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Posted: 2/22/2006 6:39:31 PM EDT
My travel agent had a co-op travel agent over from Odessa, Ukraine. I mentioned that I have looked at some of the programs where you can go fly Russian aircraft and how expensive it was. I also told her I was a gun collector. She said a lot of the programs were a rip after the American companies added their cut into the deal and she would send me the prices. She sent me the aircraft pricelist and a another program for firing weapons at the military firing range. The small arms prices are expensive (I guess if you are Japanese and have no way to shoot this is a way to do it) but the larger weapons were interesting- I can forward you her info if your dying to go blasting away. Maybe we can get a ARFCOM group buy together and go throw grenades and shoot RPG's

I copied out of a word doc- sucks, sorry.



Program at the military firing range

Price of use shooting weapon, armored equipment, and ammunition

Name of use shooting weapon Shots Price (in USD)
1.PM Makarov Pistol (9 mm) I shot 1,00
2.Stechkin Automatic Pistol (9 mm) I shot 1,50
3.Pistol TT (7,62 mm) I shot 1,00
4.Revolver "Nagan" (7,62 mm) I shot 1,00
5.Self-loading small-size pistol (5,45 mm)I shot 1,50
6.Parabelum Pistol (9 mm) I shot 2,00
7.Valter Pistol(9mm) I shot 1,50
8.Sub-machine-gun PPSh (7,62 mm) I shot 1,00
9.Sniper's rifle (7.62 mm) I shot 8,00
10.Carbine SKS (7,62 mm) I shot 2,00
11.Rifle (1891/30) (7,62 mm) I shot 1,00
12.Assault rifle AK-74 (5,45 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 5,00
13.Machine-gun RPK (5,45 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 5,00
14.Degtyarev Light Machine-Gun (7,62 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 7,00
15.Kalashnikov Machine-Gun (7,62 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 8,00
16.Machine-gun «Maxim» (7,62 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 10,00
17.Machine-gun NSV at a banch 6T7(12,7 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 40,00
18.Large-caliber Machine Gun DShKM (1938/46) (12,7) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 20,00
19.ZPU-4 (14,5 mm) I shot 60,00
20.AGS-17 (30 mm) I shot 60,00
21.Underbarrel Grenade Launcher (40 mm) I shot 60,00
22.Grenade launcher RPG (40 mm) I shot 180,00
23.ZU-23 (23 mm) I shot 180,00

Price of driving of armored equipment at the tank firing range
# Name of armored equipment Number of circles (1 circle ≈ 4 km) Price (in USD)
1. T-80 1 450,00
2. T-72A 1 200,00
3. T-64A 1 200,00
4. BMP-1 (Combat vehicle of infantry) 1 100,00
5. BMP-2 (Combat vehicle of infantry) 1 150,00
6. BMP-70 (Combat vehicle of infantry) 1 50,00
7. BMP-80 (Combat vehicle of infantry) 1 60,00

AIRCRAFT

FLIGHT PROGRAM
at the military airdromes of Ministry of Defense of Ukraine



Type of aircraft Price
1 flight on L-39 $1 500
2 flight on L-39 $2 000
Su-27UB $11 000
MiG-29UB $8 500
Mi-8 (1 hour/12 persons)$2 000



The price includes:
- Repair and technical maintenance of aircraft equipment
- Land and air radio interchange
- Fuel for the time of aircraft work
- Use of rooms for instructing and rest
- Preparation to flights
- Medical survey
- Instructing
- Insurance at the aerodromes The price does not include:
- Uniform (helmet, mask, costume), overall - $ 100 when flight on aircraft,
$ 50 when flight on helicopter
- Other additional services




According to the demands the minimum duration of flight on the trainer airplanes is 30 min.
Time of open – close of cockpit is point of flight time’s count.


Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:41:05 PM EDT
This stuff's been going on since the wall came down.

Originally, it was Former Soviet Republic / client states doing this.

Now mother Russia, eh???

Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:42:43 PM EDT
not at these prices on the aircraft side. It usually about double the cost.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:45:36 PM EDT
i might do the RPG if it was local, but flying to russia just to shoot a gun is a bit out of the question
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:50:18 PM EDT
The tank prices dont seem too bad for 4km....

Compared to the price of firing the rifles.

Hell I put a belt through an RPD for way less than in would cost there
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:51:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ggllggll:
i might do the RPG if it was local, but flying to russia just to shoot a gun is a bit out of the question



No, you order the "combo platter" and bring back a wife.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:54:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By nationwide:

Originally Posted By ggllggll:
i might do the RPG if it was local, but flying to russia just to shoot a gun is a bit out of the question



No, you order the "combo platter" and bring back a wife.



Dont think that would go over well
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 7:04:37 PM EDT
Please e-mail me the contact for that firm in Odessa. I'm gonna be in the neighborhood and now have something I wanna do on the weekends. (Yes I am completely serious)
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 8:03:27 PM EDT
ok I ll get the details for ya. Post pics...
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 8:10:07 PM EDT
I think I can beat the A/C prices, just have to check.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 8:26:40 PM EDT
SU-27?! Hot damn, time to start saving my pennies.

Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:19:18 AM EDT
PPSH 41 sub machine gun = $1.00 for one shot

I hope they let you fire off a 35 round magazine in a burst for $35 ?

because it wouldnt be any fun if you could only fire one shot at a time
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 3:16:45 PM EDT
Crapola, I'll have to hit it up another time, my travel is taking me elsewhere. Got anything in the Balkans?
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 3:25:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jasondcrum:
The small arms prices are expensive (I guess if you are Japanese and have no way to shoot this is a way to do it) but the larger weapons were interesting- I can forward you her info if your dying to go blasting away. Maybe we can get a ARFCOM group buy together and go throw grenades and shoot RPG's





Looks like the short supply and cost of 7.92x39 and 5.45x39 is affecting everyone these days.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 3:29:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jasondcrum:

Program at the military firing range

Price of use shooting weapon, armored equipment, and ammunition

Name of use shooting weapon Shots Price (in USD)
1.PM Makarov Pistol (9 mm) I shot 1,00
2.Stechkin Automatic Pistol (9 mm) I shot 1,50
3.Pistol TT (7,62 mm) I shot 1,00
4.Revolver "Nagan" (7,62 mm) I shot 1,00
5.Self-loading small-size pistol (5,45 mm)I shot 1,50
6.Parabelum Pistol (9 mm) I shot 2,00
7.Valter Pistol(9mm) I shot 1,50
8.Sub-machine-gun PPSh (7,62 mm) I shot 1,00
9.Sniper's rifle (7.62 mm) I shot 8,00
10.Carbine SKS (7,62 mm) I shot 2,00
11.Rifle (1891/30) (7,62 mm) I shot 1,00
12.Assault rifle AK-74 (5,45 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 5,00
13.Machine-gun RPK (5,45 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 5,00
14.Degtyarev Light Machine-Gun (7,62 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 7,00
15.Kalashnikov Machine-Gun (7,62 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 8,00
16.Machine-gun «Maxim» (7,62 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 10,00
17.Machine-gun NSV at a banch 6T7(12,7 mm) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 40,00
18.Large-caliber Machine Gun DShKM (1938/46) (12,7) 1 burst (6 cartridges) 20,00
19.ZPU-4 (14,5 mm) I shot 60,00
20.AGS-17 (30 mm) I shot 60,00
21.Underbarrel Grenade Launcher (40 mm) I shot 60,00
22.Grenade launcher RPG (40 mm) I shot 180,00
23.ZU-23 (23 mm) I shot 180,00




And you wonder why those things are every where in the world.

What does a LAW, SMAW, or AT-4 cost?
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 3:43:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ggllggll:
i might do the RPG if it was local, but flying to russia just to shoot a gun is a bit out of the question



Yeah but the Russian women are an added bonus
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 3:56:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/23/2006 4:00:40 PM EDT by svtfast]
If I was ever in the area I just might have to blow some greenbacks

ETA: I just remembered that my best friend's wife is russian, she told me before I deployed that I should take a trip with my buddy and her to russia




Dont get confused, I have two best friends, my all time bro is in the states, Dustin. My other best friend is my overseas best friend, Jose keeps me sain in Germany.
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