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Posted: 3/2/2006 4:14:36 AM EDT
w00t!

My first NFA item, an SBR, was approved! It seemed to take forever, but was more like 87 days! No... really

Without further ado...







Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:16:09 AM EDT
Nice!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:17:56 AM EDT
I love gun p0rn

Now where did I put the hand lotion........
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:19:08 AM EDT
Let me guess..............TRUCK GUN ???
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:27:09 AM EDT
I always cry when a new member comes into the family!

Congrats!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:55:21 AM EDT
You BASTARD!@! I really am happy for you though - just a little jealous - congrats!!!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:59:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/2/2006 5:01:55 AM EDT by falaholic1]
Individual or corp xfer?

Now you need a BUIS and a HALO!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:01:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By falaholic1:
Individual or corp xfer?



Individual Form 1
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:02:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
You BASTARD!@! I really am happy for you though - just a little jealous - congrats!!!



Hey! My parents were married!!

Thanks bro!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:02:57 AM EDT
Congrats!!!


Sooo...... What's next? There's always something next in NFA land....
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:05:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gus:
Congrats!!!


Sooo...... What's next? There's always something next in NFA land....



Already ordered a Gemtech Outback from Title II Arms
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:34:01 PM EDT
sweeeeeeeet
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:35:04 PM EDT

Nice!

Originally Posted By nationwide:

Originally Posted By gus:
Congrats!!!


Sooo...... What's next? There's always something next in NFA land....



Already ordered a Gemtech Outback from Title II Arms

Nicer!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:36:37 PM EDT
You can go ahead and name it "The mouse that roared."

Well, if you don't mind naming it the same thing I named mine.

Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:36:48 PM EDT
<-----This is me, being green with envy. Someday.......

Congrats, and fuggin' A man.

CO
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:37:47 PM EDT
Excuse my Aussie ignorance, but what is NFA? Is it full auto or something?

Nice rifle, btw
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:38:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/2/2006 1:38:38 PM EDT by cruze5]
nice rifle SBR you got there.


edited
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:44:03 PM EDT
Is the process for a SBR the same for a class III? I was told that in order to qualify for a class III the .gov takes an inventory of your weapons, audits your storage method, and reserves the right to pop in and audit at will.

I am interested in the criteria and process for gaining a NFA approval for a SBR. Aside from the extra $200 app fee.

Oh, and congrats. That is a very nice rig.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:44:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lert:
Excuse my Aussie ignorance, but what is NFA? Is it full auto or something?


NFA = National Firearms Act - federal taxation and registration system for some kinds of firearms.
Full auto, sound suppressors, short barreled firearms, and "destructive devices" (large bore weapons, explosive, etc) are all covered by the NFA.

SBR = Short Barreled Rifle. A (non full auto) firearm with a rifled barrel shorter than 16" which has a stock, or a firearm made from a rifle which has a barrel less than 16".
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:45:01 PM EDT
What barrel length?
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:46:37 PM EDT
lookin good, give us a spec run down!, is that the RRA DEA MODEL UPPER? or similar?
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:47:27 PM EDT
Awesome! Congratualtions!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:48:47 PM EDT
now you need a NFA lower for it
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:51:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
now you need a NFA lower for it



Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:52:06 PM EDT
GOAT BALLLZ
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:52:20 PM EDT
Dude! I can't believe you took a marker to your SBR form!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:54:57 PM EDT
Fuggin A Man!

Thats Kool!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:56:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sp1shooter:
Dude! I can't believe you took a marker to your SBR form!



shit! that WASN'T the COPY?!?!?!?!111111
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:58:59 PM EDT
You know what would look good with that rifle?

A USC.





I'm moving to the next county as soon as my lease is up!

That'll give me time to save up some money.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:00:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
You know what would look good with that rifle?

A USC.





I'm moving to the next county as soon as my lease is up!

That'll give me time to save up some money.



You mean a UMP clone???

You know... I could get a Bobcat or Speciul Weaponz clone instead. I mean, who wants a genuine Hk???
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:01:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gamma762:

Originally Posted By Lert:
Excuse my Aussie ignorance, but what is NFA? Is it full auto or something?


NFA = National Firearms Act - federal taxation and registration system for some kinds of firearms.
Full auto, sound suppressors, short barreled firearms, and "destructive devices" (large bore weapons, explosive, etc) are all covered by the NFA.

SBR = Short Barreled Rifle. A (non full auto) firearm with a rifled barrel shorter than 16" which has a stock, or a firearm made from a rifle which has a barrel less than 16".



Ah, thanks for that. I know questioning the sense of such laws is futile, but wouldn't a .22 count as a "destructive device"? A hammer? A 2- year old child? If you don't have to register those things, why would it matter if you're shot with a .38 or a .50 BMG? If it kills you, you're just as dead. Frankly, I'd prefer to be hit with a .50 than someone's badly behaved 2-year old child. It's a quicker, less painful death. Oh well, at least you can get semi-auto. We're stuck with bolt-action etc.

Once again, congrats, and nice rifle.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:04:46 PM EDT
Hey I got a bulletin about this on Myspace!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:07:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lert:

Originally Posted By Gamma762:

Originally Posted By Lert:
Excuse my Aussie ignorance, but what is NFA? Is it full auto or something?


NFA = National Firearms Act - federal taxation and registration system for some kinds of firearms.
Full auto, sound suppressors, short barreled firearms, and "destructive devices" (large bore weapons, explosive, etc) are all covered by the NFA.

SBR = Short Barreled Rifle. A (non full auto) firearm with a rifled barrel shorter than 16" which has a stock, or a firearm made from a rifle which has a barrel less than 16".



Ah, thanks for that. I know questioning the sense of such laws is futile, but wouldn't a .22 count as a "destructive device"? A hammer? A 2- year old child? If you don't have to register those things, why would it matter if you're shot with a .38 or a .50 BMG? If it kills you, you're just as dead. Frankly, I'd prefer to be hit with a .50 than someone's badly behaved 2-year old child. It's a quicker, less painful death. Oh well, at least you can get semi-auto. We're stuck with bolt-action etc.

Once again, congrats, and nice rifle.



Not to rub it in but we can get full autos, mortars, machine guns (limited supply) as well.
Semi autos are completly unregulated except in Commie states.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:07:11 PM EDT
Fuggin A, man!!!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:08:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/2/2006 2:11:29 PM EDT by motown_steve]

Originally Posted By nationwide:

You know... I could get a Bobcat or Speciul Weaponz clone instead. I mean, who wants a genuine Hk???



That's what you say now...but do you really want to shoot a zombie with a knock off?

ETA - Congradulations by the way. I am basically sick with envy over here!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:11:08 PM EDT
Congrats on the rifle but why spend $200+ price to remove 1.5 inches of barrel? Why not a 7' or 10' barrel? Seems like $800+ is alot for an inch and a half?
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:16:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:
Congrats on the rifle but why spend $200+ price to remove 1.5 inches of barrel? Why not a 7' or 10' barrel? Seems like $800+ is alot for an inch and a half?



That looks like a 10.5" barrel
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:17:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:
Congrats on the rifle but why spend $200+ price to remove 1.5 inches of barrel? Why not a 7' or 10' barrel? Seems like $800+ is alot for an inch and a half?



1.5" of barrel?

Dude... it's 11.5", and FWIW... most supressor makers won't warranty use on anything shorter.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:18:32 PM EDT
AWESOME!!! Congrats!!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:20:23 PM EDT
Dude you are going to be in so much trouble when they find out you marked out all the important info with a black marker Just think flashbangs, dead dogs and front door off the hinges!!!

Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:20:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By nationwide:

You know... I could get a Bobcat or Speciul Weaponz clone instead. I mean, who wants a genuine Hk???



That's what you say now...but do you really want to shoot a zombie with a knock off?

ETA - Congradulations by the way. I am basically sick with envy over here!



Next time I'm home, we'll go to DFW gun range on moking bird and you can shoot it. I'll see if a buddy wants to go and bring his Mac 10 (with the fun switch )
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:20:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lert:

Originally Posted By Gamma762:

Originally Posted By Lert:
Excuse my Aussie ignorance, but what is NFA? Is it full auto or something?


NFA = National Firearms Act - federal taxation and registration system for some kinds of firearms.
Full auto, sound suppressors, short barreled firearms, and "destructive devices" (large bore weapons, explosive, etc) are all covered by the NFA.

SBR = Short Barreled Rifle. A (non full auto) firearm with a rifled barrel shorter than 16" which has a stock, or a firearm made from a rifle which has a barrel less than 16".



Ah, thanks for that. I know questioning the sense of such laws is futile, but wouldn't a .22 count as a "destructive device"? A hammer? A 2- year old child? If you don't have to register those things, why would it matter if you're shot with a .38 or a .50 BMG? If it kills you, you're just as dead. Frankly, I'd prefer to be hit with a .50 than someone's badly behaved 2-year old child. It's a quicker, less painful death. Oh well, at least you can get semi-auto. We're stuck with bolt-action etc.

Once again, congrats, and nice rifle.



Isn't the movement to demand gun rights back growing in your country? Last I heard it was percieved as just short of a serious shitstorm brewing, truth to this?
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:22:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By nationwide:

Originally Posted By Mattl:
Congrats on the rifle but why spend $200+ price to remove 1.5 inches of barrel? Why not a 7' or 10' barrel? Seems like $800+ is alot for an inch and a half?



1.5" of barrel?

Dude... it's 11.5", and FWIW... most supressor makers won't warranty use on anything shorter.



Seemed longer. I guess I can understand the warranty thing though.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:24:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
now you need a NFA lower for it





Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:27:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/2/2006 2:39:30 PM EDT by triburst1]
Nice weapon.

Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:28:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/2/2006 2:29:15 PM EDT by nationwide]

Originally Posted By toddlerp:
Is the process for a SBR the same for a class III? I was told that in order to qualify for a class III the .gov takes an inventory of your weapons, audits your storage method, and reserves the right to pop in and audit at will.

I am interested in the criteria and process for gaining a NFA approval for a SBR. Aside from the extra $200 app fee.

Oh, and congrats. That is a very nice rig.



An SBR is a Class III firearm.

The process? Simple:

*Find the weapon you want to purchase / build
*Fill out Form 1 to build, Form 4 to purchase
*Obtain CLEO sign off on form (I just mail mine in )
*Subit with 2 copies of your Form, 2 FBI finger print cards, 2 passport photos, citizenship form, and 2 hundred dollars for tax stamp.

Wait a bit...

and VOILA! NFA goodness is yours to enjoy!
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 3:42:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Originally Posted By Lert:

Originally Posted By Gamma762:

Originally Posted By Lert:
Excuse my Aussie ignorance, but what is NFA? Is it full auto or something?


NFA = National Firearms Act - federal taxation and registration system for some kinds of firearms.
Full auto, sound suppressors, short barreled firearms, and "destructive devices" (large bore weapons, explosive, etc) are all covered by the NFA.

SBR = Short Barreled Rifle. A (non full auto) firearm with a rifled barrel shorter than 16" which has a stock, or a firearm made from a rifle which has a barrel less than 16".



Ah, thanks for that. I know questioning the sense of such laws is futile, but wouldn't a .22 count as a "destructive device"? A hammer? A 2- year old child? If you don't have to register those things, why would it matter if you're shot with a .38 or a .50 BMG? If it kills you, you're just as dead. Frankly, I'd prefer to be hit with a .50 than someone's badly behaved 2-year old child. It's a quicker, less painful death. Oh well, at least you can get semi-auto. We're stuck with bolt-action etc.

Once again, congrats, and nice rifle.



Isn't the movement to demand gun rights back growing in your country? Last I heard it was percieved as just short of a serious shitstorm brewing, truth to this?



I'm not sure what you mean. There was an issue a little while back when one of the state govt. firearms bodies, in cahoots with a firearms organsiation, set up a club that made it easier to get multiple licences. The antis got wind of it and made a huge fuss, but didn't get any momentum. Also, there are a lot of studies coming out now that show that the gun laws put in after 1996 have had no visible effect on curbing the crime rate. In fact, whilst murder has been dropping for a couple of decades, violent crime has been growing rapidly since '96. Of course, the antis and some state govts have said that this means that the laws need to be tightened, but nothing is actually happening that I know of. There is an agreement between the states and the federal govt that mandates uniform gun laws, and whilst Howard is still Prime Minister (very conservative, but rabidly anti-gun), I don't think anything's going to change. The stricter gun laws have hurt the state governments as they have lost revenue from licencing fees etc. even though legal gun ownership is on the rise. Now on average 1 in 11 adult Australians own guns. If the trend continues, we may just get that shitstorm, the sooner the better.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 3:47:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By nationwide:

Originally Posted By toddlerp:
Is the process for a SBR the same for a class III? I was told that in order to qualify for a class III the .gov takes an inventory of your weapons, audits your storage method, and reserves the right to pop in and audit at will.

I am interested in the criteria and process for gaining a NFA approval for a SBR. Aside from the extra $200 app fee.

Oh, and congrats. That is a very nice rig.



An SBR is a Class III firearm.

The process? Simple:

*Find the weapon you want to purchase / build
*Fill out Form 1 to build, Form 4 to purchase
*Obtain CLEO sign off on form (I just mail mine in )
*Subit with 2 copies of your Form, 2 FBI finger print cards, 2 passport photos, citizenship form, and 2 hundred dollars for tax stamp.

Wait a bit...

and VOILA! NFA goodness is yours to enjoy!



I thought it was a Title II firearm?
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 3:52:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
now you need a NFA lower for it



The lower already is an NFA item, now that it's classified as an SBR.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 3:55:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By falaholic1:

Originally Posted By nationwide:

Originally Posted By toddlerp:
Is the process for a SBR the same for a class III? I was told that in order to qualify for a class III the .gov takes an inventory of your weapons, audits your storage method, and reserves the right to pop in and audit at will.

I am interested in the criteria and process for gaining a NFA approval for a SBR. Aside from the extra $200 app fee.

Oh, and congrats. That is a very nice rig.



An SBR is a Class III firearm.

The process? Simple:

*Find the weapon you want to purchase / build
*Fill out Form 1 to build, Form 4 to purchase
*Obtain CLEO sign off on form (I just mail mine in )
*Subit with 2 copies of your Form, 2 FBI finger print cards, 2 passport photos, citizenship form, and 2 hundred dollars for tax stamp.

Wait a bit...

and VOILA! NFA goodness is yours to enjoy!



I thought it was a Title II firearm?



It's both.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 3:56:09 PM EDT
Fuggin A, man!!!
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