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Posted: 2/27/2006 9:08:07 AM EDT
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Your class is amazing. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 9:21:28 AM EDT
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Everytime I hear the arguments about having the media embedded within the military, I think back to the beginning of the Iraq invasion when Geraldo Rivera was drawing troop movement maps in the sand for everyone back home and in the Baathist Iraq military to see. I agree, the media gets in the way, asks too many dumb questions and misreports a lot of information.
Plus, idiot journalists have no idea what news is important. They focus on human misery rather than the victories against extremism this conflict is bringing. You've all undoubtedtly heard the saying by reporters: "If it bleeds, it ledes." We always see local reporters flock to a car wreck. When something more important comes along like a story about charity or human sacrifice, we get a blurb and maybe a picture. The Iraq war is the same thing, only global. News media is too focused on making money to report without bias. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 9:27:17 AM EDT
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No takers eh? Here you go, though I don't think anyone's mind is going to be changed, which is unfortunate.  www.csmonitor.com/2005/0415/p06s01-woiq.html www.csmonitor.com/2005/0504/p01s04-woiq.html www.csmonitor.com/2005/1013/p06s01-woiq.html www.csmonitor.com/2005/1214/p01s04-woiq.html |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 9:27:24 AM EDT
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If they raped her (which I bet they did) if she can stall long enough to claim she's pregnant I don't believe they can kill her while she's carrying an islamic child.
I could be wrong. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 9:34:44 AM EDT
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She's pulling the train.
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Posted: 2/27/2006 9:53:18 AM EDT
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I guess i disagree , with you some what , as going their to further their careers , they went into journalism to "change the world" as i have heard them say themselves , and after watching PETER ARNET & Christi An'Amenpour , if that is not Agenda journalism , i guess we just dont see things the same. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 9:59:29 AM EDT
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Um, stupid will take you places "big solid granite ovaries" won't.  "For fools rush in where angels fear to tread . . ." <--I read that somewhere. 
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:07:24 AM EDT
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Agreed, dumb rules all else. Darwin is still alive and well! 
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:11:20 AM EDT
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My best friend from childhood is a reporter for the CS Monitor.
In fact, he's this girls boss...he manages their Cairo bureau, which is their main Middle East office. (Although he's lived in Baghdad for 3 years) His article from today is front and center on their website today: search.csmonitor.com/2006/0227/p01s03-woiq.html I can speak for everyone, but I can speak for Dan. He's not doing the job because of an agenda. He's doing it because he like the danger. His last two major gigs: Bogota and Sumatra. Not safe places. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:33:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:46:40 AM EDT
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there is zero bias apparent in those articles, unless you feel that telling "slice of life" stories about locals is biased. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:51:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:57:36 AM EDT
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it seems to me that this is what these stories are about.... do you feel guilty about something? Do these stories make you feel guilty? They don't make me feel guilty. They give me insight about the people we're trying to help. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 11:02:23 AM EDT
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Personally I believe that it was contrived from the beginning and she has been in on it from the get go.
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Posted: 2/27/2006 11:09:35 AM EDT
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Amen sister. I know all too well about the media 30+ years ago and I see no difference now. They were just a tool of the subversive left then (Fonda, Kerry, et al) and that's all they are now for basically the same people. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 11:50:34 AM EDT
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Noone has ever heard of this group before. Out of nowhere, they pull off a successful kidnapping, then disappear. They have made a demand, issued a date, and then failed to follow through. Twice. None of the other groups doing this have failed to carry out an execution on schedule. They still haven't executed her, even with the heat closing in. Any other group would have killed her, dumped her body, and hauled ass by now. This group seems hesitent to execute her. This simply does not make sense when you consider who they are supposed to be. Jihadists have no problem taking out an infidel. So, why are they pussyfooting around? Unless some there is some serious evidence to the contrary, I will always believe that this is a scam. Simply put, if she walks out alive for any reason other than a hostage rescue, something is not right. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 12:12:31 PM EDT
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Thats a good angle. I never looked at it like that before. But she is an established 'reporter' it's not like she just showed up on the scene....lol...she is from Ann Arbor... |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 12:14:14 PM EDT
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if this is "contrived" it's been done so w/o anyone else's knowledge
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Posted: 2/27/2006 12:42:14 PM EDT
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Its been every reporters dream since Vietnam to bring a war down by personal interest stories. How about this one:  Funny how what this terrorist did just before this picture was never reported just like the 14 and 17 year old reference in the girls story. Yes when you only report what you want to report to instill social change that is bias. I certainly don't like the idea of American hostages especially a woman but in this case I give it about as much concern as I did the American protestor ran over by trying to stop an Isreli bulldozer with her body. Which her parents then protested Caterpillar which just like Bush is taking the hit for this one. Tj |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 1:09:36 PM EDT
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I think what bothered people the most about that incident was the summary nature of it; we are a nation that believes an accused person gets their day in court, not a bullet in the head in the middle of the street. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 1:17:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2006 1:51:23 PM EDT
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Ah but that's very true but when an official shoots an unarmed suspect in the US his motivation is discussed to hell and back in the media for we don't try and convict in the media (Its still slanted though pro or con but mentioned) but have it happen overseas during a war, forget it. Motivation won't even be discussed. Bias reporting isn't necessarily outright lies but what you cover, what you don't, and what you purposely leave out to make a social statement. If you read that story she purposely writes it in a style that doen't mention if the young people killed were terrorists or even how they died. As far as we know they had a grenade in their hand but in cotext of a story of the hardship of poor innocents it comes off as US troops broke in and shot them for no reason. You read the other stories the only ones she writes are the personal hardships in war which isn't unbias reporting but anti-war. She went there to end a war and by reporting on the so self thought victims of American imperialism and what she got was to become a victim of those indirectly she was helping. Yea, I don't care for Americans being kidnapped and hope will find and kill the assholes that did this but I'm not crying purple jelly over this victim either. Tj |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 1:58:41 PM EDT
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They believe he is dead. The Coalition received a fuzzy video tape showing a person who looked like him, in DCUs, being executed (shot in the back with an AK) but it was too fuzzy to positivly ID him so it's not definitive, but I believe he's dead (not that this makes the situation any better) |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 2:02:01 PM EDT
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Maybe I'm missing something: "....insurgents launched a string of assaults this week, including coordinated car bombings, <snip> Two car bombs went off a minute and a few hundred yards apart Thursday around 10 a.m. in the Baghdad neighborhood of Jadriyah. US soldiers at the scene said 14 Iraqis were killed and 38 were wounded. Among the dead were a 14-year-old and a 17-year-old, brothers who were working painting the street curb." |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 4:54:30 PM EDT
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US Soldiers said........................................... among the dead....................
She didn't bother to report who shot them but started the sentence with US soldiers to leave the reader to imply they did. The lack of obvious information even the words crossfire is biased. She sure didn't leave out their ages or jobs. Sory I didn't recall the exact wording for I really don't care to read her drivel more than once. Yes people die in wars. I've known that for quite sometime. Though I care I care more for our soldiers. If that's cruel then I'm a cruel SOB. Tj |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 5:48:41 PM EDT
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Again, there is no way they would have kept him alive this long without putting him in front of a camera. |
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Posted: 2/27/2006 6:20:36 PM EDT
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you need to go back and re-read. It clearly states that the kids were killed by an insurgent's bomb. There was no implication whatsoever that the US soldiers killed them. Her articles are neutral...although you might not like her subject matter. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 8:36:22 AM EDT
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I don't give a fuck what she WROTE...the fact of the matter she was just another libtard socialist America hating bitch. I posted tons of stuff in a previous thread, qoutes from the CSM website of people speaking about her. A bunch of muz apologists, stating how much she loved the "people" and was there to prove America was bad, a bunch of killers, America was wrong, Bush lied, people died etc, etc, etc. It made very clear how she felt about our country, and how she sided with the insurgents. I said it before, I'll say it again, and if you journalist lovers don't like it, thats too bad, because my opinion is just as valid as yours. I don't care if she makes it out with her head intact. Fuck her, She knew the risks, I won't shed a tear over a useless America hating turd. She isn't worth the life a single US troop. She sure isn't worth negotiating over or worrying about. Personally I think its ironic the "people" she had some much love and respect for are showing her their true colors. Bet she won't have any problems taking a dump the rest of her life.....she should have thought of that.... |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:29:35 AM EDT
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Sometimes irony is rather poetic. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:57:34 AM EDT
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If you posted something earlier, I missed it. Do you mind reposting it here? Or link to other thread? FWIW, a bunch of people here are calling her a libtard socialist America-hating bitch too but that doesn't make it so. I think most of it is just repeating what other people said, you know, typical ARFCOM dogpile. I want to read her words, what she said, her actions, before I make a judgement, not just what other people say, unless they personally know her and can vouch for where she stands. Like that libtard who got ran over by a bulldozer in Palistine, it was pretty easy to see where she stood, with pro-Palistine anti-America, anti-Israel rallies and burning American flags and other idiotic stuff. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't have the whole picture. Thanks. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:35:26 AM EDT
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I can't search GD, maybe you can try...there was another thread that ended up going probably 8 or more pages when it first happened. I cut and pasted a bunch of statements from the CSM website that I thought pretty plainly showed her position....I hope you can find it. That thread was your typical dogpile as you say, thats why I went and found some info. I will admit, I didn't find much of her WRITING that showed bias, but then again, I didn't have access to much of it. But I thought the statements made about her, and especially who they were coming from were telling. If you find it, add a link in this thread.... |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:38:34 AM EDT
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Frankly, I don't know if she's a "libtard America-hating" whatever....
But there is nothing in her stories that would lead you to believe that. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:41:08 AM EDT
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What ever happend to those human rights activists who were kidnapped a while ago? I think there were 4 of them, some kind of Christian group, some Canadians and an American IIRC
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:42:04 AM EDT
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+1 Can ye smell it? |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 10:54:38 AM EDT
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Are you forgetting that her driver was killed? |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 11:08:33 AM EDT
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You would put that past the jihadists and their friends on the left? |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 12:17:09 PM EDT
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Perhaps she is getting.....justice.....in the end.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 12:23:25 PM EDT
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No bud, Don't you know an American independent journalist that speaks fluent Arabic, with a long list of Arabic friends, admitted she loves Arab people, that sells everything she owns to go into war torn Iraq against state department wishes to humanize the war is a flag waving patriot? 
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Posted: 2/28/2006 1:22:26 PM EDT
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So did Nick Berg and the others....But they are different...I guess they were Americans  |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 1:50:12 PM EDT
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Hmmm, so what does the fact that she is/was an American have to do with the fact that I consider her a traitor, therefore do not care what happens to her? In my book, if you are a traitor, you get whats coming to you. And she is a traitor in my book. Now of course that is just my opinion, yours may vary. Do you think (if I was alive at the time) I would have cared if some NVA would've snatched Hanoi Jane, raped her 10 ways till Tuesday, then slit her throat somewhere in that shithole Hanoi? Not one iota. In my book she was a traitor too. Same deal, you play with a bear, don't be surprised when it attacks you...thats all. You say she has a right to go there and do what she did. Thats cool. I say she has the right to die as a traitorous bitch for her stupidity....no biggie.... |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 1:54:10 PM EDT
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Does anyone actually know what her politics are? Other than hearing things third- and fourth-hand?
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Posted: 2/28/2006 1:58:17 PM EDT
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I do not think anyone at AR15.com does. I know an American (who has been compared to Hanoi Jane and Benedict Arnold) is not safe and has been threatend to be killed. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:04:34 PM EDT
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She has a right to die??? Terrible things should happen to her?? You, YOU, can prove that she is a traitor?? I've been there twice as a sergeant in the Marine Corps. Know this, I did my duty. I am sure that if the coalition knew where she was, we would rescue her. No matter what her political views are. You would wish death on a non-hostile actor and a fellow American??!! You and your kind make me sick. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:05:14 PM EDT
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In the previous thread on this subject I pulled at least 10 statements made by various people and groups about her. From these I have formulated my opinion on her. If you can find the other thread, please feel free to read them again... Again, I am just stating my opinion on the subject, you are free to disagree, but don't assume I didn't do some research.... |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:09:54 PM EDT
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Never said I could prove it. I said it was my opinion. And yes, I feel that if she is stupid enough to poke a bear, she can reap what she sews. Sorry, I don't think she is worth the life of a single soldier, sailor, Marine, airman, or coasty. I never wished her death, I said I don't care what happens to her. As far as I concerned, giving aid and comfort to the enemy IS a hostile act. IMHO that is what she did.... |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:10:34 PM EDT
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apples, meet oranges. You really are a fool. No, really. I'd be curious to know what made you such a fucked up person. |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:12:51 PM EDT
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I can ask the same about you.... What, because in my book she is a traitor, and therefore I can care less what happens to her, I'm a fool? Interesting.... |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:17:54 PM EDT
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For whatever its worth, I don't think her life is in danger at all and I do think it might have been planned or at the least that she has had dealings with these guys before. But despite my personal beliefs, you don't try, convict, and execute someone without all the evidence. And we don't have that at the moment.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:18:02 PM EDT
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pzjgr: All you have to do is look towards the top of this page to see where you sickened a two-tour Marine.
nuff said
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:19:51 PM EDT
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Ehh, whatever. |
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