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Posted: 3/3/2006 9:54:13 PM EDT
Its true , according to Mayor Daily , Gov. Blago , and our "news Media" , - new "gun safety" bill being pushed by these three " devils of deception" are only a "few enlightened" Democrat votes away form becoming " the wet dream utopian reality" of every hard core communist sense Lennon .

Illinois gun owners have "90 days to TURN IN OR DESTROY , any "assault weapon" , 50 cal bolt gun , large capacity ammunition feeding device , over 10 rd. capacity" - sounds good - right -

Do Daley and Blago really think dumbass gun owners in Illinois , are gonna stand in line and "surrender" - or destroy their own property , NO , their goal - create a new class of "outlaws"- called gun ownere , drive them into the "closet" - so they have to be in fear that if they ever bring their gun to a public shooting range , some ATF- or other cop will tap them on the shoulder , and say " you are under arrest" - ------------- i have been getting calls from the NRA like crazzzy on this , and all i have to say is - Vote Democrat , if you want to feel safe , in your community !!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:58:18 PM EDT
Soon they will call it The Peoples Republic of Illinois
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:01:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buzgun:
Its true , according to Mayor Daily , Gov. Blago , and our "news Media" , - new "gun safety" bill being pushed by these three " devils of deception" are only a "few enlightened" Democrat votes away form becoming " the wet dream utopian reality" of every hard core communist sense Lennon .

Illinois gun owners have "90 days to TURN IN OR DESTROY , any "assault weapon" , 50 cal bolt gun , large capacity ammunition feeding device , over 10 rd. capacity" - sounds good - right -

Do Daley and Blago really think dumbass gun owners in Illinois , are gonna stand in line and "surrender" - or destroy their own property , NO , their goal - create a new class of "outlaws"- called gun ownere , drive them into the "closet" - so they have to be in fear that if they ever bring their gun to a public shooting range , some ATF- or other cop will tap them on the shoulder , and say " you are under arrest" - ------------- i have been getting calls from the NRA like crazzzy on this , and all i have to say is - Vote Democrat , if you want to feel safe , in your community !!



I know what you mean... i think these idiots ought to realize that anything can be used as a weapon. Why dont we ban TVS because its possible to kill someone with it?? And whatever happend to blaming the person for their actions... guns arent to blame for deaths, people are. I ended up purchasing a 9mm so I wouldnt have to lay in bed at night and worry that my abusive ex husband was going to kill me and my baby. I have a restraining order that says, no contact for 1,000 feet, by the time he gets that close the peice of paper will have done no good, i will be dead. I can sleep now at night knowing I have some kind of protection. I live in washington, one of the most liberal states in the country, it wont be long and they will take my right to protect myself from him away. Thanks for posting this, its very interesting.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:01:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 10:03:10 PM EDT by drjarhead]
A segment of the original Declaration of Indpendence:


That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:03:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:10:06 PM EDT
At least in Cali we got to keep ours. If you guys wanna fight I'll help ya out.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:28:33 PM EDT
And the best part is, all you law abiding suckers have your FOID cards, so they know exactly who to go after.

Funny, all the time I hear how the "slippery slope" argument is a fallacy...

Hurry up and load those mags before all the best rooftops are taken...

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:39:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 10:41:44 PM EDT by buzgun]

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:
And the best part is, all you law abiding suckers have your FOID cards, so they know exactly who to go after.

Funny, all the time I hear how the "slippery slope" argument is a fallacy...

Hurry up and load those mags before all the best rooftops are taken...




Ahh yes , the IFOID card , , PromptCritical - you are a very dangerous individual - obviously you are one of the ones who can "see" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I waited 2 months , to get my IFOID card , .--( IFOID cards are for those of you who live in "red states" - are little plastic photo ID cards we Illinois gun owners MUST have - registering the gun owner, -if you will-)
these are to "prevent mentally defective people" from obtaining firearms --- i got one , but now the commies are about to find me "mentially defective" anyway - and may use these FOID cards to ID those of us who own guns ---- funny how that one worked !!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:59:44 PM EDT
What color star will they pin to the shirts of gunowners in Illinois?
Good thing you guys lined up and registered like good little Juden.
My mind is made up - I will never register my guns.
If it is state by state, I will move until I have nowhere else to go.
After that...
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:01:32 PM EDT
Nah, can't be. The Brady bunch says that registration is common sense and will never be used to take our guns...
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:07:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 11:08:49 PM EDT by jollyroger]

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
After that...



Rooftops.

Do you have a link with more info?
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:15:04 PM EDT
+1 for Rooftops™
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:34:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 11:35:45 PM EDT by sum-rifle]

Originally Posted By buzgun:
Its true , according to Mayor Daily , Gov. Blago , and our "news Media" , - new "gun safety" bill being pushed by these three " devils of deception" are only a "few enlightened" Democrat votes away from becoming " the wet dream utopian reality" of every hard core communist since Lenin .

Illinois gun owners have "90 days to TURN IN OR DESTROY , any "assault weapon" , 50 cal bolt gun , large capacity ammunition feeding device , over 10 rd. capacity" - sounds good - right -

Do Daley and Blago really think dumbass gun owners in Illinois , are gonna stand in line and "surrender" - or destroy their own property , NO , their goal - create a new class of "outlaws"- called gun ownere , drive them into the "closet" - so they have to be in fear that if they ever bring their gun to a public shooting range , some ATF- or other cop will tap them on the shoulder , and say " you are under arrest" - ------------- i have been getting calls from the NRA like crazzzy on this , and all i have to say is - Vote Democrat , if you you are a fucking idiot !!

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 1:51:07 AM EDT
I really hope that this doesn't pass
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:06:04 AM EDT
Well, you can take your tax generating, hard working, gun owning ass out of their shitty little state and move to another than doesn't ostracize it's citizens.

That's the rub with democracy, sometimes it's by Mob Rule.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 2:27:25 AM EDT
This sucks I am a logistics officer and I love my AR's they are mine and mine alone!!! I might be stationed at SCOTT AFB and now they say I cant have my weapons. Well they are not assult rifles they are not full auto or burst standerd Semi well they look like one so I am a dumb@55 and cant tell the difference well here is my steak knife going to take that away too since more people are assulted with knifes and frying pans. I think Illinois just became a domestic enemy and according to my oath all enemies foriegn and domestic. Hmmm Daly Hmmm lets see they keep taking our rights away without even trying to change the constitution Glad I have 10 more mags on the way to NM Now I really hope I dont go to Scott AFB I thought it would be a good assignement.

I will go to Minot before Scott at least I get my freedom but its so Cold.......sorry wife Illnois is a bad state now I volunteered for Minot and Grand Forks that way we can be free. What do you mean; well Illnois wont let us have the our guns we are entitled to have according to the constitution and I cant live in a place where they will not let you be free and cant trust lawful people who are willing to defend their family and friends.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 3:49:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By buzgun:

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:
And the best part is, all you law abiding suckers have your FOID cards, so they know exactly who to go after.

Funny, all the time I hear how the "slippery slope" argument is a fallacy...

Hurry up and load those mags before all the best rooftops are taken...




Ahh yes , the IFOID card , , PromptCritical - you are a very dangerous individual - obviously you are one of the ones who can "see" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I waited 2 months , to get my IFOID card , .--( IFOID cards are for those of you who live in "red states" - are little plastic photo ID cards we Illinois gun owners MUST have - registering the gun owner, -if you will-)
these are to "prevent mentally defective people" from obtaining firearms --- i got one , but now the commies are about to find me "mentially defective" anyway - and may use these FOID cards to ID those of us who own guns ---- funny how that one worked !!



Yes, Comrade, it's time to get on the big bus to the re-education camp. Off to Siberia you go (or to a mass grave - not saying they'd do that, but it's the same type of person in charge).

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 4:20:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ATNT:
I really hope that this doesn't pass



It appears that it wasn't even voted on:

Link to post in IL Hometown forum
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:00:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Well, you can take your tax generating, hard working, gun owning ass out of their shitty little state and move to another than doesn't ostracize it's citizens.

That's the rub with democracy, sometimes it's by Mob Rule.



Tax'es & Tolls --- dont get me started !
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:09:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
A segment of the original Declaration of Indpendence:


That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.



Small problem, when that was written 90% of the public was not sucking on the governments tit. A 2+ TRILLION dollar budget buys you ALOT of loyalty.
Belloc's Servile State is here.

www.yaf.com/belloc_state.shtml
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:15:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
That's the rub with democracy, sometimes it's by Mob Rule.


Actually, it is always mob rule. That is one reason our Founding Fathers hated democracy.


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
~ Benjamin Franklin, leader of the American Revolution

"We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy... It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."
~ Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of the Treasury to George Washington, author of the Federalist Papers

"Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
~ John Adams, 2nd President of the United States

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."
~ Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death.
~ James Madison, 4th President of the United States, Father of the Constitution

"The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived."
~ John Quincy Adams, 6th President of the United States

"Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."
~ John Marshall, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, 1801-183

Democracy is the rule of the mob, the rule of the envious, the rule of the underclass. It has never worked and it will never work.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:16:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Belloc:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
A segment of the original Declaration of Indpendence:


That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.



Small problem, when that was written 90% of the public was not sucking on the governments tit. A 2+ TRILLION dollar budget buys you ALOT of loyalty.
Belloc's Servile State is here.

www.yaf.com/belloc_state.shtml



You are correct about that. Distribution and control of wealth has given our socialist gov't great power. That's what it has been all about since they started.

Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:17:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
What color star will they pin to the shirts of gunowners in Illinois?
Good thing you guys lined up and registered like good little Juden.
My mind is made up - I will never register my guns.
If it is state by state, I will move until I have nowhere else to go.
After that...



If you wait until then to fight there will be no one left to fight at your side and defeat will be guaranteed.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:23:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Belloc:

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
That's the rub with democracy, sometimes it's by Mob Rule.


Actually, it is always mob rule. That is one reason our Founding Fathers hated democracy.


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
~ Benjamin Franklin, leader of the American Revolution

"We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy... It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."
~ Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of the Treasury to George Washington, author of the Federalist Papers

"Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
~ John Adams, 2nd President of the United States

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."
~ Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death.
~ James Madison, 4th President of the United States, Father of the Constitution

"The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived."
~ John Quincy Adams, 6th President of the United States

"Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."
~ John Marshall, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, 1801-183

Democracy is the rule of the mob, the rule of the envious, the rule of the underclass. It has never worked and it will never work.



Everyone on this board should be speaking those words to every fool who ever tells them we are a democracy.

nice post.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:28:32 AM EDT
He was a big advocate for gun control too.......



Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:28:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Well, you can take your tax generating, hard working, gun owning ass out of their shitty little state and move to another than doesn't ostracize it's citizens.

That's the rub with democracy, sometimes it's by Mob Rule.



And that is why we DON'T live in a democracy. We live in a Represntative Republic. Big difference, and the left has been pushing the 'democracy' thing for so ling that most people really DO believe that this is a democracy.

I corrected my Ethics teacher on that point.

And if you think that people know the difference, and understand which one you are using, you are wrong.

That is one of those little semantics games that goes a long way to further the left.....

In a democracy it is mob rule/Majority rule. In a representative republic, the rights of the minority are protected from the tyranny of the majority. And until that distinction is understood, we will go further down the drain.....
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:29:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ballisticbill:
Soon they will call it The Peoples Republic of Illinois



We already do that up here in WI.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:34:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Belloc:

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
That's the rub with democracy, sometimes it's by Mob Rule.


Actually, it is always mob rule. That is one reason our Founding Fathers hated democracy.


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
~ Benjamin Franklin, leader of the American Revolution

"We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy... It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."
~ Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of the Treasury to George Washington, author of the Federalist Papers

"Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
~ John Adams, 2nd President of the United States

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."
~ Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death.
~ James Madison, 4th President of the United States, Father of the Constitution

"The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived."
~ John Quincy Adams, 6th President of the United States

"Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."
~ John Marshall, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, 1801-183

Democracy is the rule of the mob, the rule of the envious, the rule of the underclass. It has never worked and it will never work.



Excellent post
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