way.

To the original poster... If you can burn your purchased music to CD, then do it and then rip the CD to mp3. If you can't, then you got conned into buying music just for your computer or COMPATIBLE player.

Don't use any format other than MP3 just for usefulnesses sake.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:24:56 AM EDT
BTW -- There are multiple programs that strip all that copy protection BS from the songs that you can buy online. For iTunes, jhymn is probably the best.

For wma files, several utilities exist, but personally I have just been burning them to a CD and then converting the .wav file off of the CD into a standard mp3 format.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:26:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Torf:
Or you can go in to (get this...) the SETTINGS menu and change the type of encoding you want!



Which is why I said that the DEFAULT setting was proprietary, meaning that you can CHANGE the format.

You have no such choice about iTunes downloads.

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:34:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By Torf:
Or you can go in to (get this...) the SETTINGS menu and change the type of encoding you want!



Which is why I said that the DEFAULT setting was proprietary, meaning that you can CHANGE the format.

You have no such choice about iTunes downloads.




Look. It isn't much of a knock against iTunes, if they make it easy to switch encoders. You made it sound a lot worse than it is.

That is why I use Napster, or else burn what I want to CD, then rip it to Mp3.

The encrypted WMA coding is impossible to remove last time I looked. The only way is to burn/rip a cd, or else to play and record the music to your HD, and then encode the WAV file. This is slow and a PITA.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 8:48:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
bzzzzzzzzt. Read the thread JW.



Believe me, I have done more with iPods than anyone else has. (We actually use them here at work for various purposes...) I know there are third party apps out there, but lots of folks have had problems with those third party apps....

Most are going to stick with iTunes anyway, as they don't have to buy it.

The most reliable way to use your iPod is with iTunes, which sucks major hosewater.





While I agree that most will use iTunes, they are absolutely not forced to use it.

More than a few posters here use Anapod
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:00:45 AM EDT
As far as a place to buy your music, check out Allofmp3.com. I have been using it for about a year or two and it works for me and is WAY cheaper than walmart. They charge you based on the size of a song, so say a 3:30 minute song is 4.8mb - the cost for that one song is 10 cents and thats at 192kbps. You can get it encoded at a higher rate, but I find that quality works for me. You can order what ever songs you want so you're not stuck ordering the entire album if you only like two songs. You can preview every song at low quality. Payment is easy. I usualy just put in $50 a time and it pulls from you account. $50 lasts me a while considering the songs are on average 10 cents each.

It is based out of Russia, and I was skeptical at first. But I have no complaints.

Nick
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:22:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:28:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:

Originally Posted By Nicholastheczar:
As far as a place to buy your music, check out Allofmp3.com. I have been using it for about a year or two and it works for me and is WAY cheaper than walmart. They charge you based on the size of a song, so say a 3:30 minute song is 4.8mb - the cost for that one song is 10 cents and thats at 192kbps. You can get it encoded at a higher rate, but I find that quality works for me. You can order what ever songs you want so you're not stuck ordering the entire album if you only like two songs. You can preview every song at low quality. Payment is easy. I usualy just put in $50 a time and it pulls from you account. $50 lasts me a while considering the songs are on average 10 cents each.

It is based out of Russia, and I was skeptical at first. But I have no complaints.

Nick


Hmm.

How is that legitimate?

I just looked at Metallica's (the bastards that started all this .mp3 controversy) St. Anger. For the entire album, they're only charging $2.11?



we do this thread once a month. Where have you been?
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 1:40:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:

Originally Posted By Nicholastheczar:
As far as a place to buy your music, check out Allofmp3.com. I have been using it for about a year or two and it works for me and is WAY cheaper than walmart. They charge you based on the size of a song, so say a 3:30 minute song is 4.8mb - the cost for that one song is 10 cents and thats at 192kbps. You can get it encoded at a higher rate, but I find that quality works for me. You can order what ever songs you want so you're not stuck ordering the entire album if you only like two songs. You can preview every song at low quality. Payment is easy. I usualy just put in $50 a time and it pulls from you account. $50 lasts me a while considering the songs are on average 10 cents each.

It is based out of Russia, and I was skeptical at first. But I have no complaints.

Nick


Hmm.

How is that legitimate?

I just looked at Metallica's (the bastards that started all this .mp3 controversy) St. Anger. For the entire album, they're only charging $2.11?



Read about it on Wikipedia.

I have not used it yet, but I plan to when I get the time.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 1:53:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Torf:

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:

Originally Posted By Nicholastheczar:
As far as a place to buy your music, check out Allofmp3.com. I have been using it for about a year or two and it works for me and is WAY cheaper than walmart. They charge you based on the size of a song, so say a 3:30 minute song is 4.8mb - the cost for that one song is 10 cents and thats at 192kbps. You can get it encoded at a higher rate, but I find that quality works for me. You can order what ever songs you want so you're not stuck ordering the entire album if you only like two songs. You can preview every song at low quality. Payment is easy. I usualy just put in $50 a time and it pulls from you account. $50 lasts me a while considering the songs are on average 10 cents each.

It is based out of Russia, and I was skeptical at first. But I have no complaints.

Nick


Hmm.

How is that legitimate?

I just looked at Metallica's (the bastards that started all this .mp3 controversy) St. Anger. For the entire album, they're only charging $2.11?



Read about it on Wikipedia.

I have not used it yet, but I plan to when I get the time.



it's not legitimate.

It's stolen music from russia.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:15:07 PM EDT
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