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Posted: 2/24/2006 6:33:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 12:14:31 PM EDT by FLAL1A]

After five and a half years of National Socialism it was evident to the few Germans who opposed Hitler that only the Army possessed the physical strength to overthrow him. The workers, the middle and upper classes, even if they had wanted to, had no means of doing it. They had no organization outside of the Nazi party groups, and they were, of course, unarmed.
[e.s.]

Shirer, William L., The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Ch.12 "The Road to Munich;" Section 4, "Birth of a Conspiracy Against Hitler."
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:44:02 PM EDT
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:48:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)



Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:49:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By yekimak:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)






double huh?



NAZIS NOT COMMIES!!!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:51:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By yekimak:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)






+1
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:52:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:

After five and a half years of National Socialism it was evident to the few Germans who opposed Hitler that only the Army possessed the physical strength to overthrow him. The workers, the middle and upper classes, even if they had wanted to, had no means of doing it. They had no organization outside of the Nazi party groups, and they were, of course, unarmed.
[e.s.]

Shirer, William E., The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Ch.12 "The Road to Munich;" Section 4, "Birth of a Conspiracy Against Hitler."



Yup, and those few who DID try and organize or resist were the FIRST inmates at concentration camps long before the Jews, Slavs and Gypsies.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:53:04 PM EDT
i'll just file this one under "no shit"
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 10:00:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By yekimak:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)






double huh?



NAZIS NOT COMMIES!!!



What about commie nazis, I hate commie nazis...
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 10:00:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 10:04:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
i'll just file this one under "no shit"



I was surprised and impressed that a book published in 1960 (8 years before most of the PITA gun restrictions we put up with came into being - you could buy handguns by mail then) and written by a man not generally known as an RKBA activist (I don't know whether he was or not) lists the lack of arms among the civilian populace as a leading obstacle to revolutionary overthrow of the Nazis. What part do you think qualifies as a "no shit" proposition?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 10:06:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Big_Bear:



Link Posted: 2/24/2006 10:09:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 10:16:34 PM EDT
Coming to you again in 2008 one way or the other..................................



Link Posted: 2/24/2006 10:16:40 PM EDT
That's Shirer, William L. not E.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:29:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
i'll just file this one under "no shit"



I was surprised and impressed that a book published in 1960 (8 years before most of the PITA gun restrictions we put up with came into being - you could buy handguns by mail then) and written by a man not generally known as an RKBA activist (I don't know whether he was or not) lists the lack of arms among the civilian populace as a leading obstacle to revolutionary overthrow of the Nazis. What part do you think qualifies as a "no shit" proposition?



That is nothing more than a thorough and competent historian.

Truth has no agenda.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:27:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:27:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)



1933- Hitler comes to power.
1945- Nazi Germany defeated.
-No more Nazis in power in Europe.
-East Germany (Communist) set up by Soviets, who were...Communists.
-West Germany set up by Western Powers who are free.
1961- Berlin Wall set up to keep E. Germans from fleeing to West.
1989- Wall opened up- E. Germans allowed free travel to west.
1991. E. Germany abolished, when it merges with West Germany.
- Soviet Union also abolished. No more Communists in power in Europe.

Print this up and keep it in your wallet.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 8:11:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)



1933- Hitler comes to power.
1945- Nazi Germany defeated.
-No more Nazis in power in Europe.
-East Germany (Communist) set up by Soviets, who were...Communists.
-West Germany set up by Western Powers who are free.
1961- Berlin Wall set up to keep E. Germans from fleeing to West.
1989- Wall opened up- E. Germans allowed free travel to west.
1991. E. Germany abolished, when it merges with West Germany.
- Soviet Union also abolished. No more Communists in power in Europe.

Print this up and keep it in your wallet.



Yeah no shit? and what does posting a quote from a fifty some-odd year old book have to do with the 2nd Amendment. They were unarmed ? Gees I never heard that before. It was a stupid post and my nonsensical reply was to highlight that some guys around here don't know the difference and when the wall went up or down.

Again it was a stupid post. I know I'll go find a quote from Huckleberry Finn with nigger in it and say Books and the First Amendment?

Heel I read the book almost 40 years ago. I guess junior finally dragged himself through it.

Most of the guys around here are already indoctrinated with the Nazis and Gun Control.

You wanna spin this up post it in the History forum. Otherwise, find some more current dead horse to beat. How about Bill Clinton married a nasty lady? No most of us know that. 45s beat out 9mm. hmm most know that.

I know

Pancho Villa crossed the border!!
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:24:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:
Coming to you again in 2008 one way or the other..................................

campaignearrings.com/product_pics/products_medium/hillary_2008_president_1.jpg

www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/images/cartoons/Rudy08Md.JPG

If those are the the two parties' choices in 2008, I'm voting Libertarian. Heck, I can think of a few democrats i might vote for over the gun issue over giuliani.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:34:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)



1933- Hitler comes to power.
1945- Nazi Germany defeated.
-No more Nazis in power in Europe.
-East Germany (Communist) set up by Soviets, who were...Communists.
-West Germany set up by Western Powers who are free.
1961- Berlin Wall set up to keep E. Germans from fleeing to West.
1989- Wall opened up- E. Germans allowed free travel to west.
1991. E. Germany abolished, when it merges with West Germany.
- Soviet Union also abolished. No more Communists in power in Europe.

Print this up and keep it in your wallet.



Yeah no shit? and what does posting a quote from a fifty some-odd year old book have to do with the 2nd Amendment. They were unarmed ? Gees I never heard that before. It was a stupid post and my nonsensical reply was to highlight that some guys around here don't know the difference and when the wall went up or down.

Again it was a stupid post. I know I'll go find a quote from Huckleberry Finn with nigger in it and say Books and the First Amendment?

Heel I read the book almost 40 years ago. I guess junior finally dragged himself through it.

Most of the guys around here are already indoctrinated with the Nazis and Gun Control.

You wanna spin this up post it in the History forum. Otherwise, find some more current dead horse to beat. How about Bill Clinton married a nasty lady? No most of us know that. 45s beat out 9mm. hmm most know that.

I know

Pancho Villa crossed the border!!



You shouldn't drink and post.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:58:17 PM EDT
tag for quotage
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 10:04:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)



1933- Hitler comes to power.
1945- Nazi Germany defeated.
-No more Nazis in power in Europe.
-East Germany (Communist) set up by Soviets, who were...Communists.
-West Germany set up by Western Powers who are free.
1961- Berlin Wall set up to keep E. Germans from fleeing to West.
1989- Wall opened up- E. Germans allowed free travel to west.
1991. E. Germany abolished, when it merges with West Germany.
- Soviet Union also abolished. No more Communists in power in Europe.

Print this up and keep it in your wallet.



Yeah no shit? and what does posting a quote from a fifty some-odd year old book have to do with the 2nd Amendment. They were unarmed ? Gees I never heard that before. It was a stupid post and my nonsensical reply was to highlight that some guys around here don't know the difference and when the wall went up or down.

Again it was a stupid post. I know I'll go find a quote from Huckleberry Finn with nigger in it and say Books and the First Amendment?

Heel I read the book almost 40 years ago. I guess junior finally dragged himself through it.

Most of the guys around here are already indoctrinated with the Nazis and Gun Control.

You wanna spin this up post it in the History forum. Otherwise, find some more current dead horse to beat. How about Bill Clinton married a nasty lady? No most of us know that. 45s beat out 9mm. hmm most know that.

I know

Pancho Villa crossed the border!!



You shouldn't drink and post.



Either that, or NOT while on the rag....or both!
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 10:32:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

That is nothing more than a thorough and competent historian.




William Shirer is a journalist by education and trade. He is an amature historian.

I can say I'm a surgeon because I clip my own fingernails, but that does not make it so...
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 10:41:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)



1933- Hitler comes to power.
1945- Nazi Germany defeated.
-No more Nazis in power in Europe.
-East Germany (Communist) set up by Soviets, who were...Communists.
-West Germany set up by Western Powers who are free.
1961- Berlin Wall set up to keep E. Germans from fleeing to West.
1989- Wall opened up- E. Germans allowed free travel to west.
1991. E. Germany abolished, when it merges with West Germany.
- Soviet Union also abolished. No more Communists in power in Europe.

Print this up and keep it in your wallet.



Yeah no shit? and what does posting a quote from a fifty some-odd year old book have to do with the 2nd Amendment. They were unarmed ? Gees I never heard that before. It was a stupid post and my nonsensical reply was to highlight that some guys around here don't know the difference and when the wall went up or down.

Again it was a stupid post. I know I'll go find a quote from Huckleberry Finn with nigger in it and say Books and the First Amendment?

Heel I read the book almost 40 years ago. I guess junior finally dragged himself through it.

Most of the guys around here are already indoctrinated with the Nazis and Gun Control.

You wanna spin this up post it in the History forum. Otherwise, find some more current dead horse to beat. How about Bill Clinton married a nasty lady? No most of us know that. 45s beat out 9mm. hmm most know that.

I know

Pancho Villa crossed the border!!



Link Posted: 2/25/2006 10:43:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.

(This marks the 578th time the sky has fallen this year.)



1933- Hitler comes to power.
1945- Nazi Germany defeated.
-No more Nazis in power in Europe.
-East Germany (Communist) set up by Soviets, who were...Communists.
-West Germany set up by Western Powers who are free.
1961- Berlin Wall set up to keep E. Germans from fleeing to West.
1989- Wall opened up- E. Germans allowed free travel to west.
1991. E. Germany abolished, when it merges with West Germany.
- Soviet Union also abolished. No more Communists in power in Europe.

Print this up and keep it in your wallet.



Yeah no shit? and what does posting a quote from a fifty some-odd year old book have to do with the 2nd Amendment. They were unarmed ? Gees I never heard that before. It was a stupid post and my nonsensical reply was to highlight that some guys around here don't know the difference and when the wall went up or down.

Again it was a stupid post. I know I'll go find a quote from Huckleberry Finn with nigger in it and say Books and the First Amendment?

Heel I read the book almost 40 years ago. I guess junior finally dragged himself through it.

Most of the guys around here are already indoctrinated with the Nazis and Gun Control.

You wanna spin this up post it in the History forum. Otherwise, find some more current dead horse to beat. How about Bill Clinton married a nasty lady? No most of us know that. 45s beat out 9mm. hmm most know that.

I know

Pancho Villa crossed the border!!



Run out of tampons tonight or something?
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 10:43:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:
Coming to you again in 2008 one way or the other..................................

campaignearrings.com/product_pics/products_medium/hillary_2008_president_1.jpg

www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/images/cartoons/Rudy08Md.JPG



AKA: My Worst Nightmare
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 10:53:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 2:13:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
No kidding? And I thought after the Wall fell everything was ok over there.



You kids don't read your history books. The dismantling by plasma cutter of the Iron Curtain is what made everything OK.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 8:44:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zarathustra1:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

That is nothing more than a thorough and competent historian.




William Shirer is a journalist by education and trade. He is an amature historian.

I can say I'm a surgeon because I clip my own fingernails, but that does not make it so...



One he researched and wrote "Rise and Fall" he became a historian. And based upon his work he is a "thorough and competent" historian. It makes no difference if he ran a candy store by profession.

By the same token if YOU were to perform surgery (even if you were not a surgeon by trade or even trained) you would in fact be a surgeon. If you were good at it, you'd actually be a good surgeon.
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