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Link Posted: 3/2/2006 3:31:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/2/2006 3:41:35 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I would qualify under both as an Oregonian and an LEO. I won't lift a ass cheek to cut a fart to help ya but your story does sound familiar. Would you by chance be the computer programmer who was arrested yesterday in the metro area when he went to have sex with what he thought was a 12 year old girl he met on MYSPACE.COM. If that is you then you posted bail and your laptop and camcorder were seized from your vehicle.




 Paging Mr Computerguy!   Mr Computerguy, you're table is ready at window #2.  

Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:35:33 PM EDT
[#3]
This could get good.  Time to get some popcorn.  If true,  we need a ban.  
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:43:23 PM EDT
[#4]
Tag
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 6:01:43 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
He's not going to reveal the 'questionable' items, is he?

What's the Arfcom rule as to when we start guessing what they found?


I'm guessing scales and baggies, maybe a pipe or two.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 6:40:20 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would qualify under both as an Oregonian and an LEO. I won't lift a ass cheek to cut a fart to help ya but your story does sound familiar. Would you by chance be the computer programmer who was arrested yesterday in the metro area when he went to have sex with what he thought was a 12 year old girl he met on MYSPACE.COM. If that is you then you posted bail and your laptop and camcorder were seized from your vehicle.



Hello?  Mr. ComputerGuy?  Can we get a denial please?  Hello?  Hello?



Read the details in his first post and it's plain to see that they don't match up.


Last week I was stopped. I received a ticket and a reciept for some items the Officers found "questionable."




This evening I was stopped in the same vehicle again. I was stopped for not signaling within 100 feet of a stop sign.


The items were seized last week.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:48:49 AM EDT
[#7]
Got an Email back.  My buddy thought all this was highly entertaining.  You are possibly one of two people.

Guy caught masturbating in a public park. Ticketed for whatever Oregon's version of public lewdness is, plus violation of park curfew, and a large collection of child photos in underwear or on the toilet seized. (Actual Polaroids. Not clippings) registered sex offender.

Guy found parked in the emergency room drive thru.  (Was wanting pain meds for a old back injury)  Ticketed for blocking emergency vehicles.  Had a back seat full of printers still in the original boxes.  He claimed he did not know where they came from and that they were not his. Seized as abandoned property.

This is fun.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:54:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:00:11 AM EDT
[#9]
tag
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:03:05 AM EDT
[#10]
No, your cars are not Flagged with info about prior traffic stops.

Also the prior stop does not guive PC to search. If I stop you 99 times and find meth everytime it doesnt mean i have PC to search the next time i stop you.  However, if the questionable items were weapons, it may justify a terry frisk.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:04:29 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

If things are slow, is it common for a second Officer to stop and assist a traffic stop if they just see another LEO pull a car over?



Yes, and its SOP at night.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:08:54 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I'm sure if the items in question were illegal, drugs,etc. he would have been arrested and not just given tickets.



Not always.  If its a misdemeanor violation he can be cited and released at the scene.  If its a felony, but for some reason the officer doesnt want to book for the offense, he can collect the evidence and submit a report to the DA for reveiw. Thats common with juveniles and those with medical problems or other issues (6 kids and two dogs in the car) that make a trip to jail complicated.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:10:48 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

If things are slow, is it common for a second Officer to stop and assist a traffic stop if they just see another LEO pull a car over?




Depending on what part of town you are in, you're likely to get more than two cars.  No matter what time of day, dept policy is to send a back-up to any traffic/investigative stop unless called off by the initiating ofc.



BC
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:11:39 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
He's not going to reveal the 'questionable' items, is he?

What's the Arfcom rule as to when we start guessing what they found?


I'm guessing scales and baggies, maybe a pipe or two.



The problem with that is,  He got a receipt.  I've never heard of anyone handing out receipts for contraband.  It's not like they are going to give his crack pipe back.

I'm leaning towards the possible stolen property theory or kiddie porn myself.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:15:07 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would qualify under both as an Oregonian and an LEO. I won't lift a ass cheek to cut a fart to help ya but your story does sound familiar. Would you by chance be the computer programmer who was arrested yesterday in the metro area when he went to have sex with what he thought was a 12 year old girl he met on MYSPACE.COM. If that is you then you posted bail and your laptop and camcorder were seized from your vehicle.


Thats funny There every where in Oregon though......lots of sickos



Naw.  We have more than you do.  The ones that stay in OR just are in such bad shape they can't hitch down here to better weather.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:16:03 AM EDT
[#16]
Let us know how the lab test on those questionable items comes back.  
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:17:54 AM EDT
[#17]
I just talked to computer guy on the phone. Turns out he may be in deep shit. He had a Backstreet boys CD and it was playing!!!!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:22:01 AM EDT
[#18]

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I just talked to computer guy on the phone. Turns out he may be in deep shit. He had a Backstreet boys CD and it was playing!!!!



STONE HIM!!!!!

By the way, speaking as an officer, I can't see how they would have probable cause to take any items from your vehicle unless they were evidence of illegal activity. Examples: Crack pipe, bong, container of  anhydrous ammonia, child porn, etc. However, If I recovered obvious child porn from a vehicle and its registered owner was in it, they would be headed for the graybar hotel chop chop.  The fact that you were stopped soon after on a very minor stopping charge tells me that your face and vehicle may have been discussed at roll call for a good reason.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:22:24 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I would qualify under both as an Oregonian and an LEO. I won't lift a ass cheek to cut a fart to help ya but your story does sound familiar. Would you by chance be the computer programmer who was arrested yesterday in the metro area when he went to have sex with what he thought was a 12 year old girl he met on MYSPACE.COM. If that is you then you posted bail and your laptop and camcorder were seized from your vehicle.




www.katu.com/stories/83774.html


Portland man arrested in MySpace.com sting

March 1, 2006

- By Debora Knapp
and KATU.com Web Staff
PORTLAND, Ore. - Police say a 12-year-old girl with a profile on the popular Web site MySpace.com has been instrumental in apprehending a man who solicited her for sexual reasons.

Police say Jeramie Eidem, 26, was well aware that the girl was only 12 years old when he arranged to meet her in Vancouver.

But Eidem only met sheriffs deputies at the arranged time and place, and is now under arrest on attempted rape charges.

Officers also seized his home computer for evidence.

Investigators say the girl informed her parents that she had been solicited online through her MySpace page, and her parents in turn contacted Washington authorities.

The girl and her parents worked with deputies to arrange the meeting and make the arrest.

Jeff Green, a detective with Clackamas County's Child Abuse Team, says MySpace.com and other online sites where teens gather are also popular with pedophiles and child predators.

The girl who assisted police is actually younger than MySpace.com regulations allow to have a page on the site. The minimum age is listed as 14 and users need to have parental permission to sign up.

Police say that despite the girl being younger than regulations stipulate, she did the right thing by informing her parents she had been contacted by Eidem.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:29:10 AM EDT
[#20]
Oh, I'm SOOOOO tagging this now.

Your lawyer doesn't know shit. We are all you need. Talk to us. We can help.

Tell me about your mother.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:30:18 AM EDT
[#21]
They have a purdy picture of you at that link also
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:31:33 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
The problem with that is,  He got a receipt.  I've never heard of anyone handing out receipts for contraband.  It's not like they are going to give his crack pipe back.he


Never.  It's either evidence, or it's not.  You don't get a receipt for evidence.  You can get a copy of the property sheet through your attorney though.

Unless there is some kind of safe-keeping issue along with a court order.  That's the only way we'd issue a receipt.

Oh...and we did get sued over bongs.  Specifically, 500 or so that were siezed from a "head shop".  Sadly, we'd already done the bag & hammer routine on them.


BC
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:50:51 AM EDT
[#23]
Or maybe they found a briefcase full of $.

I'm wondering, if he has enough sense to not talk about "it", why post the question in the first place?

Starting to smell...like it came out from under a bridge...
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:57:20 AM EDT
[#24]

Or maybe.....Computerguy is in jail!
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:18:33 AM EDT
[#25]
This thread just goes to demonstrate the all-seeing power of ARFcom.

Details...details...
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:21:54 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
He's not going to reveal the 'questionable' items, is he?

What's the Arfcom rule as to when we start guessing what they found?



Was it hookers and blow?
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:24:27 AM EDT
[#27]
But seriously... that article doesn't match up with the original post.  But the long silence from computerguy does make you think.  Could the original post be a little fictitious to just find out if he'd be stopped in his other car?  Most people would have posted asap saying "hell no - you're way off!" or " try again".... something.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for a little while longer.






Okay -that's long enough.

CR
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:45:29 AM EDT
[#28]
This thread is definitely not going the way you intended it to.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 7:48:09 AM EDT
[#29]
Wow......this thread was highly entertaining, but I do not see computerguy coming back any time soon since he was branded as a Kiddy Fiddler.

Sucks to be him, should have given more details when he had the chance, or kept certain parts of his life out of a public forum.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:01:58 AM EDT
[#30]
This is a great thread.

If he's not the kiddy pervo and the original story is the truth, I'll wager the "questionable items" were newly purchased bong/pipe/etc from a local head shop, and the cops keep nailing him hoping to find him with a big old bag of weed in his car.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:16:46 AM EDT
[#31]
tag
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:19:05 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
This is a great thread.

If he's not the kiddy pervo and the original story is the truth, I'll wager the "questionable items" were newly purchased bong/pipe/etc from a local head shop, and the cops keep nailing him hoping to find him with a big old bag of weed in his car.



The problem with your scenario is that it's just not unusual or major enough  So what if the kid had a bong? (Especially in Oregon.)  We find people with contraband all the time, no big deal.  We also don't issue receipts for it. (You don't get it back)  It's a waste of time to keep track of druggies,  they'll always make their presence known in other ways.

It has to be two things. Enough of a major/unusual event to stick in an officer's mind after a week of stupid people, (kiddie raper) or it has to be  risky/psycho enough to ring alarm bells and have him immediately warn the officer on the second stop.  (Possibly violent nutcase or major felony.)
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:26:57 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
The problem with your scenario is that it's just not unusual or major enough  So what if the kid had a bong? (Especially in Oregon.)  We find people with contraband all the time, no big deal.  We also don't issue receipts for it. (You don't get it back)  It's a waste of time to keep track of druggies,  they'll always make their presence known in other ways.



Oh, I see.  I misread -- I thought he was caught with contraband + a receipt for contraband, like from the head shop cash register.

Yeah, I don't know what to make of the "receipt" he was given.  I'll defer to your judgement

ETA: How about the scenario like mine, only "meth making" ingredients?  Boxes of apparently shoplifted sudafed, etc?

If he really is the myspace kiddy pervo, his post is one of the greatest arfcom self-ownings in a while.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:38:42 AM EDT
[#34]
OK - this is like a bad Jerry Springer show and despite my better judgment I can't turn away....


Tag.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:43:22 AM EDT
[#35]
tagasorous
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:44:22 AM EDT
[#36]
Also, I believe Comp Guy lives in the Bend, OR area which is quite a distance away from Portland.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:20:20 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The problem with your scenario is that it's just not unusual or major enough  So what if the kid had a bong? (Especially in Oregon.)  We find people with contraband all the time, no big deal.  We also don't issue receipts for it. (You don't get it back)  It's a waste of time to keep track of druggies,  they'll always make their presence known in other ways.



Oh, I see.  I misread -- I thought he was caught with contraband + a receipt for contraband, like from the head shop cash register.

Yeah, I don't know what to make of the "receipt" he was given.  I'll defer to your judgement

ETA: How about the scenario like mine, only "meth making" ingredients?  Boxes of apparently shoplifted sudafed, etc?

If he really is the myspace kiddy pervo, his post is one of the greatest arfcom self-ownings in a while.



The reasons officers will seize things are pretty much are universal.  

1.  The item itself is illegal.  Crack cocaine for example.  I don't see a ticket or a receipt for this.

2. The item is legal in itself, but his possession is illegal.  A 16-year-old with beer is a good one. He'd get a ticket , no receipt.

3.  The item is legal, but is suspicious.  Bloody clothing in the back of the car without a good explanation,  pictures that don't QUITE cross the line into kiddie porn, or something like a camera camoflaged in a bag for taking pics up women's skirts. Seized for evidence preservation and determination later.  He'd get a receipt, no ticket.  Your Sudafed example would fit in here.

4.  The item is legal, but possession is disavowed.  All these guys claiming "It's not my pants man".
 Taken for safekeeping and the rightful owner.  No receipt, no ticket.

Now, I'm betting on  #3. If it was #4 he would have told us what it was.

 
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:54:08 AM EDT
[#38]
Jesus christ guys, you take everything to the extreme

They DID NOT FIND ANY KIDDIE PORN, METH, BONGS, ETC ETC.

I am on AR15.com because I like guns. Put two and two together and now see if you can guess what they took. Yes, I have a RECIEPT.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:01:48 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Jesus christ guys, you take everything to the extreme

They DID NOT FIND ANY KIDDIE PORN, METH, BONGS, ETC ETC.

I am on AR15.com because I like guns. Put two and two together and now see if you can guess what they took. Yes, I have a RECIEPT.



Bullshit.  If they had taken a gun from you your first post would have practically been screaming it.    Not after three pages of cutesy "I can't tell" nonsense.

What gun law did you violate?  There are only three reasons an officer would have taken a gun from you.

Illegal activity.
Suspicious activity.  (were you suicidal?)
Did not claim the gun as yours.

Your explanation does not fit the rest of your story either.

Fess up.  This is another "Computer Guy Fantasy" isn't it?
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:15:49 AM EDT
[#40]


Holy Crap that is him!!!

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:19:55 AM EDT
[#41]
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:35:45 AM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
Jesus christ guys, you take everything to the extreme

They DID NOT FIND ANY KIDDIE PORN, METH, BONGS, ETC ETC.

I am on AR15.com because I like guns. Put two and two together and now see if you can guess what they took. Yes, I have a RECIEPT.



Come on guys - Computerguy has been around a long while.  Cut him some slack.

CG - why dont you tell us what *really* happened?  It would cut out all the mischeviousness based on mystery.  You HAD to know from all your early nutty threads on arfcom that this would happen?  
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:40:07 AM EDT
[#43]

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Guy found parked in the emergency room drive thru.  (Was wanting pain meds for a old back injury)  Ticketed for blocking emergency vehicles.  Had a back seat full of printers still in the original boxes.  He claimed he did not know where they came from and that they were not his. Seized as abandoned property.





CG's back injury and medication discussion:

archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=421533

and

Truck gun discussion:

archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=175756

and

Admitting he is into goat porn:

www.magazine-specialties.com/



Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:46:24 AM EDT
[#44]
tag
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:51:32 AM EDT
[#45]


Might as well fess up to the whole thing now, CG.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:53:16 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Jesus christ guys, you take everything to the extreme

They DID NOT FIND ANY KIDDIE PORN, METH, BONGS, ETC ETC.

I am on AR15.com because I like guns. Put two and two together and now see if you can guess what they took. Yes, I have a RECIEPT.



Someone needs to post the O RLY owl.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:59:19 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Jesus christ guys, you take everything to the extreme

They DID NOT FIND ANY KIDDIE PORN, METH, BONGS, ETC ETC.

I am on AR15.com because I like guns. Put two and two together and now see if you can guess what they took. Yes, I have a RECIEPT.



Bullshit.  If they had taken a gun from you your first post would have practically been screaming it.    Not after three pages of cutesy "I can't tell" nonsense.

What gun law did you violate?  There are only three reasons an officer would have taken a gun from you.

Illegal activity.
Suspicious activity.  (were you suicidal?)
Did not claim the gun as yours.



There are a few others.

The gun was found at the location of a domestic violence incident and seized for 72 hour hold.

The person in possession of the guns was found in a condition that he was unable to care for himself, or a danger to himself or others so the gun was seized for a 72 hour hold.

The gun was stolen, or evidence in another crime that the person in possession of the gun was unaware of.

The gun appeared to be illegal (Select fire/SBR/AOW) but the officer lacked the expertise to confirm that so he seized the weapon for forensic examination by a firearms specialist.

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:01:59 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
This thread is useless without knowing what "questionable items" are.



If they were NAMBLA magazines you are probably on a list somewhere.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:10:25 AM EDT
[#49]
I posted this thread because I wanted to know if my other car would be a target to be pulled over. THAT IS ALL.

I have said almost nothing and what was supposed to be a short simple thread has turned into 4 pages of garbage. Don't ASSume anything. I'm sorry I came on here and asked some simple advice. My attorney has specifically said not to go into details, so gee, I wonder why I am not telling the entire world what happened.

Haven't any of you thought that maybe what I had with me wasnt illegal, but perhaps the things in question were siezed illegally?

I have been on this site for 4 or 5 years. After reading this trash it makes me not want to come back.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:13:15 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
I posted this thread because I wanted to know if my other car would be a target to be pulled over. THAT IS ALL.

I have said almost nothing and what was supposed to be a short simple thread has turned into 4 pages of garbage. Don't ASSume anything. I'm sorry I came on here and asked some simple advice. My attorney has specifically said not to go into details, so gee, I wonder why I am not telling the entire world what happened.

Haven't any of you thought that maybe what I had with me wasnt illegal, but perhaps the things in question were siezed illegally?

I have been on this site for 4 or 5 years. After reading this trash it makes me not want to come back.

Door's that way

------------------------------------->


Seriously, you can't come in here and give us the information that you have and expect nothing coming back. Some of these people are professional bullshit-finders, and their meters are going nuts, so...
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