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Posted: 2/25/2006 6:28:30 PM EDT
The incident about the fool that blinded the pilots with a green laser got me thinking...In a setting of social disorder, a high power laser could be a weapon potentially more dangerous than most firearms most people can get their hands on.

Aside from the fact that blinding your enemy (even if only temporarily) could be a major psychological blow, the fact that the beam is effective tens of thousands of feet distant means that a user can control large areas, effectivly forcing his opponent to seek safe ground, never knowing where they can safely look, thus severely compromising their ability to observe the battlespace.

I have a set of military issue laser visors...but how effective they are I don't know.

What about you? Thought of this possibility?

Being blinded would suck...especially if the fecal matter was impacting the rotating aerofoil...
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:32:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:34:14 PM EDT
I am not worried so much about the lasers - I am worried about the sharks, whose heads the lasers are attatched to.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:34:44 PM EDT
Mirror
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:35:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
I am not worried so much about the lasers - I am worried about the sharks, whose heads the lasers are attatched to.



I worry more about the sea bass.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:37:42 PM EDT



Next?



Sheep
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:38:00 PM EDT
Ill just put on my tinfoil hat might even start selling them hmmm

IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:38:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
I am not worried so much about the lasers - I am worried about the sharks, whose heads the lasers are attatched to.



I worry more about the sea bass.



Those are nasty too.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:39:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:41:32 PM EDT
Very funny.

Sunglasses, even mirrored ones, will do you no good.

By the way, the Chinese Army has fielded a laser specifically designed to blind enemy troops.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:41:46 PM EDT
Thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Most people cant hold an 1" with good ammo, a good rifle with scope and stock off a bench and you think with a little handheld PEN your gonna shoot someone in the eyes?

Please.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:43:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Most people cant hold an 1" with good ammo, a good rifle with scope and stock off a bench and you think with a little handheld PEN your gonna shoot someone in the eyes?

Please.



Did you click on the link in my first post?

That moron hit those pilots from TWO MILES away...
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:46:55 PM EDT
In most places your not gonna do that on the ground.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:48:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Most people cant hold an 1" with good ammo, a good rifle with scope and stock off a bench and you think with a little handheld PEN your gonna shoot someone in the eyes?

Please.



You sir are ignorant. I have been lasered with a low powered laser while flying. I shudder to think what a high power laser could do.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:49:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:50:24 PM EDT
LoL, you want to use a highly visable laser in a combat zone, can you say "INCOMING!".
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:53:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FunYun1983:
LoL, you want to use a highly visable laser in a combat zone, can you say "INCOMING!".



Right...while the laser beam is scything the area, you are going to risk blindness by taking careful aim...directly into the beam...and remember, the laser can be MILES away from you...quite safely out of small arms range.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:58:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:01:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:

Originally Posted By FunYun1983:
LoL, you want to use a highly visable laser in a combat zone, can you say "INCOMING!".



Right...while the laser beam is scything the area, you are going to risk blindness by taking careful aim...directly into the beam...and remember, the laser can be MILES away from you...quite safely out of small arms range.

You're one guy with one beam. Anybody who isn't getting hosed is going to be gunning for you.



What scenario are you talking about?

What if it's just you and laserboy?
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:03:20 PM EDT
With a bigger laser, of course.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:04:37 PM EDT
lase the clowns right back! just because they have one doesnt mean you can't have TWO

get both
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:05:39 PM EDT
Is this the dumbest thread all day? Can someone confirm?
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:07:05 PM EDT
No biggie. When I see the laser beam coming, I'll either duck or turn my head.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:08:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 7:09:21 PM EDT by SirDrinksAlot]
How are they gonna be able to shine me if they don't know where i'm at? Now if i'm 1k yds away with my bolt gun in a little dank shack vs. some guy with a green laser pointer.


I'm putting the odds in 50 bmg.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:09:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ChiefPilot:
No biggie. When I see the laser beam coming, I'll either duck or turn my head.



Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:10:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
I am not worried so much about the lasers - I am worried about the sharks, whose heads the lasers are attatched to.



Somebody throw me a frickin' BONE here. Can SOMEBODY THROW ME A BONE?
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:13:35 PM EDT
You guys never thought of this till I brought it up.

And you are going to be instantly ready to react when it happens?

Go to ebay NOW dammit! I'm trying to save you!
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:13:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:

Originally Posted By ChiefPilot:
No biggie. When I see the laser beam coming, I'll either duck or turn my head.



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Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:19:04 PM EDT
This is pretty far out there.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:20:47 PM EDT

How effective are laser equipped rifles at blinding the enemy?
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:20:50 PM EDT
I'm gonna find a way to mount them to a freaking shark's head!
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:22:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:

Originally Posted By FunYun1983:
LoL, you want to use a highly visable laser in a combat zone, can you say "INCOMING!".



Right...while the laser beam is scything the area, you are going to risk blindness by taking careful aim...directly into the beam...and remember, the laser can be MILES away from you...quite safely out of small arms range.

You're one guy with one beam. Anybody who isn't getting hosed is going to be gunning for you.



Unless the laser isn't colored.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:55:25 PM EDT
Laser huh... hummm.... I dunno....

Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:03:32 PM EDT
my advice would be...don't look at the laser. if the SHTF and roving bands of laser wielding bad guys are out there, look away.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:15:06 PM EDT

This brings up the problem of looking through your scope at a bad guy just as he sights on you and turns on his LASER
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:21:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 8:24:07 PM EDT by AR_DIESEL]

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:
Is this the dumbest thread all day? Can someone confirm?



For sure AZ
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:23:57 PM EDT
I don't think the pilots who were blinded or the hundred or so souls aboard that plane would think so.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:26:54 PM EDT
thats a 1 in a million shot...gettin all worked up about this is like freakin out about lightning...im sure those victims dont think its silly...but im not scared of lightning
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:28:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 8:32:26 PM EDT by 1IV]
Ok, if the BG gets me with a laser well, I guess Ill have to just suicide bomb his ass... Ill just stroll into his cafe with my cane and ask " Can you seem me now?".
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:29:22 PM EDT
at this rate, next week we'll GI light sabers and plasma cannons

i like the dont look remedy...thats a winner...
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:33:01 PM EDT

"In 1995 the United Nations adopted Protocol IV of the Geneva Convention that specifically banned the use of laser devices on the battlefield designed to cause permanent blindness. The United States was not a signatory to that protocol...."
http://www.smallarmsnet.org/docs/lmun06.pdf
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:40:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
Very funny.

Sunglasses, even mirrored ones, will do you no good.

By the way, the Chinese Army has fielded a laser specifically designed to blind enemy troops.


not out of the realm, but how did you get the info?
Midwinter
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:43:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
Very funny.

Sunglasses, even mirrored ones, will do you no good.

By the way, the Chinese Army has fielded a laser specifically designed to blind enemy troops.



Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:46:34 PM EDT
WTF, Over? You are either trying to bait the tin foil hat clique... or you are cardcarrying member.

I really don't understand the question. Are you worried about military lasers? If you get lased, you will not even know it. You will be dead within 5 to 20 seconds via application of good old fashioned H.E.
(In 5-10 years you can worry about microwave weapons)

Are you worried about civy green lasers? (you shouldn't be)

If you need to worry, then worry about Fire. Famine, Flu, or Lead Poisoning.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:47:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Planerench:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Most people cant hold an 1" with good ammo, a good rifle with scope and stock off a bench and you think with a little handheld PEN your gonna shoot someone in the eyes?

Please.



You sir are ignorant. I have been lasered with a low powered laser while flying. I shudder to think what a high power laser could do.



Well, I'm at least smart enough not to look into a laser.

And is isnt like you cant turn your head away and advance.

But I tell ya what, if it makes you feel Rambo-ish you go buy your lasers. I'll stick with my AR thanks.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:49:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 8:51:49 PM EDT by AyeGuy]

Originally Posted By midwinter:

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
Very funny.

Sunglasses, even mirrored ones, will do you no good.

By the way, the Chinese Army has fielded a laser specifically designed to blind enemy troops.


not out of the realm, but how did you get the info?
Midwinter



Read this if you want to get pissed off. More collaboration.

www.afpc.org/crm/crm163.htm

China has already deployed the ZM-87 blinding laser, called a "dazzler" system, which resembles a machine-gun on a tripod mount. Although banned in many international treaties, China is offering the "dazzler" for export on the world market. The U.S. military has deployed no effective counter-measures for the "dazzler," such as protective glasses for soldiers. American pilots rely on night-vision equipment that cannot block the intense light beam.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:54:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AyeGuy:
The incident about the fool that blinded the pilots with a green laser got me thinking...In a setting of social disorder, a high power laser could be a weapon potentially more dangerous than most firearms most people can get their hands on.

Aside from the fact that blinding your enemy (even if only temporarily) could be a major psychological blow, the fact that the beam is effective tens of thousands of feet distant means that a user can control large areas, effectivly forcing his opponent to seek safe ground, never knowing where they can safely look, thus severely compromising their ability to observe the battlespace.

I have a set of military issue laser visors...but how effective they are I don't know.

What about you? Thought of this possibility?

Being blinded would suck...especially if the fecal matter was impacting the rotating aerofoil...




I'll start dropping acid again, and RAVE ON!
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:04:15 PM EDT
Three words: Temple of Light.

That's how I would handle lasers.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:04:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:55:14 PM EDT
MODS please shut this down
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 10:01:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 10:03:27 PM EDT by AyeGuy]
Why should they? What wisdom does your 66 posts claim? Feb2006?
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