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Posted: 2/28/2006 7:59:08 PM EDT
So, I'm sitting here offshore, and I get a wild idea to have a computer waiting for me when I get home. I say any old standard computer will just not do, so I decided to order up the parts from newegg, and throw myself together what is in my opinion, a hell of a system. here's a few specs:
AMD64 3700+ (2.2ghz, 1GHZ FSB) 2 gigs PC3200 DDR ram dual Nvidia Geforce 7800GT 256mb (SLI setup) 250GB SATA 7200rpm 3.0gb/s hard drive Samsung DVD (16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATA/ATAPI DVD Burner With LightScribe) I honestly don't even know what half that shit is... Acer 17" 8ms LCD monitor (bitchin deal on it) also got a nifty little case, 500w power supply, shitload of extra case fans, stuff like that. I also *gasp* purchased an OEM copy of windows XP pro. 146.95 for that. Final tally for everything, ~1700 So, ARFCOM...tell me, what do you think? Edit for clarification. |
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Should have:
Got less RAM and chopped out 1 Vid Card in order to get a better proc. |
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NewEgg rocks. I just ordered an Athlon 64 x2, 4200+ from them.
No motherboard? |
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I keep wanting to upgrade my POS but cant justify the money |
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that was the first thing i checked the motherboard is a SLI motherboard that came with the video cards. motherboards are cheap anyways..but i figure if it's made by the same people who made the video card, it can't be that bad :P |
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graphics cards are in the original post, 2 nvidia 7800GT's sound card i have an audigy at the house already to toss in there. |
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not bad.
newegg is the r0xorz i've built 3 comps with their parts. |
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right now I'm about 3 miles off Cameron, LA |
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I normally go with the cheaper place, dealing with them isnt as easy but I save money |
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I was thinking about going with a single 7800GT, but did some reading about SLI'd GT's and was hooked right in. The processor is more than sufficient for what I intend to do with it, the dual video cards and 2 gigs of memory will make up for what little the processor lacks. |
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About the only thing I would have done is another HD, bigger and better monitor, and XPpro
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250gigs on the main, + the 160gigs on the external i already have will be more than sufficient for now. hard drives are easy to add on later. i did get xp pro. the bigger and better monitors would have pushed the system beyond my affordability.. believe it or not, this is a budget system |
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Looks good.
About the only thing I would have done different change out the CPU and go 2x core @2.0GHz. |
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Drilling? |
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What are you going to use this computer for that you need two graphic cards? curious minds want to know.As cheap as hard drives are I would have gone a little bigger. You can never have to much. I have a 300 gig HD and 240 of it is already used up.Do you work on rigs or supply boats?Also with that 64 bit processor why not use the latest 64-bit compatible OS.
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Just for kicks..I priced similar hardware through dell, and they were charging ~740 for just one of the video cards I put in my machine, I got both of them for a little over half that. The LCD panel I picked was for 2 reasons..good price, and it had a lot of good reviews on newegg. If it sucks, I'll send it back and buy something else. No biggie. I don't feel that SLI is a ripoff. I think it's an interesting concept, that will be beneficial, not only for gaming, but for 3d rendering, which I also do a lot of. |
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I built alot of mine finding stuff on sale for monitor and stuff
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If you could call it that...lol. This hole has been nothing but problems.. Been here about 3 weeks, we've drilled MAYBE 3 days. Lost circulation eleventy billion times, MWD tool has failed at least 8 times..nothing but problems. Oh well, free money. (except this paycheck, which just bought the aforementioned computer) |
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2 graphics cards : gaming, and 3d rendering. Hard drives 250+160 external is more than I will ever need. Work on rigs. it will be dual booted with 64 bit linux. |
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So that's what Lightscribe does. That's fuckin awesome. |
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Ok, time for me to get off work. I'll be back tomorrow to see what everyone had to say. I appreciate the opinions so far, keep em coming!
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I ran dual 7800 GTX`s for a while then sold one to my brother. I am not sure the SLI is needed with current games. I do feel you did the right think on the ram by going with 2 gigs. Battlefield 2 takes advantage of 2 gigs. The processor choice is an area I will have to agree with a previous poster on.
I would have suggested a better processor and only one graphic card. The case you bought better have good cooling and also a good power supply. Too many times people make the mistake of buying cheap cases and too small of power supplies. It will cause lock ups due to heat and also may not even start up if the power supply is too small with SLI. Overall I feel you have chosen well and I hope you enjoy your system. Which motherboard did you get? |
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Ok, one more response then I've gotta split. Case : comes with 3 fans, I bought 4 more. PSU: 500w SLI ready. MOBO: SLI ready, built by the same people who built the video cards. Actually came with one of em. Should be good enough for what I'm doing with it. |
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You should look around a bit. You can often get computer components in excellent shape for reasonable prices on Ebay and even ARFCOM's EE. |
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Looks like a good gaming rig. I disagree about the SLI videocards, but hey, enjoy. 2 GB memory is not out of line nowadays, especially if you want to play BF2. More and more games will be able to use more than 1 gb of memory, so it's good to have 2gb.
You can always overclock the processor anyways. I have one of the first Winchester core 3500s, and I've got it O/C'd to 2.53ghz air cooled. VERY stable. As for waiting for a M2 socket processor, why? Other than using DDR2, and waiting 6 months after introduction for them to get most of the bugs out. There's always something better coming "any day" now, and if you always wait, you'll never get a system, because x or y is coming soon. If you do alot of rendering/encoding, a dualcore system might have been a better choice though. |
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Also, just a double-check to make sure your mobo power and power supply are compatible. Specifically, the ATX 2.0 (24-pin) plugs can be an issue if not compatible.
Overall, I like it. |
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Is the mobo a socket 939? In dec I built a very similiar rig but with one 7800GT and a Athlon 64 x2 3800+ and a 20' LCD from Costco for $400 You are gonna LOVE the system, it will be smokin' fast. |
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Sounds like a good machine. I just upgraded mine, I went with:
4000+ Athlon 64 2 gb ddr400 73gb Raptor ATI X850XT Platinum Edition PC Power and Cooling 510 P/S I hear fantastic things about the SLI 7800's. I'll stick with ATI for now, though. Sounds like you got a great machine. Sam P.S. How's Cameron look these days? I worked off of Cameron a few days after Rita, but we left from Fourchon, surveyed for a few days and went back to Fourchon. Never really got close to land. I heard it was BAD. |
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Nice PC, but it cost about $1200 more than I'd personally spend. I try to go cheap on everything digital because it just ages so fast.
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No raid...Why no RAID? Meh... Your HDD is gonna be a bottleneck. A stripe helps a little...still a bottleneck though.
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Who made the GFX cards?
And what memory brand did you get? Sounds like a hell of a build. I got a Pentium 4 3.6 512 memory (bumping it to 1 gig Corsair next cash flow influx) 160 gig Hdd ( adding an extra 250 gig internal for music/movies) PNY geforce 6600 256mb (gonna upgrade soon, but this card is nice right now) pioneer DVD/CD burner (which is amazingly fast IMHO) 19" HP LCD monitor So its not the best, but all together I've only spent $450 so far. Want to upgrade: RAM, power supply, add another CD/DVD reader, HDD, and a new video card (maybe a 7800 when the price drop happens) Its addicting huh? |
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You want an opinion? Uhhhh, okay (differences):
....I would have gotten a low-end dual-core AMD cpu, and planned on upgrading to a higher one when they went to the next socket and x2 got cheaper. ....I haven't heard/read that the dual-videocards really perform in accordance with what you spend over a single card. ....64-bit Windows is still not what I'd choose because the drivers for it still tend to have problems, and ther's not much of a performance gain over the 32-bit version. ....XP Pro for home users is a waste of money over buying XP Home, unless you KNOW why you need Pro (>99% of home users don't). Pro=$135, Home= $85. ....For DVD-RW drives I get the $40 Lite-Ons, and rarely have problems traced to them. I haven't heard anything particularly bad about the LightScribe drives, other than most people I've heard who have them end up not bothering to pay extra for Lightscribe disks and just use regular ones. ....You shoulda gotten a WD Raptor hard drive, and used that for your OS drive. They cost more (roughly $180 for a 74-gig) but they do provide a noticeable increase in how your whole computer "feels"--and it is noticeable on ANY computer. It may still run a lot better than what you had, but it isn't the way I'd have done it. ~ |
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I use pro for several reasons, mainly for remote access and networking. I don't believe home supports as many of these features as pro does. I'm still a bit leery of XP64...for all 64 bit stuff, I'll be using linux. the dual video cards are really a novelty at this point. the single 7800GT is most likely overkill for what I intend to do, light gaming and some 3d rendering with maya and 3d studio max and so forth. I do believe that the performance will be increased by having dual, with SLI they should be able to distribute the load a bit better to provide better overall performance, in theory. We all know that theory rarely applies when it comes to computers, though. |
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I prefer ATI cards.
2G of ram, imho. You might want to order a motherboard as well! =) I went with a 4000+, K8NXP-SLI, ATI X850XT PE 2G ram and a stack of IBM/Hitachi 7200 rpm drives. screams for games. |
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Since we have a few experts here. I noticed choppy play with BF2 I had a ATI Radeon X300se 128 MB video card. I am running a Pent. 4 3.2 with 1 gig of ram and XP pro. I upgraded video card to the ATI Radeon X1300( 450 Mhz/512 GDDR@533MHz). I noticed a difference in quality, would it be worth it for another gig of PC3200 DDR? Does BF2 and Xp use that much ram?
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BF2 is an absolue pig of an application and it uses tons of resources with all the graphics features turned on. If you want to use all the graphics features, your best bet is to have a more robust card than the X300se. That is one of ATIs lower powered cards so you should not expect it to run something like BF2 well. Right now the Nvidia cards outperform the ATI cards by a significant margin. I have a 256MB 6800GT as my video card, and it runs BF2 with no problem. ETA -- Just read your full message. You did upgrade your card. Good. As far as the RAM goes, let me put it this way: There has never been a person who has said "Gee....I wish I had less RAM in this system". It might not solve all your problems, but it sure as hell can't hurt either. BF2 and XP are both really piggy on resources. With that kind of video card, you probably don't really need the extra RAM if you already have 1 gig plus of RAM in the system now. |
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Nice! You need to add an Audigy 2 sound card though. Then it will rock.
newegg rocks |
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The motherboard has been mentioned several times in this thread. It's a SLI compatible, made by the same people that made the video cards. Should do well enough. |
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i knew that was coming. what distro . ive been running fedora c4 64 on my amd 64. and it runs great |
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Let me tell you about my BF2 experiences. I have a A64 OC'd to 2.53ghz, a BFG 6800 Ultra. With 1gb memory, I had to run most video settings at medium, or I'd get severe stuttering, especially at the start of a game. When I went to 2gb, the stuttering vanished, and I can use High on nearly all settings, with framerates still in the 60-70s mostly (30s in action scenes). See here for more info on the difference between 1gb and 2gb www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/tech/AN506_1GB_vs_2GB.pdf For most games, 2gb is overkill right now, however, with dual channel motherboards, you can run 2 or 4 memory sticks (retaining dual channel capabilities), not 1 or 3. If you run 4 sticks, you can't generally get the 1T command rating reliably. So you either have 2x512mb sticks, or a 1gb stick in single channel mode. If you decide to upgrade to 2 gb, you either have to have 2x1gb or 4x512mb (losing the 1T command rating, about 3% performance). You might as well have the 2x1gb, considering how cheap memory is right now (I've seen Corsair Valueram for $67 for a 1Gb stick). |
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FC4, I might give FC5 a try, but I already have FC4 on disk. Who knows, it will be a week or so before I get home, and who knows what I come up with by the time I have it all put together and running. |
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BF2 is definitely a RAM hog. With 1gig my machine was pretty choppy. A buddy's machine with
1.5gig played fine. My recent upgrade brings me up to 2 gigs, and all is happy. You should *HEAR* how good the new Creative Labs X-Fi's are!! Especially in BF2. Sam |
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I'm thinking of trying BF2 out. Do they have a downloadable demo or something? |
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I would have:
1) only gotten 7800gt - I'm cheap and a newer faster card will out soon enough anyway 2) gotten a dualcore - I like the responsiveness of multiprocessor systems 3) 19" LCD - the more desktop real estate the better (both virtual and real ) 4) an extra hard drive setup in raid 0 with the first - cheap performance |
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