Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login
Posted: 2/28/2006 10:13:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 10:16:45 PM EDT by PeteCO]
Wow. I thought this was supposed to be fixed? Assholes.

I only have 8 tabs open, by the way.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 10:19:14 PM EDT
Have you downloaded anything this session / do you have the download manager running when you do that? That's supposed to be a big source of problems.

I'm running it with just 3 tabs, but I have the noscript extension running, and it's only using 40,000 K
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 10:22:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 10:34:58 PM EDT by PeteCO]

Originally Posted By bastiat:
Have you downloaded anything this session / do you have the download manager running when you do that? That's supposed to be a big source of problems.

I'm running it with just 3 tabs, but I have the noscript extension running, and it's only using 40,000 K



No, I haven't downloaded a thing today, and I rebooted this AM after installing the .NET 2.0 SDK.

I do usually wind up with up to 30 tabs open briefly during my day, but the damn thing ought to free up that memory when I close the tabs. Crazy.

Now that I have tabs in IE, I am seriously considering shitcanning Firefox. Having to shut down and re-open your browser at least once a day is colossaly fucking stupid. If I could figure out a way to open a new tab upon clicking the scroll wheel I'd do it.

According to the developers, the problem is that when you close a tab, the cached images are never fucking freed. It's a core design problem they've been avoiding for a while now, but I was led to believe that version 1.5.x.x fixed it. If you are like me, opening dozens of forum and other site links, then combing through them and closing them, you wind up using half a gig of RAM in a few hours.

Time to go check out Opera or something.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 10:30:46 PM EDT
I have four different windows open on three different desktops... using 45 meg.

*shrug* I've only had it open for about five hours though.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 10:35:13 PM EDT
But Firefox is so much better than IE!!!

More like trendy shit-ware.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 10:43:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 10:46:09 PM EDT by CastorTroy]
type "about:config" in the address bar, and then right click and go to new-->integer

call this integer "browser.cache.memory.capacity" and give it a value of 65536. This will give firefox a maximum amount of memory of 64mb. if you want a different value, just take 1024 times the amount of megabytes RAM you want firefox to use, and use that for the value.

*edit*

the reason firefox uses so much ram is not a memory leak. by default, firefox stores something like the previous 32 pages you have been to in each tab. so, you have 8 tabs open, thats 256 pages, with images intact, in your memory. no memory leak, just a feature that was setup improperly :P
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 10:44:58 PM EDT
Ive found it has little to do with the number of tabs open. Its how many sites you have gone to during the session - and how big the stuff you have downloaded is (pics, audio, movies, etc). Its a cache issue - from what I understand. You need to shut her down every so often. I usually do around 300mb. That should dump it out.

Even with the bug, I will never go back to IE. Even when I had 1/2 as much RAM, it was easier to use shut down firefox once a day than use IE.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 10:56:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
type "about:config" in the address bar, and then right click and go to new-->integer

call this integer "browser.cache.memory.capacity" and give it a value of 65536. This will give firefox a maximum amount of memory of 64mb. if you want a different value, just take 1024 times the amount of megabytes RAM you want firefox to use, and use that for the value.

*edit*

the reason firefox uses so much ram is not a memory leak. by default, firefox stores something like the previous 32 pages you have been to in each tab. so, you have 8 tabs open, thats 256 pages, with images intact, in your memory. no memory leak, just a feature that was setup improperly :P



Nope. I've tried that, along with the various other tweaks, like trimming the working set on a minimize and max total viewers for fast back/forward. I think there was another one on caching chrome (form controls).

I'm going to go back through my list of Firefox hacks and make sure all that stuff is tuned up right. This is a fairly new install so I need to double check.

And I usually have between 18-35 tabs open, so yeah, we are talking a shitload of RAM use. Try having Visual Studio, Media Player, Outlook, MS Project, and Firefox open all at the same time. 2GB memory use is not uncommon at all.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:56:55 AM EDT


Mine's bigger than yours.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:30:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mattja:
i1.tinypic.com/oifvwx.jpg

Mine's bigger than yours.



You win.

What version of SQL are you running? I have been toying with 2005 and it seems pretty sweet. Still digging into the XML stuff.


Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:36:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Nope. I've tried that, along with the various other tweaks, like trimming the working set on a minimize and max total viewers for fast back/forward. I think there was another one on caching chrome (form controls).

I'm going to go back through my list of Firefox hacks and make sure all that stuff is tuned up right. This is a fairly new install so I need to double check.

And I usually have between 18-35 tabs open, so yeah, we are talking a shitload of RAM use. Try having Visual Studio, Media Player, Outlook, MS Project, and Firefox open all at the same time. 2GB memory use is not uncommon at all.hr


+1

Firefox gets laggy towards the 'end' - and if I don't close it soon after getting laggy, it crashes, taking my 50 tabs with it. I went back to 1.0.7 because it was more stable than 1.5 w/ 40 tabs open.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 8:12:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARTX:
Firefox gets laggy towards the 'end' - and if I don't close it soon after getting laggy, it crashes, taking my 50 tabs with it. I went back to 1.0.7 because it was more stable than 1.5 w/ 40 tabs open.



Yeah, that happens a lot on my other machine. It will start to hang for a few seconds when you switch tabs, and sometimes you can't switch tabs. Every now and then it will just dump, which is always when I have been researching something and I lose what I had found.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 8:30:35 AM EDT
Forty tabs!!!! What the hell???!!!! You don't really need to look at that much porn all at once do you?
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 8:45:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mute:
Forty tabs!!!! What the hell???!!!! You don't really need to look at that much porn all at once do you?



Hell I have 19 open right now without even trying:

9 are Arfcom threads
1 Slashdot
3 MSDN
1 Web host management page
1 ADDS Aviation Weather
4 Price Waterhouse cfodirect
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 8:48:57 AM EDT
54 and 40 running processes.


you guys need to do some serious windowz tweaking. my systems are rarely above 30
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 8:50:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mute:
Forty tabs!!!! What the hell???!!!! You don't really need to look at that much porn all at once do you?



nope, no pron ever, esp at work.

Firefox lets me research on google, and open a ton of tabs to look at/consider later. Really helped me out doing fast research on the web as compared to IE. I'll do a search, open a ton of tabs, click through them and get whatever info I want quickly. Even with the memory leak Firefox is worth it, just wish they could fix issue. Guess the browser is worth what I paid for it though
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 8:54:37 AM EDT
Firefox developers said the extremely high memory usage is not a problem it is a feature

It is pretty obvious by now they don’t know how to fix the problem… use Opera.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 2:01:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2006 2:03:44 PM EDT by PeteCO]

Originally Posted By cruze5:
54 and 40 running processes.


you guys need to do some serious windowz tweaking. my systems are rarely above 30



Oh believe me, I am a Nazi about unused services running, and dipshit processes such as "realupdate", the java update crap, etc.

But this machine at the time had open:

Visio
Excel
Firefox
Foxit Reader (a PDF reader)
SQL Server
Visual Studio's Web Server
Visual Studio
Outlook
Media Player
Windows Desktop Search
and possibly Microsoft Project

Add to that a couple of ATI video utilities or what have you, and you can see 60 processes pretty easily. When I was a server admin, however, I could get as low as 8 or 10 on a dedicated role server. That was years ago in Win 2000 though - nowadays more things are services and things are even broken out more.

Right now I have 58 processes running, and I am using 858MB of RAM.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 2:05:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2006 2:07:23 PM EDT by WildBoar]
Wow, how long were those tab open?
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 2:06:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Misery:
But Firefox is so much better than IE!!!

More like trendy shit-ware.



Its thousands of times better than IE, even with the minor memory thing.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 2:24:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:
54 and 40 running processes.


you guys need to do some serious windowz tweaking. my systems are rarely above 30



That is what I was thinking, I have 27 processes now, would have less if it wasn't for this damn wireless setup
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 3:04:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Magurgle:

Originally Posted By cruze5:
54 and 40 running processes.


you guys need to do some serious windowz tweaking. my systems are rarely above 30



That is what I was thinking, I have 27 processes now, would have less if it wasn't for this damn wireless setup



Pussies. Try doing some actual work with your computers....
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 3:25:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
type "about:config" in the address bar, and then right click and go to new-->integer

call this integer "browser.cache.memory.capacity" and give it a value of 65536. This will give firefox a maximum amount of memory of 64mb. if you want a different value, just take 1024 times the amount of megabytes RAM you want firefox to use, and use that for the value.

*edit*

the reason firefox uses so much ram is not a memory leak. by default, firefox stores something like the previous 32 pages you have been to in each tab. so, you have 8 tabs open, thats 256 pages, with images intact, in your memory. no memory leak, just a feature that was setup improperly :P



every time I try that max memory integer thing it never works
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 3:26:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Misery:
But Firefox is so much better than IE!!!

More like trendy shit-ware.



even with the memory leak I've found FF to run better than IE
and one window/multiple tabs is still better than multiple windows
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 4:34:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sharky30:

Originally Posted By Misery:
But Firefox is so much better than IE!!!

More like trendy shit-ware.



even with the memory leak I've found FF to run better than IE
and one window/multiple tabs is still better than multiple windows



For the record, one can install the MSN toolbar and gain not only the Desktop Search that is to be included with Vista, but also tabbed browsing.

toolbar.msn.com
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 4:36:52 PM EDT
Maxthon PWNS FireFox.


Link Posted: 3/1/2006 4:39:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 4:53:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Maxthon PWNS FireFox.





Very interesting. I am downloading it now.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:14:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Maxthon PWNS FireFox.





Very interesting. I am downloading it now.



Wow, I love Maxthon. I already got it set up just like my Mozilla (the standard options) like middle-click open a link in a new tab, etc. I love the fact I can set up the thing to close a tab when I middle-click the tab itself. Awesome browser, with tons of options. So far it looks like I will be a Maxthon convert. Thanks!
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:16:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Maxthon PWNS FireFox.





Very interesting. I am downloading it now.



Wow, I love Maxthon. I already got it set up just like my Mozilla (the standard options) like middle-click open a link in a new tab, etc. I love the fact I can set up the thing to close a tab when I middle-click the tab itself. Awesome browser, with tons of options. So far it looks like I will be a Maxthon convert. Thanks!




Ive been using it a few years now. I love it. Hope it works for ya.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:20:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Maxthon PWNS FireFox.





Very interesting. I am downloading it now.



Wow, I love Maxthon. I already got it set up just like my Mozilla (the standard options) like middle-click open a link in a new tab, etc. I love the fact I can set up the thing to close a tab when I middle-click the tab itself. Awesome browser, with tons of options. So far it looks like I will be a Maxthon convert. Thanks!




Ive been using it a few years now. I love it. Hope it works for ya.



Ha, I keep finding cool stuff, like being able to double-click on the tab bar and open a new tab. So this thing uses the IE engine? I see an option to "Use Gecko Engine" - I assume you can open a tab using Firefox, within Maxthon, as well?

Dude, with as much talk as there is on Arfcom about Firefox, and browsers in general, I think you need to post a thread introducing Maxthon and some of the cool features.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:25:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Misery:
But Firefox is so much better than IE!!!

More like trendy shit-ware.



Its thousands of times better than IE, even with the minor memory thing.



+Eleventy Billion

Internet Destroyer sucks ass.

SG
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:26:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Maxthon PWNS FireFox.





Very interesting. I am downloading it now.



Wow, I love Maxthon. I already got it set up just like my Mozilla (the standard options) like middle-click open a link in a new tab, etc. I love the fact I can set up the thing to close a tab when I middle-click the tab itself. Awesome browser, with tons of options. So far it looks like I will be a Maxthon convert. Thanks!




Ive been using it a few years now. I love it. Hope it works for ya.



Ha, I keep finding cool stuff, like being able to double-click on the tab bar and open a new tab. So this thing uses the IE engine? I see an option to "Use Gecko Engine" - I assume you can open a tab using Firefox, within Maxthon, as well?

Dude, with as much talk as there is on Arfcom about Firefox, and browsers in general, I think you need to post a thread introducing Maxthon and some of the cool features.



Yes, Maxthon uses the IE engine. Of course I never stopped using IE and jumped on the FF bandwagon. I tried it twice and it I thought it sucked.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:38:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By sharky30:

Originally Posted By Misery:
But Firefox is so much better than IE!!!

More like trendy shit-ware.



even with the memory leak I've found FF to run better than IE
and one window/multiple tabs is still better than multiple windows



For the record, one can install the MSN toolbar and gain not only the Desktop Search that is to be included with Vista, but also tabbed browsing.

toolbar.msn.com



and why would I want the MSN toolbar. just more crap having to run
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:51:28 PM EDT
Try installing the CTP version of Windows Vista.

After a cold boot, it was using over 500mb, with nothing running. And the CPU usage keeps floating around 10%.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 7:03:23 PM EDT
The tip about Maxthon is much appreciated.

It kicks the crap out of Firefox and has replaced it.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 8:16:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Yes, Maxthon uses the IE engine.



so it has the same security flaws as IE then?
Top Top