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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:44:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:47:08 PM EDT
Shoot Mona in the butt with it.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:49:45 PM EDT
I was gonna buy some of that ... how loud is it? Will it have the neighbors looking out their window?
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:53:28 PM EDT
How accurate is it (if at all)?
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:54:57 PM EDT
I saw that. I use the .22 Colibri - the slow stuff- on feral cats out of a single shot Tru Valu junker. No damage, but it sends them packing. A follow up would be good sometimes. How do you think they would work in a HI Power? 40-50 feet max?
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:00:26 PM EDT
I thought ALL 9mm ammo was training ammo
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:00:44 PM EDT
Have you shot any yet? How loud? How bad does the plastic foul the brl?
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:01:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:02:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:03:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
i'd rate it about 2/3rds as loud as a normal round so yes it's loud. they claim accuracy equal to nato spec ammo at 50' i am betting that is without wind. didn't have a chance to really shoot any for accuracy. will try it soon. i will say that plastic bb is haulin ass when it goes bang.



Sooo, what is the "KABOOMMM!" potential?
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:09:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:17:40 PM EDT
If this is the stuff with the metal BB in the tip you might want to be carefull. I recall it can screw up barrels.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:22:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 12:45:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 12:49:04 PM EDT
who's the volunteer to take a full power shot with this stuff?



this is designed to shoot people with right?
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:01:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:10:50 PM EDT
T_B_S, please understand, I am not crapping on your thread but, since it appears (from other threads) you are versed in the use / proficiency of small arms, what is the reason for these trainers? Perhaps just playing around?
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 1:16:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
shot about 50 or so rounds today through my cz75. here are some pics. the flat rounds were shot onto steel, the semi intact ones on paper with a corrugated plastic background.

as for accuracy. i paced off about 20 feet and off hand was maintaing about a 3"group. i do about the same with regular ammo. at 25 yards it was a different story. accuracy went to min of barn REAL quick. not surprising consider how light this stuff is. 100 rounds in the shipping box was under 6.5 lbs.

i have to admit this is some fun stuff to shoot. zero recoil <no surprise> yet enough bang to make you think you shot something. i figure it will be REALLLLLLLLY good to use with new shooters to get them used to the noise with no recoil, and REALLLLLLLY good for failure drills. almost same noise level but no slide movement to induce a jam.

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That's what I was thinking.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:22:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:37:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By AILapua:
T_B_S, please understand, I am not crapping on your thread but, since it appears (from other threads) you are versed in the use / proficiency of small arms, what is the reason for these trainers? Perhaps just playing around?



training with new shooters and just fun. no other reason. I have zero idea why the chezch military made this stuff. It was different and cheap so i figured what the hell. as i said above i can actually see some real world training uses for this stuff. I help a fair number of ladies learn to shoot and 99.9% are scared to death of the noise and the recoil. this would be a great way and fun way to introduce them to i before turning them loose with a live round imho.

other than that i have an armadillo problem that this might be fun to try out on. kinda like airsoft on super steroids



I appreciate the reply, thank you. I was curious about the ammunition you described.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 3:19:17 PM EDT
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