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Posted: 2/24/2006 5:44:16 AM EDT
I'm feeling curious today. Lately my life has been pretty strange. Last weekend my room mate admitted to stealing some of my bullets and swallowing them with tequila. I guess several of his friends did the same as well. I, on the other hand, was out of town visiting a friend. Now, I was pretty fucking pissed off at my room mate for wasting perfectly good 9mm Ranger SXT rounds, as well as being one of the dumbest people I know. I mean, come on, I had a hard time getting my hands on these bullets, and he could have somehow died for all I know. I was hoping honestly that a Darwin Awards type scenario would play out in my apartment. Now, my question is whether the human body would suffer any ill effects from the digestion of a bullet? Could there be a chance that the acid would cause the primer to detonate? Could the thing get stuck down there? Should my room mate be taken out of the gene pool?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:45:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:45:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:45:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By kc8ard:
Should my room mate be taken out of the gene pool?



Yes.

Sheep
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:46:31 AM EDT

I believe what goes in and is not digested will come out.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:47:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:47:19 AM EDT
If you eat a bullet and it velocity is, say, 1150 FPS, I'll bet you won't eat another. All kidding aside, I guess it probably won't hurt, I just don't understand why someone would do such a thing.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:47:44 AM EDT
Wasnt that scenario played out in a movie once - bunch of guys drinking shots w/ pistol rounds?

I guess, keep kicking him in the ass and see if it goes off

Otherwise, I don't suspect anything would cause a problem (no doctor here)
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:47:53 AM EDT
Let me get this straight:

He actually ATE a live cartridge???

If he is lucky, he will pass the cartridge with no ill effects.

If he is not, he can end up with severe complications including bowel obstruction, lead poisioning, and all sorts of other toxic nastiness I can't even think of.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:48:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By kc8ard:
I'm feeling curious today. Lately my life has been pretty strange. Last weekend my room mate admitted to stealing some of my bullets and swallowing them with tequila. I guess several of his friends did the same as well. I, on the other hand, was out of town visiting a friend. Now, I was pretty fucking pissed off at my room mate for wasting perfectly good 9mm Ranger SXT rounds, as well as being one of the dumbest people I know. I mean, come on, I had a hard time getting my hands on these bullets, and he could have somehow died for all I know. I was hoping honestly that a Darwin Awards type scenario would play out in my apartment. Now, my question is whether the human body would suffer any ill effects from the digestion of a bullet? Could there be a chance that the acid would cause the primer to detonate? Could the thing get stuck down there? Should my room mate be taken out of the gene pool?




I'd leave a few .50 BMG rounds laying about ready for the next tequilla nite.

Taffy
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:48:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:49:07 AM EDT
There are so many possibilities with this.....hmmm, where to start.

I don't think anything will happen in the digestive tract...but tell him to be careful when "eliminating." The bullet, firmly lodged in warm doot coming into contact with cold water and porcelain could cause a accidental discharge.

If you need more Ranger SXT, I have some for sale. They won't feed in my 9mm.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:51:35 AM EDT
My guess is they introduced some lead into their systems since they swolloed jacketed HOLLOW POINTS. WTF how stupid could they be?????????? EVERYBODY knows bullets are made of lead, and hollowpoints are opened up with the lead exposed!!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:52:00 AM EDT
Dayum....

You should collect the 9mm Ranger SXT round after he passes them and see if they still work.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:53:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:56:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 50cal:

Originally Posted By Hokie:
Dayum....

You should collect the 9mm Ranger SXT round after he passes them and see if they still work.



That was shitty thing to say.





Just make sure you clean those hollow points out reall good!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:56:12 AM EDT
I forgot to add, both he and several of his friends later stated that the bullets wouldn't flush in the toilet. I didn't think about asking for the bullets back.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:57:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By kc8ard:
I forgot to add, both he and several of his friends later stated that the bullets wouldn't flush in the toilet. I didn't think about asking for the bullets back.



It sounds like you just need to find a roommate who isn't a complete idiot.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:57:31 AM EDT
Start poking him in the stomach with a sharp stick.

If we're all lucky, you'll hit the primer.

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:58:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By 50cal:

Originally Posted By Hokie:
Dayum....

You should collect the 9mm Ranger SXT round after he passes them and see if they still work.



That was shitty thing to say.





Just make sure you clean those hollow points out reall good!



Why...everybody knows that Ranger SXT's are the most deadly round ever created. After the mini nuclear detonation at the point of impact, the victim will most likely die from massive hemmorraging long before he would become septic from a little poo poo.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:58:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 5:59:41 AM EDT by kc8ard]

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By kc8ard:
I forgot to add, both he and several of his friends later stated that the bullets wouldn't flush in the toilet. I didn't think about asking for the bullets back.



It sounds like you just need to find a roommate who isn't a complete idiot.




Already done, my lease is up in may and I'm moving into a 1 bedroom. My new room mate will be a puppy.

ETA: I'm sure the puppy will be smarter.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:59:49 AM EDT
Reason #1,265,347 why gunowners should not have "roomates"!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:02:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GUNGUY1911:
Reason #1,265,347 why gunowners should not have "roomates"!



At least not ones who look at your ammo and think "Cool! Snacks!!"

That is stupidity of a level only expressable in scientific notation.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:06:03 AM EDT
Like the old (WWI?) song says...


"Pray to God and pass the ammunition"
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:06:56 AM EDT
Get a safe.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:07:07 AM EDT
What you should have done is come up with some BS story about how the gastric juices would seep into the primer and set the round off. (And for all I know something like that might be possible.) Make up some story about how some guy swallowed a bullet and died when the explosion ruptured his intestines.

Act all panicked, then insist on driving him to the hospital. With luck you’ll get a doctor that either has a sense of humor or knows nothing about firearms and thinks an explosion is imminent. With luck they might get some emergency surgery out of the deal.

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:08:50 AM EDT
My dog ate 3 rounds of 9mm....She's fine. Of course she has also at various points in her life eaten rocks, a small tree, a mouse ball, half a bag of portland cement, and a portion of a house. Hopefully your roomie is smarter than my dog. Or at least tougher.....
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:11:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:13:46 AM EDT
I meant to say cartridge. For the post above that, how the hell could a dog eat a half bag of portland? In the summer time, I used to work for quickrete. Portland cement, in other words lime, is some lasty stuff.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:19:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By kc8ard:
I meant to say cartridge. For the post above that, how the hell could a dog eat a half bag of portland? In the summer time, I used to work for quickrete. Portland cement, in other words lime, is some lasty stuff.



I would imagine that she did it the same way she ate her way into the garage......

One mouthfull at a time..
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:29:00 AM EDT
sounds to me that your room mate and his friends are complete idiots and what ever happens to them is well deserved.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:41:27 AM EDT
Very little lead will be absorbed from the bullet. Now if the cartridge came apart, the lead styphanate could cause lead poisoning.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:47:28 AM EDT
I guess they didn't realize the phrase "eating a bullett" usually includes a utensil called a gun.

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:51:06 AM EDT
Were they watching The Crow when they did this?

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:53:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Very little lead will be absorbed from the bullet.





Really? Even though the lead is exposed in a JHP? Just curious as to how the body absorbs lead in general...
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:04:45 AM EDT
Worst case senerio (and possiably the most unlikelyest and funniest).
The bullet is lodged in the intestines and somehow the primer is set off and the bullet is somehow fired while inside the body. The damage will be bad but worth watching. It is possiable that the bullet will be fired fast enough to cause serous damage, pics would be worth seeing.

Best case senario the bullet is passed and your roomate is unharmed.


More likely senario considering it was a hollowpoint with exposed lead, is that lead will be gradually removed from the bullet's exposed cavidy and enter their system. Depending on how they react to it the symptoms could be anywhere from moderate to severe.

There is a possiable chance of the bullet cutting them up from the inside (noticed with red stools) but highly unlikely.


My $0.02.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:08:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 7:09:06 AM EDT by 55Kingpin]
Looks like somebody has been watching "The Crow" lately.....



ETA: Brandon Lee is going to come back from the dead and kill your friends now.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:14:24 AM EDT
A doctor told a guy in my platoon after he swallowed a bottle cap was that anything smaller than a quarter should pass right on through with no problems.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:16:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 7:17:24 AM EDT by Gatchaman]

Originally Posted By cjk1:
Were they watching The Crow when they did this?




+1. Put a parental lock on the DVD player. And jury rig the potty to blow up when they sit on it.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:17:09 AM EDT
Oh I am sure that a little lead in the system can't be too bad. Maybe it will make him impotent and we won't have to worry about others like him.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:18:07 AM EDT
Mail the excreted bullets to OLD PAINLESS to test fire.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:18:16 AM EDT
Tell him to get an X-ray and hang it on the wall. It would make a great conversation piece
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:21:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By guardian855:
A doctor told a guy in my platoon after he swallowed a bottle cap was that anything smaller than a quarter should pass right on through with no problems.



"That's easy for you to say doc....yer not the one that's gotta run a jagged metal object out your rectum."



Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:31:41 AM EDT
So...........why is this guy your roomate?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:32:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 55Kingpin:
Looks like somebody has been watching "The Crow" lately.....



ETA: Brandon Lee is going to come back from the dead and kill your friends now.



Wonder if they felt any kinship with the retards in the movie that were doing this:

(skank) "skank ain't here man, skank's dead"(skank)
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:43:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By 50cal:

Originally Posted By Hokie:
Dayum....

You should collect the 9mm Ranger SXT round after he passes them and see if they still work.



That was shitty thing to say.





Just make sure you clean those hollow points out reall good!



Or they won't expand for shit.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:26:51 AM EDT
I know exactly what will happen based on the type of round. If the round remains watertight it will pass through with little or no problems Assuming it does'nt get stuck somewhere. If it were to leak then this is actually good because the Primer and Powder will be rendered inert. And it will also pass through but the body might absorb some of the nasties like primer chemicals. The chances of it going off as far as a i can tell are virtually nill. Primers can only be set off by extreme heat or physical striking. Could the Stomach acid set off the primer? in theory yes. but in reality that is a remote possability. But finally i have to say that if the bullet DID go off he would probably be killed. The intense pressure of the chemical explosion in an exclosed air tight area (the stomach or intestine) will essentially rip his stomach to shreds. Did he see this done in a movie or something?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:02:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 9:08:11 AM EDT by garandman]

Originally Posted By t-stox:
I know exactly what will happen based on the type of round. If the round remains watertight it will pass through with little or no problems Assuming it does'nt get stuck somewhere. If it were to leak then this is actually good because the Primer and Powder will be rendered inert. And it will also pass through but the body might absorb some of the nasties like primer chemicals. The chances of it going off as far as a i can tell are virtually nill. Primers can only be set off by extreme heat or physical striking. Could the Stomach acid set off the primer? in theory yes. but in reality that is a remote possability. But finally i have to say that if the bullet DID go off he would probably be killed. The intense pressure of the chemical explosion in an exclosed air tight area (the stomach or intestine) will essentially rip his stomach to shreds. Did he see this done in a movie or something?



I think yer on to something here, but missed the boat with your overly technical treatment.

Stay with me now -

.45 - depends if from a Glock or a 1911. If the bullet was intended to be fired from a 1911, this guy is toast. So are anyone standing within 50 feet of him. For we all know the legendary ability of anything from a 1911 to kill everyone in a 50' radius. If intended to be fired from a Glock, the guy is still toast, but only he is in danger, given the Glocks tendancy to kaboom.

9mm - if just one bulet, he is in no danger whatsoever. We all know how people shot by 9mm rounds hardly feel it, so that will be doubly true for a swallowed 9mm. However, if he swallowed a mag full fo 9mm, he is in about the same danger as a single round of .45 fired from a Glock. But not thru kaboom, but rather because of the number of rounds

.40 S&W - the danger will range somewhere between 9mm and .45


22 rimfire - depends upon bullet placement.

And there ya have it - the definitive Arfcom answer.



Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:18:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 55Kingpin:
Looks like somebody has been watching "The Crow" lately.....



ETA: Brandon Lee is going to come back from the dead and kill your friends now.




I know they love the Movie, The Crow. I don't know, could they have gotten the idea from the movie? Did someone actually swallow a cartridge in the movie?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:36:15 PM EDT
I think he's just messing with you. While it is no doubt possible to swallow a bullet, it isn't easy. Heroin-filled condom swallowers practice a lot before they get good at it and use lidocaine to desensitize the throat. I read a whole article on it.

I took care of an AIDS patient who went a little crazy and swallowed a mercury thermometer. When he put it in his mouth it broke in half. The GI specialist took the top half out from the stomach with an endoscope and the bottom half with most of the mercury was followed by X-ray until he pooped it out.

There is zero chance of the primer going off.

The amount of lead either from the exposed hollow-point or from the lead styphnate leaking out is next to zero as well. Lead is virtually insoluble in non-oxidizing acids like hydrochloric acid. Old white paint chips are made from lead carbonate which does dissolve appreciably in warmed dilute hydrochloric acid. Totally different scenario.

I still think he's jerking your chain though.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:40:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
Really? Even though the lead is exposed in a JHP? Just curious as to how the body absorbs lead in general...



1) Inhalation: The primer contains lead styphnate whose product of combustion includes lead oxide. The smoke contains this in finely divided particles that are easy to inhale.

2) GI absorption: This really is an issue with lead paint which is the carbonate, or more precisely a mixed carbonate-hydroxide salt, that produces lead chloride when exposed to the stomach. This is then absorbed through the small intestine.
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