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Posted: 2/28/2006 12:35:45 PM EDT
With additional comments by some shit eating left-wing liberal anti-military fuckwad.

By Carol Ann Alaimo
Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 02.26.2006

The newest bird in the Air Force fleet - and one of the noisiest - will make
its Tucson debut next weekend.

The F-22 Raptor, a sleek and supersonic stealth jet that's more advanced
than any other in Air Force history, will be among dozens of new and vintage
warplanes in town to train for the 2006 air- show season.

Two or three of the futuristic fighters will touch down during the annual
Heritage Flight Conference at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, a three-day
event that allows pilots to practice formation flying for eight to nine
hours a day. It's part of the certification process to perform on the
air-show circuit.

The training conference runs from Friday through Sunday.

To military aircraft enthusiasts, the Raptor's arrival is cause for ooh-ing
and aah-ing.

"The F-22 is a pretty spectacular bit of technology," said Scott Marchand,
director of collections and aircraft restoration at the Pima Air and Space
Museum.

The radar-defeating aircraft, which cost about $130 million apiece, came
into service three months ago, so recently that few civilians have ever seen
one in flight.

"This is a rare chance to get a sneak peek at the next generation of
air-dominance fighters," Marchand said.

The F-22 "is a much noisier airplane" than the A-10 attack jets that
typically fly above Tucson, Marchand noted.

And the Raptor also has much more advanced capabilities, such as the ability
to cruise at supersonic speed without afterburners, and sophisticated
sensors that allow the pilot to track, identify and shoot a threat before it
detects the F-22.

But some Tucsonans concerned about military-jet noise see the extra flights
as an added headache and safety risk.

National security requirements are one thing. Practicing for air shows is
another, said Daniel Patterson, city planning commissioner.

"I'm not sure it's appropriate to have all these additional overflights in a
big city. It seems like it would be more appropriate for a remote location,"
said Patterson, who is also a co-chairman of Tucsonans for Quality of Life,
a citizens group concerned about the environmental impact of the air base.

He said the air-show training heaps one more aggravation onto residents
already negatively affected by things like extra helicopter flights and
on-again, off-again night training at D-M.

Col. Michael Isherwood, D-M's vice commander, said he doesn't expect a major
increase in noise because the F-22 is not at full power when flying in
formation.

According to an Air Force noise study, an F-22 flying 500 feet above ground
level sounds about the same as a chain saw operating nearby.

About 40 aircraft will take part in the training sessions, including
historic warplanes such as the World War II-era P-51 Mustang and the F-86
Sabre, which was flown during the Korean War.
While the training flights will be visible to city residents, the event is
not open to the public.

Marchand said a prime viewing spot is the parking lot of the air museum,
6000 E. Valencia Road, between South Wilmot Road and Interstate 10.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:39:20 PM EDT

who is also a co-chairman of Tucsonans for Quality of Life,
a citizens group concerned about the environmental impact of the air base...



And would be the first to bitch about the effects to the local economy if BRAC put D-M on the list because of the environmental impact of the air base.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:48:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 12:48:50 PM EDT by Chairborne]

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

who is also a co-chairman of Tucsonans for Quality of Life,
a citizens group concerned about the environmental impact of the air base...



And would be the first to bitch about the effects to the local economy if BRAC put D-M on the list because of the environmental impact of the air base.



Ain't that the truth, too! These numbnuts build their houses directly under the flight pattern of an Air Force base (or civilian airport) that has been in the same place for 50 years, then start whining about the noise. I love BRAC, all the anti-military fuckwits finally get to figure out that the US military is not a community welfare program.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:50:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chairborne:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

who is also a co-chairman of Tucsonans for Quality of Life,
a citizens group concerned about the environmental impact of the air base...



And would be the first to bitch about the effects to the local economy if BRAC put D-M on the list because of the environmental impact of the air base.



Ain't that the truth, too! These numbnuts build their houses directly under the flight pattern of an Air Force base (or civilian airport) that has been in the same place for 50 years, then start whining about the noise. I love BRAC, all the anti-military fuckwits finally get to figure out that the US military is not a community welfare program.



Just ask Puerto Rico.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:52:18 PM EDT
THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS!!!
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:53:37 PM EDT
Awww my ears hurt

Yet another whiney pussy.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:55:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 12:57:03 PM EDT by Chairborne]

Originally Posted By NewbHunter:
THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS!!!




Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:56:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chairborne:

Originally Posted By NewbHunter:
THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS!!!



www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/050812-F-2295B-147.jpg



Damn, that is a beautiful jet.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 5:49:23 PM EDT
bump
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 6:23:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:

"I'm not sure it's appropriate to have all these additional overflights in a
big city. It seems like it would be more appropriate for a remote location,"



Ah, yes, Tucson... The 3rd biggest city in Arizona.

Um, guys, that kinda is a remote location.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 8:50:39 AM EDT
I live right next to DM. I happen to love seeing American military might every single day roaring over head. It give me a jolly feeling...

I cant wait to watch the Tora Tora Tora part of the show from my backyard.

- Gazukull
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 11:04:35 PM EDT
A couple of -22s need to do a full AB fly over of Mr. Patterson house at 100' AGL and give that piece of shit a heart attack.



Post 4005 - Raptor #5









Link Posted: 3/1/2006 11:08:49 PM EDT
Id love to see one perform in person. Used to go to the Quad City airshow yearly even though I could see everything form my house, blue angels or thunderbirds were a yearly thing for me. Also remember the golden nights jumping in quite a few times, and lots of sunburns.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 1:41:24 AM EDT
Here's some pictures from the show. Damn, I would have loved to been there.

Hi-res versions can be found here


















Link Posted: 3/7/2006 9:03:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 2A373:



!!!

Do you happen to have a large one of this image? It used to be my desktop background until my former employer replaced my PC one less-than-fine weekend.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 9:16:41 AM EDT
The home I just sold is at the departure end of the runway at DM... it was an awesome show!!
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 11:52:17 AM EDT
Saw the Raptor screaming around town. It makes this crazy howling sound on turns.

-G
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 11:54:20 AM EDT
I saw two about a month ago shoot over FSU going towards the capitol building.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 10:23:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 71-Hour_Achmed:

Originally Posted By 2A373:
img117.imageshack.us/img117/5985/wabfi005i5dp.jpg


!!!

Do you happen to have a large one of this image? It used to be my desktop background until my former employer replaced my PC one less-than-fine weekend.




Don't have anything larger than that.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 10:45:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2006 10:46:50 PM EDT by Mxphreaky]

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's some pictures from the show. Damn, I would have loved to been there.



as far as i know it wasnt open to public.

here is on i took friday morning


yeah the night flights are best, its nice to see the F-16s take off with full afterburner.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 12:52:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 12:53:50 AM EDT by 2A373]

Originally Posted By Mxphreaky:

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's some pictures from the show. Damn, I would have loved to been there.



as far as i know it wasnt open to public.

here is on i took friday morning www.t-mobilepictures.com/photos/photo01/7a/29/947fe1cfcf05.jpg


yeah the night flights are best, its nice to see the F-16s take off with full afterburner.




I'm not part of the public and have watched F-15s, fucking POS lawn darts, and F-22s all take off in burner from as close to the runway as you are allowed. You think watching a lawn dart take off in burner is cool, you should see and hear from up close a -22 takeoff in burner.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 1:19:54 AM EDT
Thanks for the wallpaper.

Love the F-4s and A-10s also!!
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 2:08:27 AM EDT
Tandem roto-porn for the unrestricted aviation fans:




Link Posted: 3/8/2006 3:47:05 AM EDT
The Thunderbirds need to transition to the Raptor!
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 8:41:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 2A373:

Originally Posted By Mxphreaky:

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Here's some pictures from the show. Damn, I would have loved to been there.



as far as i know it wasnt open to public.

here is on i took friday morning www.t-mobilepictures.com/photos/photo01/7a/29/947fe1cfcf05.jpg


yeah the night flights are best, its nice to see the F-16s take off with full afterburner.




I'm not part of the public and have watched F-15s, fucking POS lawn darts, and F-22s all take off in burner from as close to the runway as you are allowed. You think watching a lawn dart take off in burner is cool, you should see and hear from up close a -22 takeoff in burner.



my shop is about 1/4 mile from the runway, so when anyjet takes off with afterburner for about 10-15 sec you cant hear much, then when they pass by all you hear is your car alarm going off.
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