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Posted: 3/1/2006 7:49:33 AM EDT
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Fine young man, that one.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 7:53:04 AM EDT
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How stupid can this guy be??? He must love prison.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 7:57:27 AM EDT
[#3]
Enjoy the rest of your life.....in jail.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 7:58:31 AM EDT
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He never should have been released in the first place.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:00:49 AM EDT
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Well, there is the whole concept that prison socializes people to become criminals. Putting a young man, in his early teens, into a prison-like environment with sexually abusive peers and adults does wonders for your psyche. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:01:55 AM EDT
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And his Mom is a Broward Sheriffs Deputy. The gun used to rob Mr. Pizza Guy was stolen from her.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:02:41 AM EDT
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"the 1999 killing of a young girl", um isn't it only 2006? How'd this POS get out in the first place?
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:03:41 AM EDT
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+1 there.. Back where he belongs. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:03:41 AM EDT
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Technicality I believe. He wasn't given a psychological exam prior to his trial and conviction. Thats what I recall. here it is from the article in the original post. Murder conviction thrown out He was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in 2001. Three years later, an appeals tossed out the conviction and sentence. The court ruled that it wasn't clear Tate understood what was happening to him. He then pleaded guilty to second-degree murder as part of a deal with prosecutors and was sentenced to 10 years' probation. Lazarus added five more years to the probation term after Tate was arrested in September 2004 for carrying a knife with a four-inch blade. The judge warned Tate then that he had "zero tolerance" for future violations. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:04:00 AM EDT
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Because he killed the girl on accident while "rough housing" with the girl. Stupid, yes, but it seems like it was indeed an accident. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:04:23 AM EDT
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The only problem with that suggestion is he was ALREADY a world class piece of shit BEFORE he went into jail the first time for killing a little girl when trying out a "wrestling move" on her. We simply put him in the best environment for his particular mentality. Criminals are criminals BEFORE we put them in jail. It's not like we are sticking college grads in jail for fun and MAKING them into criminals. 
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:06:40 AM EDT
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Well, the guy that dragged a black guy along a back Texas road was actually a decent, non-racist person before he got sent to prison to be raped by black men named "bubba". EDIT: for a drug charge no less, IIRC. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:08:15 AM EDT
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Well I live in Broward County and actually know a bit about this one. He wasn't "rough housing" he was attempting to duplicate a wrestling move on a little fucking girl and the assbag did it with sufficient force and effort to actually KILL HER. Perhaps if some "ghetto kid" pile drived your little daughter to death and then said "Oops...my bad" you'd have a more realistic understanding of the situation. While it wasn't premeditated murder, it wasn't a simple accident either. You don't use sufficient force to "kill" by accident. This kid was bad news then, he's bad news now. He is in the correct place. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:08:26 AM EDT
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Hijackingmy own thread: This reminds me of that other case that happend about the same time as Tate's that involved a minor using a rifle with a broken off stock to kill someone at a distance of 100 yards or so. It was a hell of a shot if I recall. Does anyone remember who that kid was? |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:08:47 AM EDT
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"It was all a misunderstanding. He was such a good boy. He liked puppies, he doodled with craft paper, and was an altar boy."
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:10:23 AM EDT
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I agree that the kid was stupid; but when I was younger, my friends and I used to spar and knock the royal shit out of eachother all the time, sometimes almost breaking eachothers necks in grapples. So it isn't exactly hard to see accidently killing someone smaller than you if you don't know your own strength. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:12:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:13:13 AM EDT
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No...he wasn't. You seem to equate "not convicted" with "not guilty" which makes you not terribly intelligent. If I kill nine fucking people but nobody knows it was me...am I a serial killer? Shawn Allen Berry and John William King WERE racists which is WHY they dragged James Byurd to death. They didn't just graduate from college and say "Hey what do you wanna do today? Drag a black guy? Sure ok." While they may not have been guilty of a crime prior to that date, they were killers with the capacity to kill. Of course I could be wrong, maybe the whole thing was just a prank that got out of hand. Maybe they were just rough housing and having fun with Byrd and it just went bad.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:14:18 AM EDT
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Isn't that the kid that was practicing professional wrestling moves on the little girl and killed her?
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:16:36 AM EDT
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See picture Page 2. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=441485&page=2 I am 100% certain I sparred harder than you. I am also 100% certain I would not have "accidentally" killed one of my freinds. If you were not sure you could fuck around with your friends and NOT kill them then you were a fucking retard, I'm sorry. Here's to hoping YOUR CHILDREN won't associate with anyone as fucked up as that. Also this was NOT one of his roughneck buddies he was fucking around with, this was a little girl who was NOT a active or happy participant. It was NOT mutual rough housing and horseplay, he was trying out a "move" on the nearest suitable victim. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:18:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Dang, what a shame!! He seemed like he was really trying to get his life together too.
 
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:21:36 AM EDT
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Just because you kill, doesn't mean that you were a killer before that act. Every human being has the capacity to kill, but most of us have too much materialism/spiritualism to give into our homicidal fantasies. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:22:40 AM EDT
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Well, usually we sparred smart: no head/throat/neck hits. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:23:10 AM EDT
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<--------- Big Pro Wrestling fan growing up and, we routinely did some crazy-dangerous stuff to each other, but, never killed each other. My kids are fans now, and, they haven't killed each other yet. Off topic----I guess this kinda casts some light on the whole issue of pro wrestling being "Real". No, it's not a competition, but, it's dangerous as hell. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:27:04 AM EDT
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You can't be this stupid. It is NOT fear of jail or losing my stuff that keeps me from killing people I don't like. it is the fact that I understand it is WRONG. And if materialism/spiritualism is ALL that is keeping your from killing people than you should be under close observation. My point was guys like Jeffery Dahmer and King were "killers" prior to their first kill. It was already in them. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:29:02 AM EDT
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Don't be so quick to judge. 
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:29:03 AM EDT
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Apparantly not if you weren't sure you wouldn't kill someone. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:33:42 AM EDT
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1. Without knowing you I am reasonably certain that you (when you were a kid) and your kids were like us in that despite all our efforts we KNEW we weren't gonna take anyones life. 2. Two kids of equal size wrestling is NOT the same as a roughneck like Tate "trying out moves" on a six year old little girl. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:35:38 AM EDT
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Aww, come on...there's nothing wrong with that young man....
that a .45 to the back of the head wouldn't take care of!!!!!! 
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:54:09 AM EDT
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I'm just glad that abomination got nailed before he killed some other innocent soul. I hope that judge gives him the full 30 years. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:56:02 AM EDT
[#31]
I couldn't agree more. He's a total POS. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 8:57:18 AM EDT
[#32]
GOOD!
they never should have let this worthless little prick out in the first place. Now we see why early release is a BAD idea. this scuz bag should be given a special seat on a magic chair if you get what i'm saying |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:04:08 AM EDT
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Oh yeah. I'm on your side of the arguement completely. My phraseing seems to be really off today. I meant to express that though the moves are inherently dangerous, we, even as kiddos, knew that you couldn't really drop somone on thier head, or they would be hurt badly. "Trying out" wrestling moves and useing as an excues in killing someone is a total BS argument. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:21:54 AM EDT
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As I said, spiritualism/materialism/moralism is all that prevents us from killing. Killing is a very human trait, and something that we find ways of doing that fit our moral background(e.g. war).
I know enough to know that you can never be sure you are not going to kill someone in a fight; accidents happen, people slip up, drive themselves into a punch,etc. an ill-taken blow to the head can break one's neck, a punch to the gut can cause internal bleeding,etc. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:24:36 AM EDT
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Look at the size of the POS in the photo...  Unless he went through a major growth spurt in 7 years, he was probably fairly big for a 12 year old at the time of the "accident". At the very least, he was much bigger than a 6 year old girl. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:27:14 AM EDT
[#36]
He was a lard butt before he went to prison.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:28:21 AM EDT
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Just shoot him already and be done with it.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:39:57 AM EDT
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Some people are born as a “Bad Seed”. Those people shouldn’t be given unlimited chances at freedom.
Everyone makes mistakes. Minor, non-violent crimes should be a first time free ride. Murder shouldn’t be free ride first crime. How many violent crimes has Lionel Tate done and not been caught for? _________________________________  |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:45:55 AM EDT
[#39]
Well now you added "moralism" which is akin to civilized. And with that addition you now cover MOST people. Basically we understand "we" don't wish to be killed for no reason, so we don't kill without reason. I am not an inarticulate proto human who kills because he fears the moon. And it isn't the risk of my comfy lifesttle that keeps me from killing. It is a reasoned "understanding" that I don't want to be killed indiscriminately. It is quite frightening that this seems to be a somewhat foreign concept for you. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:48:06 AM EDT
[#40]
Honestly if Tate and the girl were playing on the roof and he "accidentally" bumped her off and she died I'd have NO PROBLEM agreeing that is was an HONEST and TERRIBLE mistake. Stupid yes, but that is kids in general. But that very much is NOT what happened. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 9:53:59 AM EDT
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The extent of the injuries to the young girl who was killed when she was 6 years old were so extensive I find it hard to believe it was an accident. Tate was rough housing with a 6 year old and he crushed her skull, broke her arms, broke several of her ribs and was beating on her so violently that somehow the little girls liver was torn loose shredded and pushed thru her rib cage. I got the details in my juvenile delinquency text book. One of those injuies could be considered possibly accidental but all of them???? He beat that little girl to death . When we did the excersice about him in class I said I'd give him the death penalty. I cant wait til thursday to share this news with the class.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 10:02:24 AM EDT
[#42]
FUCK HIM let him rot.
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Posted: 3/1/2006 10:23:00 AM EDT
[#43]
C'mon now...Boys will be boys after all. A little anger management and he'd be right as rain. If you put him in jail he will become dangerous and might just hurt someone when he gets out. |
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Posted: 3/1/2006 10:35:29 AM EDT
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I may be wrong, but isn't this the kid that Rosie (teh cow) O'Donnell campaigned for?? Claiming he was too young to be responsible for his actions?? I guess he's old enough now....  
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