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Posted: 2/25/2006 11:47:03 PM EDT
Costa Mesa's Border Heat Puts a Chill in Its Latinos
By Christopher Goffard
Times Staff Writer
February 25 2006
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-costamesa25feb25,0,856806,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
In a Republican county known as a cradle of border enforcement zeal, Costa Mesa has long been celebrated — and maligned — as a city that offered immigrants a generous embrace.

Though perhaps best known for its shopping mecca, South Coast Plaza, the city of 110,000 also spawned a soup kitchen, a long-running charity with a free medical and dental clinic and a pioneering day-labor center.

But in its treatment of its Latino residents, currently a third of the population, the city's heart has always been riven, a fissure more evident now than ever.

Last year, the city shut down the dayworker center after 17 years. It abolished its human relations committee after 18 years. And as the city now moves to train local police in immigration enforcement — the nation's first municipality to do so — it has become a flashpoint in a national debate.

Outsiders have rushed in, hailing or condemning the city's efforts. There are demonstrations at City Hall, shouting matches, floods of e-mails, threats of a boycott. But nowhere is the turmoil felt more keenly than in the city's heavily Latino Westside.

"Everybody's afraid," said Sherry Chavez, 23, a day-care worker and mother of two, as she pushed her baby stroller toward her Shalimar Drive apartment. "They're scared to go out of their houses. I have family that don't have papers, and they're scared of taking their children to school."

Chavez grew up in the city's barrios and considered Costa Mesa a nice town, blessed by sunshine and ocean breezes. Since police blocked off her street with concrete pylons a few years back to stymie drug traffic, it has also felt like a safe place to raise children.

Now, she said, the city seems meaner, less like home. Mayor Allan Mansoor insists his immigration plan, if implemented, will target only serious criminals. But Chavez and many others are convinced that roundups of undocumented workers — and the potential harassment of Latinos in general — are imminent.

A few miles from Chavez's block, in a neighborhood of modest tract homes called College Park, another longtime resident worries the city he loves is slipping away.

Ken Rasmussen, 64, a retired restaurateur, moved to Costa Mesa in 1968 and had his two children attend the public schools. He wouldn't do it now; he thinks an unchecked influx of Latino immigrants has ruined the schools.

"All of a sudden, it isn't the same city," Rasmussen said. "I want my city back."

The hubbub mirrors much broader anxieties. Like California, Costa Mesa is an increasingly diverse and expensive place to live. Costa Mesa's Latino population has grown to about a third of the total, with blacks and Asians accounting for about 10%.

The city flourished after World War II, drawing troops from a military base in the city and workers from the Boeing plant in adjacent Huntington Beach and absorbing part of the white flight from Los Angeles.

Today, along with its high-end mall and its teeming Westside, the city features pockets of million-dollar homes, a symphony orchestra, a respected theater and a 3,000-seat Performing Arts Center.

"It's one of the most split-personality cities I've ever seen," said former Mayor Peter Buffa. "If you're south of the 405, it's a small-town community. If you're north of the 405, it's one of the most vibrant commercial areas in the country."

The city is wedged between two radically different cultures. To the north is predominantly Latino Santa Ana, with many low-income and crowded neighborhoods. "Guess what's coming south," said Rasmussen, worried his city increasingly resembles its northern neighbor. "Guess what's coming this way."

To Costa Mesa's south is wealthy, showy Newport Beach, with beachfront mansions and a harbor full of yachts. Costa Mesa's median home price in 2005 was more than $710,000, but in Newport Beach the median topped $1.5 million.

Costa Mesa means "coastal tableland," and the city seal features a sailboat on picturesque blue water. Yet although it is cooled by the ocean breeze, it has no coast, no docks. Those are in Newport Beach.

What Costa Mesa has are high-profile charities, such as Share Our Selves. All week long, immigrants stream in for medical care, clothes and bags of groceries — workers who clean the city's big houses, keep its yards hedged and oil the gears of its humming economy. They know the 36-year-old charity is a friendly place that won't ask about their citizenship.

The charity helped forge Costa Mesa's incongruous reputation as "a city with a heart" — to use the words of a former county supervisor — in a county that has been a caldron of border-enforcement sentiment. Orange County was the birthplace of Proposition 187, the 1994 ballot initiative that sought to curb public services for illegal immigrants. And it is the home of Jim Gilchrist, cofounder of the Minuteman Project citizen patrol.

To some Costa Mesa residents, the immigrant-friendly facilities were a drain. "Costa Mesa has always been super socially liberal, always wanting to take care of anybody who comes down the street," said Roger Carlson, a retired sportswriter who lived in Costa Mesa for 40 years. "You feel sorry for them, but does one city have to take care of them?"

Latinos live throughout the city, and in some crowded Westside neighborhoods around the intersection of West 19th Street and Placentia Avenue, they are the vast majority. Mayor Mansoor said he does not know how many people are living in the city illegally, but he pointed to statistics showing that of Orange County Jail's average daily population of 6,000, about 10% are illegal immigrants.

For decades, Costa Mesa's treatment of its swelling immigrant population has ranged from warm receptiveness to icy suspicion.

In 1989, amid cries that Share Our Selves was a beacon for crime and illegal immigrants, the city evicted the charity from its original site in a residential neighborhood, and it reopened elsewhere.

The next year, the city had a headline-grabbing spat with Jack Kemp, then secretary of Housing and Urban Development. The City Council had decided to bar HUD grant money from agencies that assisted illegal immigrants, but Kemp called the policy "un-American" and issued an order against it.

Costa Mesa has never had a Latino council member. Council members are elected citywide, rather than by district, diluting Latino voting power. Just over 10% of its registered voters have Spanish surnames.

The city's treatment of immigrants is regularly determined by a single vote on a divided council. Last year, with a series of 3-2 votes, the council shut down the job center, which was intended to prevent loitering by day laborers; abolished the human relations committee, which was meant to quell prejudice; and endorsed the mayor's immigration plan.

The plan ostensibly will target only serious criminals for deportation and remains in the planning stages. But fear and confusion are pervasive in the city's barrios, and the conversation keeps turning to what is perceived as an ominous alliance between la policia and la migra, the Border Patrol.

"There's a lot of people thinking that on Jan. 1, police officers were allowed to arrest anyone who is walking, driving or riding a bike who looks Hispanic," said Paty Madueno, who manages apartments on the Westside.

At the Vista Center on 19th Street, which includes the El Metate market and a panaderia, or bakery, merchants say business has been suffering. "People are staying inside, in the house," said Nelson Lopez, 36, a Guatemalan immigrant who works the counter of the Dollar Mart.

Opponents say the plan threatens to erode the already tenuous bonds between the city's police and Latino residents, some of whom refuse to report crime for fear of harassment or deportation.

Costa Mesa Police Cpl. Doug Johnson, who patrolled the Westside for more than two years, said he found Latinos wary of his badge long before the mayor announced his plan.

"The majority of the people, unless you make contact, they turn away or look away," Johnson said. "People who got beat up on the streets or even robbed, they were hesitant [to call]. It would have to be someone who witnessed it who called it in."

At City Hall, immigrant-rights advocates are converging from across the Southland to denounce the immigration plan. And border-crackdown activists are coming to hail it, hoping it portends broader change.

"This will be the testing ground for the country," Gilchrist said before a recent council meeting.

Councilwoman Katrina Foley, who voted against the plan, said she thought outsiders had hijacked city politics. Foley said her constituents wondered why the city was taking on a federal issue. They are more concerned, she said, about getting lighted fields and breakfast eateries in their neighborhoods.

"People outside of Costa Mesa have taken over the discussion, so reasonable-minded residents have been taken out of the discussion," she said. "Unfortunately, our city has become the lightning rod for a political issue that is consuming all of our resources and time."
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 11:49:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 11:50:53 PM EDT by DrFrige]
Eh, South Coast Plaza is a mecca for stuck up Newport Beach Bitches... I swear everytime I go there I bump into at least one of my customers... "F" em!

ETA... I NEVER would have figured Costa Mesa to keep a strong stance like this ... Interesting.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 11:58:21 PM EDT
Last time I was down in Costa Mesa was about 1997. I flew down into John Wayne with a colleague on business. I was just amazed how the place has chanced since I moved away 17 years earlier. The place reminds me of LA. There were illegals all over the place.

Anyway, so my buddy insisted that he drive the rental, so we decided to drive down to Newport Beach and Balboa Island for lunch. The guy is kind of a numbnuts, and he almost nailed this bleached blond, yuppie MILF with silicone boobies crossing the road. She yelled, "You stupid asshole!" at my buddy and gave him the finger.

That's the Orange County I remember.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 12:11:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mattja:
Last time I was down in Costa Mesa was about 1997. I flew down into John Wayne with a colleague on business. I was just amazed how the place has chanced since I moved away 17 years earlier. The place reminds me of LA. There were illegals all over the place.

Anyway, so my buddy insisted that he drive the rental, so we decided to drive down to Newport Beach and Balboa Island for lunch. The guy is kind of a numbnuts, and he almost nailed this bleached blond, yuppie MILF with silicone boobies crossing the road. She yelled, "You stupid asshole!" at my buddy and gave him the finger.

That's the Orange County I remember.



Heh... its gotten worse. lots of these Newport Beach women NOT ONLY have $$$ but mouths WORSE than sailors!
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 12:16:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/26/2006 12:52:46 AM EDT by 22bad]
Here is the website for some of the pro-illegals in Costa Mesa
http://www.immigrantsolidarity.org/Campaigns/Minutemen.htm
It has some interesting pics(of protest signs), maybe someone will post them
eta: decided to "un-hot" the link
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 12:23:42 AM EDT
City governments are starting to realize the illegals do not EVER pay taxes. They do however use police, fire, roads, education, hospitals, libraries and all that good stuff.

I’ve always thought that “deportation” should be synonymous with a flight to Liberia or Somalia. Last I checked, “El Coyote” did not make too many boat runs from the African coast.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 12:57:42 AM EDT
22bad is to immigration as lumpy is to gun photos


I love these articles, you keep my blood pressure 22bad
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 1:38:18 AM EDT

"Everybody's afraid," said Sherry Chavez, 23, a day-care worker and mother of two, as she pushed her baby stroller toward her Shalimar Drive apartment. "They're scared to go out of their houses. I have family that don't have papers, and they're scared of taking their children to school."


Fucking illegals that are afraid to take their illegal little government tit-suckers to school. That's just how it fucking should be.

How about having an illegal-season? Kinda like hunting season, but not shooting them. Just open season where citizens who choose to can round them up and drop them off at the local INS office and *poof* away they go, back to mexi-wherever-the-fuck-they-came-from.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 4:17:29 AM EDT

absorbing part of the white flight from Los Angeles


So, if the whites move out, it's white flight, but if they move back into an area where xyz minority now lives, it's gentrification? Just so I understand...
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:20:23 AM EDT
Interesting how LA Time worked the word "Republican" into the first sentence of the article. As far as "cradle of border enforcement zeal", they obviously never been to Santa Ana.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:45:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RichardM308:

absorbing part of the white flight from Los Angeles


So, if the whites move out, it's white flight, but if they move back into an area where xyz minority now lives, it's gentrification? Just so I understand...



Yep, right on both accounts. Double standard. White flight robs the coty of income forcing either a scaling back of social programs or defecit spending. Gentrification raises the costs of housing robbing poor people of affordable houseing. Whitey can't win. Whitey does evil coming and going.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:52:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
How about having an illegal-season? Kinda like hunting season, but not shooting them. Just open season where citizens who choose to can round them up and drop them off at the local INS office and *poof* away they go, back to mexi-wherever-the-fuck-they-came-from.

How about paying $100 per illegal you turn in? I could fund all my gun projects that way.

Kharn
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:44:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
How about having an illegal-season? Kinda like hunting season, but not shooting them. Just open season where citizens who choose to can round them up and drop them off at the local INS office and *poof* away they go, back to mexi-wherever-the-fuck-they-came-from.

How about paying $100 per illegal you turn in? I could fund all my gun projects that way.

Kharn




I'd be 'Bill Gates' rich in no time!!!!! Alas, it will never happen, not even the Border Patrol makes that kind of bank......
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:00:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AZMAN-1:
I'd be 'Bill Gates' rich in no time!!!!! Alas, it will never happen, not even the Border Patrol makes that kind of bank......

Bah, you're in a target rich enviroment. How about $0.01 per mile from the nearest border per immigrant, minimum of $10?

Kharn
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:24:17 AM EDT
Take a look at the DOJs megan law webite and then type in costa mesa.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 10:57:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mattja:

Anyway, so my buddy insisted that he drive the rental, so we decided to drive down to Newport Beach and Balboa Island for lunch. The guy is kind of a numbnuts, and he almost nailed this bleached blond, yuppie MILF with silicone boobies crossing the road. She yelled, "You stupid asshole!" at my buddy and gave him the finger.

That's the Orange County I remember.



Minus the bleach blond part....I know many woman like that...Newport and the areas adjacent to it are crawling with them
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 10:59:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hmanjr:

Originally Posted By RichardM308:

absorbing part of the white flight from Los Angeles


So, if the whites move out, it's white flight, but if they move back into an area where xyz minority now lives, it's gentrification? Just so I understand...



Yep, right on both accounts. Double standard. White flight robs the coty of income forcing either a scaling back of social programs or defecit spending. Gentrification raises the costs of housing robbing poor people of affordable houseing. Whitey can't win. Whitey does evil coming and going.



Yup, the whites are racists.......both coming and going
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