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Posted: 3/3/2006 10:00:01 AM EDT
Gunmakers: We'll leave state
By Kurt Erickson
kurt.erickson@lee.net
March 02, 2006

SPRINGFIELD -- Several Illinois gun manufacturers said Wednesday they will pack up and leave Illinois if state lawmakers approve a ban on assault weapons.

The threats came as a House panel approved legislation to ban the weapons, even though the proposal’s prospects appear bleak in the Senate following comments earlier this week by Senate President Emil Jones, D-Chicago.

In a press conference before the House Executive Committee’s 9-3 vote in favor the ban, the gun makers said they would pull up stakes and take 750 jobs with them if the ban is OK’d.

"If this passes, we’re out of town," said Dennis Reese, co-owner of Springfield Armory in Geneseo, one of four gun makers located in the Rock River Valley town of 6,400 residents.

"Our only course of action would be moving out of state," added Mark Westrom, president of ArmaLite Inc., another Geneseo gun manufacturer.

The sparring comes after Gov. Rod Blagojevich said in his State of the State speech last month that reinstating the expired federal ban on certain kinds of military-style weapons was one of his top priorities in this spring’s legislative session.

But Jones, in comments earlier in the week, said he doubts the measure will come up for a vote in the Senate because it is too contentious.

Despite its apparently dim prospects, state Rep. Edward Acevedo, D-Chicago, pushed the legislation through the House Executive Committee. The measure could come up for a vote on the House floor this week.

An attempt last year to move the ban through the House failed to receive enough votes.

Gun makers and their state lawmakers argued that they operate legal businesses that are subject to tough state and federal requirements. Westrom said the state should concentrate on catching criminals, rather than on banning guns.

"The arms manufacturers of Illinois and their customers are not the problem," said Westrom.

Along with Springfield Armory and ArmaLite, other companies involved in fighting the ban include Lewis Machine & Tool of Moline, Les Baer Custom Inc. of Hillsdale and Rock River Arms Inc. of Colona.

State lawmakers on both sides of aisle vowed to help block the ban.

"The State of Illinois has almost become an enemy of my district," said state Sen. Mike Jacobs, D-East Moline.

"We will fight this with everything we have," added state Sen. Todd Sieben, R-Geneseo.

The legislation is House Bill 2414.


www.pantagraph.com/articles/2006/03/02/news/doc440716d1465c2131108157.txt
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:02:02 AM EDT
They're more than welcome here.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:02:22 AM EDT
Why are there so many firearms manufacturers in IL?
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:02:50 AM EDT
I think they should come to Louisville.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:03:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rtr:
Why are there so many firearms manufacturers in IL?


Because it wasn't a socialist shithole at one time.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:05:08 AM EDT
Attention- DS Arms

Check out the Huntsville, Alabama area. You'll love it.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:06:57 AM EDT
In addition, they need to refrain from ever again selling any firearm, parts or service to the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:07:33 AM EDT
There are people who are vehemently against guns, and will go to great lenghts to ban them, even if it means your job, not their's, but yours.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:08:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:
In addition, they need to refrain from ever again selling any firearm, parts or service to the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof.

Bingo...by the way, I hate living in Illinois...
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:08:41 AM EDT
"The State of Illinois has almost is an enemy of my district," said state Sen. Mike Jacobs, D-East Moline.

Fixed if for the Senator.

HH
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:10:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:11:30 AM EDT
Slowly but surely firearm manufacturers will be leaving the states like Illinois thathave restrictive gun laws. Why are there so many manufacturers in CT? It makes no sense for Ruger, Colt, etc tobe located in states in that essentially prohibit ownership of these companies products.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:12:03 AM EDT
out-fucking-standing. There's plenty of dignity and honor being shown by these companies.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:12:51 AM EDT
Come to North Dakota. Very gun-friendly and very family-friendly.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:13:30 AM EDT
Why does Illinois allow shitcago to rule their state ?
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:14:12 AM EDT
I'll the manufacturers credit for the stand. In the spirit of Mr. Barrett.


Bomber
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:14:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 10:16:04 AM EDT by Mr-H]
I wish we could stand tall and be proud that our state produces the finest firearms in the world, not pushing for crap bills like HB2414. I wish Chicago would just break off from the rest of this state. Hell, make it its own country and appoint Daley as king for life, and ban all firearms . . . I'm sure it will become a utopia. Just get outta my hair.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:15:11 AM EDT
I wonder if any of those 750 jobs are union?
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:15:20 AM EDT



good for them.

bushmaster did the same for us when some douche-bag proposed the same for the state of maine.


Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:17:57 AM EDT
As if the Cubs and Blackhawks were't enough, yet another reason for me to hate Chicago.
SG
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:19:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Why does Illinois allow shitcago to rule their state ?



Has nothing to do with allow.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:22:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:22:05 AM EDT
Come to Indiana..not that far of a move...
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:22:33 AM EDT
NC would love to have you
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:23:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Why does Illinois allow shitcago to rule their state ?



For the same reason Commifornia allows San BANfrisco and Lost Angeles to dictate their legislation. F*#@ing Liberals!

I FIRMLY believe that if these states want to ban the sale or manufacture of firearms for civilians, the Gun Manufacturers should STOP all sale to any government agency.

If we "The People" can't have them, then neither shall the agencies that govern us. It is hypocrisy at its worst. I love our country, but I am so sick and tired of them systematically and illegally punishing law-abiding citizens.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:24:47 AM EDT
bring them all to florida, Nice and sunny place to put showrooms, and weve got Jeb as gov!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:24:55 AM EDT
My state would love to have them! Hell, I'll even help them find office space for free!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:25:12 AM EDT
If it passes, I was thinking of leaving too. I was looking at Paducha KY, or maybe St. Louis MO suburb.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:27:17 AM EDT
I suggest our members like myself from Missouri email Governor Blunt and suggest opening up the doors for the Illinois manufacturers to come over state line.

http://www.gov.mo.gov/constituentform.htm
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:28:08 AM EDT
Sorry, boys, but Indiana is right next door and we're very gun friendly.
I look forward to their business.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:28:09 AM EDT
Now those flatlanders are more than welcome to come north or the border.

Just don't bring too many of dem gosh darn bruder in laws from illynoise.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:28:33 AM EDT
Texas has plenty of space, lots of avid shooters, great gun laws, and we need the tax base.
Please choose Texas!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:33:07 AM EDT


everybody should call up one of those companies today and order something. even if it's something small, and tell them you are doing it because of their stance against the IL state AWB that's been proposed.


Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:34:26 AM EDT
Gosh, guys . . .
Don't get ahead of yourselves. If they want to move to your state of their own volition, that's their buisness. I have no probelm with that. But it's a crap deal if they HAVE to move because we (in IL) lost some of our essential freedoms. Not a good trade. I mean, I wouldn't wish that upon CT so we might get Colt, or ME so we might get Bushmaster.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:36:25 AM EDT
Makes me proud to own:



It is high time some sentiment like this existed among gun makers. Either they stand together or hang seperately.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:51:57 AM EDT
We will take them all here on the free side of the Ohio River.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:54:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:
In addition, they need to refrain from ever again selling any firearm, parts or service to the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof.



I wonder what would happen if all mfg's did this. No guns for NYPD, CPD, LAPS, SFPD, LASO........ Hmmmmmmm.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:58:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:
In addition, they need to refrain from ever again selling any firearm, parts or service to the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof.



I wonder what would happen if all mfg's did this. No guns for NYPD, CPD, LAPS, SFPD, LASO........ Hmmmmmmm.



too many foreign MFG'ers that don't give 1 and 1/2 shits about "rights" would step in and fill the gaps.


Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:00:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By callgood:
Attention- DS Arms

Check out the Huntsville, Alabama area. You'll love it.



...and I’ll help support your computer network in exchange for an employee discount.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:02:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bullyforyou:

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:
In addition, they need to refrain from ever again selling any firearm, parts or service to the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof.



I wonder what would happen if all mfg's did this. No guns for NYPD, CPD, LAPS, SFPD, LASO........ Hmmmmmmm.



too many foreign MFG'ers that don't give 1 and 1/2 shits about "rights" would step in and fill the gaps.




I agree that they would, but who gives a shit. It would be capitalism at its finest. Funny as hell, too! They need a new slogan: "You ban us, and we'll ban you!"
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:03:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:04:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Why does Illinois allow shitcago to rule their state ?



They have the most people.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:04:42 AM EDT
Y'all come on down to Texas!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:05:30 AM EDT
... Come to famous, sunny "Uzi Triangle", where everyone is addressed by their first name!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:06:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 11:07:34 AM EDT by txgp17]

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:
In addition, they need to refrain from ever again selling any firearm, parts or service to the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof.

Amen

Originally Posted By jmzd4:
NC would love to have you

Yes yes!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:08:54 AM EDT
good on them.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:09:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By txgp17:

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:
In addition, they need to refrain from ever again selling any firearm, parts or service to the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof.

Amen

Originally Posted By jmzd4:
NC would love to have you

Yes yes!



But first we need to get laws on the books prohibiting these same municipalites from buying firearms from outside the United States. Then we stick it to them!!!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:15:20 AM EDT
I think im going to go out and buy a Sprinffeild product in support of them.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:16:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cck:
But first we need to get laws on the books prohibiting these same municipalites from buying firearms from outside the United States. Then we stick it to them!!!

Excellent idea.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:17:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bullyforyou:

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:

Originally Posted By PhilipPeake:
In addition, they need to refrain from ever again selling any firearm, parts or service to the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof.



I wonder what would happen if all mfg's did this. No guns for NYPD, CPD, LAPS, SFPD, LASO........ Hmmmmmmm.



too many foreign MFG'ers that don't give 1 and 1/2 shits about "rights" would step in and fill the gaps.




And Colt.




The reason Barrett made such a splash is because he is the leader in .50s
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:20:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dsg2003gt:
bring them all to florida, Nice and sunny place to put showrooms, and weve got Jeb as gov!



The gunshine state would welcome these guys with open arms. it'd be nice to get an industry here that won't blow away in a hurricane like citrus and tourism does.
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