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Posted: 3/3/2006 11:16:12 AM EDT
I've been doing some homework on a 1911 purchase and part of that would include asking in here for opinions. I have not narrowed down the model yet, but it will be a commander or compact size -single stack, single action (no LDA). Is there any reason to go with one over the other? I think both make SHARP looking pistols, that's for sure. The Kimber of course must have an internal extractor.

I'm leaning towards Kimber right now as their accuracy is scary.

Any thoughts one way or the other?
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:21:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 11:21:56 AM EDT by five2one]

Originally Posted By Sandman67:
I've been doing some homework on a 1911 purchase and part of that would include asking in here for opinions. I have not narrowed down the model yet, but it will be a commander or compact size -single stack, single action (no LDA). Is there any reason to go with one over the other? I think both make SHARP looking pistols, that's for sure. The Kimber of course must have an internal extractor.

I'm leaning towards Kimber right now as their accuracy is scary.

Any thoughts one way or the other?



I have a para and love it. I bought it for the hi-cap model. Otherwise I would have bought a Kimber.

eta: I suppose thats not much help. good luck.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:23:16 AM EDT
If ya want single stack Kimber or Springfeild IMO
I dont like the plastic double stack Kimber though so Para for double stackage
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:23:56 AM EDT
i own a Kimber CDPII. i would highly recommend this pistol to anyone.

I personally would never buy a compact 45. full size or no 1911 for me.


Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:25:22 AM EDT
Out of 12 pistols in my safe, my Kimber TLE/RL is my favorite. People freak out how accurate it is when they shoot it.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:28:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:29:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 11:29:59 AM EDT by Winston_Wolf]
... The Para-Ordnance line is the most underrated pistol on the market. They had some minor problems in the past. As is the case with almost any out-of-the-box 1911, very minor tuning makes them handsome, accurate and reliable platforms.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:31:51 AM EDT

I have a 7/45 LDA and I really like it . Para - Ord is like the Mini-14 of 1911's ,
in that a lot of people bash them even though they never owned one .

Handle and if possible , shoot both . Don't make up your mind based on a poll .
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:35:33 AM EDT
I would never make up my mind based on a poll. This is but a very small piece of the process that I use to try and help make a decision. I understand what you meant though -thanks!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:39:21 AM EDT
Para's quality control is for shit...

If you own one and it works, count yourself lucky.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:40:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 11:41:25 AM EDT by gardenWeasel]
Paras look great...below the glass in the dealer's case and in their full-page glossy ads.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:41:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AcidGambit:
Para's quality control is for shit...

If you own one and it works, count yourself lucky.



... I own four and they all run like sewing machines
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:44:46 AM EDT
I think it depends on you. Do you have larger hands? Are you going to be using it for conceal carry? For me I like the full size Para Ordnance for shooting and the Kimber Ultra Carry for conceal.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:09:27 PM EDT
When it comes to AR's or 1911's I'm an admitted Colt kool aid drinker.

Have you checked out the NRM series 80 Colts? Cheaper than a
Kimber.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:14:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
As is the case with almost any out-of-the-box 1911, very minor tuning makes them handsome, accurate and reliable platforms.


Or...you could buy a Sig and not have to tweak it at all.

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Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:19:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By djohns6:
I have a 7/45 LDA and I really like it . Para - Ord is like the Mini-14 of 1911's ,
in that a lot of people bash them even though they never owned one .

Handle and if possible , shoot both . Don't make up your mind based on a poll .



Same goes for the Kimber with the external extractor. I have one, and have had NO problems with it whatsoever.

That being said, get a Colt, like Ryann says. Or a Sig.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:22:38 PM EDT
Go Colt for a commander size.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:23:08 PM EDT
looks like the kimber is ahead by a little

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:23:35 PM EDT
I love my Kimber Warrior,thats all I have to say

p.s. all 1911 frames have merit in there form/function and those that admire them,,,,,,,nuff said
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:29:11 PM EDT
Rock River!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:30:40 PM EDT
Sig P220


Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:32:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 12:32:39 PM EDT by SHIVAN]

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Rock River = 2 Kimbers



If you can get over this hurdle, then yes RRA 1911 all the way.

I had one and loved it, but I have other that I like just as much. No need for me to have a $1400 1911, even though it was very nice.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:35:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Rock River!



they make a 1911
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:36:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Rock River!



they make a 1911



One of the best, in fact.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:36:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:37:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Rock River!



they make a 1911



Yes they do, and they make one of the best 1911s out there.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:40:42 PM EDT
I like Kimber
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:44:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Rock River!



they make a 1911



Yes they do, and they make one of the best 1911s out there.



Mine shoots 6in groups at 25yrds. Probably better w/out me behind the gun.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:50:44 PM EDT
I have owned both. I used to have a Kimber Gold Match 1 that I still miss to this day. I'll never know why the hell I sold it.
I currently own a tricked out P16 that I shoot IPSC Limited with. Both are/were excellent pistols.

That said, if I were going to get another single stack, it would be a Kimber (or maybe a Springfield Loaded).

CO
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 1:00:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 1:01:22 PM EDT by SHIVAN]

Originally Posted By rpd_fire:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Rock River!



they make a 1911



Yes they do, and they make one of the best 1911s out there.



Mine shoots 6in groups at 25yrds. Probably better w/out me behind the gun.



This was the one I bought w/ its 50yd factory test group:


I sold it because I didn't need a $1400 1911, I got a Kimber and a Glock 19 instead.

Just made a choice of how to use funds more efficiently, I HIGHLY recommend RRA 1911's.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 1:01:01 PM EDT
Caspian
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 1:01:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Rock River!



they make a 1911



Yes they do, and they make one of the best 1911s out there.



just goes to show how familiar i am with RR
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Link Posted: 3/3/2006 1:10:54 PM EDT
Llama
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 1:11:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 7:59:18 PM EDT by Va_Dinger]

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Rock River!



they make a 1911



One of the best, in fact.



I would have to agree 100%.

I would not touch a damn Para.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:32:54 PM EDT
Will the Para double strike,does it have an external hammer that can be cocked again if a last strike doesn't fire a round?

If you have to re-slide to get the pistol to fire again,that might not be good!

I may be thinking of another pistol!


Bob
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:45:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:48:30 PM EDT
check out STI

www.stiguns.com

I voted Kimber.

RRA, and Baer are nice.

Look at Springfield Armory too.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:59:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 8:04:44 PM EDT by FAIL-SAFE]

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
Kimbers attention to detail and execution of their product is excellent. Para's is good, but Kimber's is excellent.



I had the cmplete oposite experience.

I had 4. Lots of rounds fired through, never a failure. 1 was stolen at a hunt, 1 is now my uncles gun, and I sold the other 2 because I am an idiot. Para barrels are exceptionally accurate, and with that integral ramp, it eliminates alot of "1911 are jam-o-matics" worries.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:09:14 PM EDT
Someone brought a LDA to our tactical handgun course.


We all got to try it


The reset is measurably slower, being longer. Nobody liked it. The owner sold it afterwards
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