Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war'
Neighbors of Muslim encampment fear retaliation if they report to police
Posted: February 17, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Entrance to Hancock, N.Y., encampment (Courtesy Northeast Intelligence Network)
The Pakistani terrorist group Jamaat ul Fuqra is using Islamic schools in the United States as training facilities, confirms a joint investigative report by an intelligence think tank and an independent reporter.

A covert visit to an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called "Islamberg" found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities, said the report by the Northeast Intelligence Network, which worked with an Internet blogger, "CP," to publish an interim report.

The neighbors interviewed said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.

"We see children – small children run around over there when they should be in school," one neighbor said. "We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there. Those people are armed and dangerous."

The resident said his household gets "nothing but menacing looks from the people who go in and out of the camp, and sometimes they yell at us to mind our own business when we are just driving by."

"We don't even dare to slow down when we drive by," the resident said. "They own this mountain and they know it, and there is nothing we can do about it but move, and we can't even do that. Who wants to buy property next to that?"

Jamaat ul-Fuqra, or "community of the impoverished," was formed by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani in New York in 1980. Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," has stated his objective is to "purify" Islam through violence.

Gilani also is the founder of a village in South Carolina called "Holy Islamville."

The encampment in Hancock, N.Y., is run by a front for Jamaat ul-Fuqra called Muslims of the Americas Inc., which operates a school known as the International Quranic Open University Inc.


Entrance to Hancock, N.Y., encampment (Courtesy Northeast Intelligence Network)

The facility is on 70 acres of remote land on the western edge of the Catskill Mountains, about 40 miles southeast of Binghamton, N.Y. A sign at the entrance identifies the place as "Islamberg." The other side of the sign says "International Quranic Open University" and "Muslims of the Americas Inc."

Every one of the neighboring residents interviewed expressed disappointment and additional concern that federal law enforcement is not investigating the activities, the report said.

"These people need to be investigated," a resident said. "They are training for war, either for war here in this country or against our troops. Who in the h--- is allowing this stuff to happen right here in our own backyard, and why?"

Headquarters in the USA

Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in the U.S.

The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in compounds where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority.

According to the report, there appear to be more than two dozen "Jamaats," or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members.


Guard shack at Hancock, N.Y., encampment (Courtesy Northeast Intelligence Network)

An investigation of the group by the Colorado Attorney General's office in the early 1980s found several of the communities operate covert paramilitary training compounds, including one in a mountainous area near Buena Vista, Colo.

Muslims of the Americas Inc., a tax-exempt organization formed in 1980 by Gilani, has been directly linked by court documents to Jamaat ul-Fuqra. The organization operates communes of primarily black, American-born Muslims throughout the U.S. The investigation confirmed members commonly use aliases and intentional spelling variations of their names and routinely deny the existence of Jamaat ul-Fuqra.

Members have been known to go to Pakistan for paramilitary training, but the investigation found evidence the U.S. encampments offer such training so members don't need to risk traveling abroad amid increased scrutiny following the 9-11 attacks.

The report says Jamaat ul-Fuqra members have "purchased isolated rural properties in North America to live as a community, practice their faith, and insulate themselves from Western culture. The group has established rural encampments that U.S. authorities allege are linked to murder, bombings and other felonies throughout North America."

U.S. authorities have probed the group for charges ranging from links to al-Qaida to laundering and funneling money into Pakistan for terrorist activities. The organization supports various terrorist groups operating in Pakistan and Kashmir, and Gilani himself is linked directly to Hamas and Hezbollah. Throughout the 1980s, JF was responsible for a number of terrorist acts across the United States, including numerous fire-bombings.

Gilani was at one time in Pakistani custody for the abduction of American journalist Daniel Pearl. Intelligence sources have determined Pearl was attempting to meet with Gilani in the days before he disappeared in Karachi. Intelligence sources also suggest a link between Jamaat ul Fuqra and Richard Reid, the infamous "shoe bomber" who attempted to ignite explosives aboard a Paris-to-Miami passenger flight Dec. 22, 2001.

Field investigation

Douglas J. Hagmann, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network and multi-state licensed private investigator, and others conducted their covert field investigation Feb. 8 and 9 at the Hancock encampment connected to the terrorist group.

Primary access to the compound is an unmarked road – labeled on county and state maps as "Moslem Road"

Two structures with capacities of up to 100 each appear to be used for religious training, education and meeting purposes, according to local sources. Investigators found a weapons firing range that is not visible from the road or any other publicly accessible vantage position. It appeared to have been recently used.

Near the eastern perimeter of the property – on a hillside – appears to be a military-style training area, including ropes hung from tree limbs, an obstacle course, wooden fences for scaling and other items and structures one would expect to find in a "boot-camp" setting. The area also appeared to have been used recently.

The report noted the property is near the Cannonsville Reservoir and Watershed Area, one of several water supply sources servicing New York City and adjacent areas.

The investigators noted men appeared to be designated to provide security for the compound, with some posted at guard shacks.

"Although no activity of extreme significance was observed (the presence of armed sentries guarding the perimeter of the compound excluded) during this period of surveillance, it was obvious that measures to insure that the activities taking place at this location were well insulated from public view," the report said.

Investigators interviewed six area residents, who each requested anonymity for the report and found them to be consistent. The report summarized the information:

   * The encampment has been in operation for at least 20 years and appears to maintain a steady level of occupancy. Each source confirmed the existence of at least one armed guard at the main entrance, especially during "special events" that result in a significant number of visitors by vehicle. The events appear to be meetings or religious services held within the compound.

   * Nearly every weekend, sound of gunfire can be heard from the camp. According to one neighbor who stated he's a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, some of the weapons obviously are "automatic" and large-caliber. On at least two occasions last summer, area residents heard small explosions.

   * The occupants won't allow anyone not affiliated with their organization to enter the encampment. All of the residents stated they've never observed a marked law enforcement vehicle enter the compound at any time.

   * Visitors to the compound are numerous and frequent. All visitors appear to be black males operating late model vehicles, mostly SUVs, and many possess license plates from Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina and Tennessee.

   * At least once each week, private deliveries of unknown items are made to the camp by unmarked box-style trucks. The trucks, usually at the compound for two to three hours at a time, are operated by black males or men who appear to be of Middle Eastern origin.

   * Men of Middle Eastern origin appear to be "frequent guests" of the encampment, many in traditional Islamic attire. Some appear to stay at the encampment for three to four days or longer. During the visits, activity and security at the compound is heightened noticeably.

The report also says it found that a number of the residents of the compound work for the New York State Thruway, as tollbooth operators in the New York City area or are employed at a nearby center that processes credit card transactions and maintains vital confidential financial records.

The report concludes additional investigation by law enforcement authorities is required.

"The appropriate action must be taken now to insure the safety and security of the United States, or it is certain that we will be forced to deal with the consequences. …"

Sounds like a good place for a Tomahawk.

No surprise there.

Give it a couple of years and we will probably have anti-muslim groups doing the same thing, if we don't already.

The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary

Then perhaps these cretins should move to the east?
This is the West....you are in America....not fucking Saudi Arabia.
Dont like it, fucking leave.

This isnt Pakistan, although lately I am starting to wonder if we will know the difference in 20 years. Will SOMEONE in a position of authority in this nation do something about this religion before it destroys our country? Islam is not what the founding fathers were referring to with respect to freedom of religion.

Beleiving in your own faith is fine. Killing those that dont is not acceptable.
Perhaps the residents can appeal to senator Clinton....she must surely have the desire to fix this?

Quoted: Sounds like a good place for a Tomahawk.

I say we mobilize ARFCOM.

Quoted: one neighbor said. "We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there. Those people are armed and dangerous."

you sure its not an arfcommer's house?  

I am still amazed that there haven't been anti-Muslim bombings in this country.

All we have to do is say that the training camp is promoting Jesus, and
that the guy in charge has multiple wives, and the ATF will go burn the place
to the ground.

Problem solved.

Quoted: I am still amazed that there haven't been anti-Muslim bombings in this country.

Are you kidding?  If anyone did (even if justified) they'd be hung out to dry more so than the terrorists themselves.

CMOS

Quoted: All we have to do is say that the training camp is promoting Jesus, and that the guy in charge has multiple wives, and the ATF will go burn the place to the ground. Problem solved.

True, fucked up, but true.

well, there's an actual website: www.holyislamville.org/

but it seems their big claim to fame is a bonafide miracle when a rainbow sprouted from their fax machine and you could see the name of allah and the big mo in the pretty colors...

Quoted: All we have to do is say that the training camp is promoting Jesus, and that the guy in charge has multiple wives, and the ATF will go burn the place to the ground. Problem solved.

I was thinking the same thing.
In a country where we have federal sting operations to nail 'dead beat dads' (at least during election years) one would think we could ask a couple of FBI agents to stop by with a few ATF folks and ask them what all the shooting is about. If they have a range, are legally in this country, then they have every right to the 2nd ammendment like we do. Giving the benefit of the doubt, I would be wary to convict just because a NY resident says they heard weapons that are "obviously are "automatic" and large-caliber". We all know that those statements are useless.

All that said, why arent the residents doing more about this?
They waiting for the A Team? Hanibal hasn't reached out to them yet?
Hancock....its your community. If something is rotten, look into it.
Dont wait to be rescued....deal with the situation. If a religious cult has taken over a piece of land and set up a camp, it shouldnt take more than some local observation by the area LEO to determine what is going on up there.

Has anyone forwarded this article to the local FBI?

Quoted: Arfcom road trip?

Boy would they be suprised  

Quoted: Quoted: I am still amazed that there haven't been anti-Muslim bombings in this country. Are you kidding?  If anyone did (even if justified) they'd be hung out to dry more so than the terrorists themselves. CMOS

I would imagine that if someone were inclined to, they could easily place and detonate an IED similar to the ones in Iraq, detonate it, and get out of Dodge pretty quickly. Travelling to another state to commit such an act and going home immediatly afterwards would probably go a long way in getting away with it.

If an individual or group limited their activities to attacks on groups like the one listed here, they would probably never even have anyone trying hard to find them.

Quoted: ………must not criticize the RoP®

Says who?

I'm only excercising my first amendment right to demonstrate that my second amendment right might be needed to deal with their first amendment rights.

Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like a good place for a Tomahawk. I say we mobilize ARFCOM.

+1 Got it thumbtacked on my google earth map

Terrorists is the USA?     Of course, they have been here for years.  They are called the DNC.

I am a few hours away from here.....maybe take a Sunday drive and see what this looks like in person. I have a tough time not calling BS, but I can't say I would be surprised if it were true.

Ought to be interesting.

The NE Intelligence Network website is infamous for its alarmism and sensational stories that never pan out.  They're like the American Debka.com, except not as well-regarded, respected, or accurate.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am still amazed that there haven't been anti-Muslim bombings in this country. Are you kidding?  If anyone did (even if justified) they'd be hung out to dry more so than the terrorists themselves. CMOS I would imagine that if someone were inclined to, they could easily place and detonate an IED similar to the ones in Iraq, detonate it, and get out of Dodge pretty quickly. Travelling to another state to commit such an act and going home immediatly afterwards would probably go a long way in getting away with it. If an individual or group limited their activities to attacks on groups like the one listed here, they would probably never even have anyone trying hard to find them.

I'm afraid you would become public enemy #1, the only thing worse than pedophiles murdering and eating their victims on prime time TV is the crime of "intolerance" towards a minority.

the Catskill's are full of religious camps, Jew's, Christian you name it.....nothing new here.


Just typical WND / NIN paranoid sensationalism published for the aluminum beanie crowd.

Damn..   I have been near there in a PA town called Equinunk,  It is only about 45min or so from me. ...    ROAD TRIP

ETA

Quoted: the Catskill's are full of religious camps, Jew's, Christian you name it.....nothing new here. Just typical WND / NIN paranoid sensationalism published for the aluminum beanie crowd.

How many of those are enemies of ours?

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am still amazed that there haven't been anti-Muslim bombings in this country. Are you kidding?  If anyone did (even if justified) they'd be hung out to dry more so than the terrorists themselves. CMOS I would imagine that if someone were inclined to, they could easily place and detonate an IED similar to the ones in Iraq, detonate it, and get out of Dodge pretty quickly. Travelling to another state to commit such an act and going home immediatly afterwards would probably go a long way in getting away with it. If an individual or group limited their activities to attacks on groups like the one listed here, they would probably never even have anyone trying hard to find them. I'm afraid you would become public enemy #1, the only thing worse than pedophiles murdering and eating their victims on prime time TV is the crime of "intolerance" towards a minority.

I'm sure there would be an outcry from the "love everyone" crowd. The people that matter however, probably wouldn't care a whole lot about it.

Sort of like when drug dealers kill each other. It is investigated, but it doesn't take the priotiry that the murder of a decent citizen would.

If someone was to toss a grenade through the front door of a mosque, simply because it is a mosque, they would be hunted down relentlessly, as they should be.

If someone detonated an IED at the gate of a compound where terrorists are suspected to be training, and then left the area, there probably wouldn't be enough evidence to merit an intense search for those responsible. After all, it would only be terrorists killing other terrorists.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am still amazed that there haven't been anti-Muslim bombings in this country. Are you kidding?  If anyone did (even if justified) they'd be hung out to dry more so than the terrorists themselves. CMOS I would imagine that if someone were inclined to, they could easily place and detonate an IED similar to the ones in Iraq, detonate it, and get out of Dodge pretty quickly. Travelling to another state to commit such an act and going home immediatly afterwards would probably go a long way in getting away with it. If an individual or group limited their activities to attacks on groups like the one listed here, they would probably never even have anyone trying hard to find them. I'm afraid you would become public enemy #1, the only thing worse than pedophiles murdering and eating their victims on prime time TV is the crime of "intolerance" towards a minority. I'm sure there would be an outcry from the "love everyone" crowd. The people that matter however, probably wouldn't care a whole lot about it. Sort of like when drug dealers kill each other. It is investigated, but it doesn't take the priotiry that the murder of a decent citizen would. If someone was to toss a grenade through the front door of a mosque, simply because it is a mosque, they would be hunted down relentlessly, as they should be. If someone detonated an IED at the gate of a compound where terrorists are suspected to be training, and then left the area, there probably wouldn't be enough evidence to merit an intense search for those responsible. After all, it would only be terrorists killing other terrorists.

Who says those Mosques aren't part of the "training" ops for the ROPer's???


CMOS

Let me know of any camps in my area. I'll do a recon.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am still amazed that there haven't been anti-Muslim bombings in this country. Are you kidding?  If anyone did (even if justified) they'd be hung out to dry more so than the terrorists themselves. CMOS I would imagine that if someone were inclined to, they could easily place and detonate an IED similar to the ones in Iraq, detonate it, and get out of Dodge pretty quickly. Travelling to another state to commit such an act and going home immediatly afterwards would probably go a long way in getting away with it. If an individual or group limited their activities to attacks on groups like the one listed here, they would probably never even have anyone trying hard to find them. I'm afraid you would become public enemy #1, the only thing worse than pedophiles murdering and eating their victims on prime time TV is the crime of "intolerance" towards a minority. I'm sure there would be an outcry from the "love everyone" crowd. The people that matter however, probably wouldn't care a whole lot about it. Sort of like when drug dealers kill each other. It is investigated, but it doesn't take the priotiry that the murder of a decent citizen would. If someone was to toss a grenade through the front door of a mosque, simply because it is a mosque, they would be hunted down relentlessly, as they should be. If someone detonated an IED at the gate of a compound where terrorists are suspected to be training, and then left the area, there probably wouldn't be enough evidence to merit an intense search for those responsible. After all, it would only be terrorists killing other terrorists. Who says those Mosques aren't part of the "training" ops for the ROPer's??? CMOS

That is why I specified about an attack on one for no reason other than being a mosque. You could bet that nearly every mosque has connections to someone who has jihad plans. However, the people inside may not have anything to do with that.

It would be like shooting up a Baptist church to take out a domestic terrorist.

I do not disapprove of people taking action against those who they have real, valid reasons to believe are terrorists. However, the random killing of muslims is nothing more than murder, and is no different from what they want to do to us.  

I'm tagging this one.

Here is an apparent NYT article from 2002 about the place... www.rickross.com/reference/islamic/islamic48.html

I did a google on 'Islamberg' & 'Hancock' I got some interesting links.
Whatever is going on up there, it isnt baseball, apple pie, and the Flag.

Quoted: Let me know of any camps in my area. I'll do a recon.

I'm in with you Bama, but I don't think we will have that problem. The state law that requires you to declare allegiance to Auburn or Alabama when you move it is in direct violation with their beliefs..........

Throw them the fuck out. Let the ACLU and DNC campaign against the 'persecution' of these terrorist bastards, and it will all come out in the rinse.

Quoted: Sounds like a good place for a Tomahawk.

Sounds like a good place for Lon Horiuchi.

Maybe we should start our own intelligence network for this kind of shit.

I've always been saying it:  It's just a matter of time before they stage an infantry type assault in the US.  Imagine 20 or more moving vans packed with these scum drive into Washington DC, they simultaneously stop near the capitol building and major road bottleneck and dump all those dirtbags off fully armed.  It could happen anywhere.  Plus, they like to kill children, so any school is now a target.

It is absolutely sickening, embarrassing & pathetic that our government at any level allows these pieces of shit to continue to operate.  This is a disgrace to our country. Looks like it's time for some vigilante justice.

This should be getting national attention.

These training camps could be where they train to attack a school or a shopping mall. We don't need to have what happened in Russia to occur here.

I did a search and could not find anything about any camps in my area.

Quoted: I am still amazed that there haven't been anti-Muslim bombings in this country.

I've always been amazed that the Al Farooq (sp) mosque in Brooklyn, NY hasn't been
blown to smithereens by someone that lost family members on 9/11.

There is tons of evidence about that place being a safe harbor for
terrorists.

Check your County Seat web sites.  At least in mine, they have a landowner search that lets you look up who owns what piece of property.  You can search by name, parcel number, address, etc.

It may help in finding out who owns what in these "terrorist training areas'.

Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like a good place for a Tomahawk. Sounds like a good place for Lon Horiuchi CHUCK NORRIS.

Fixed it for ya

There is a number of muslim communities/mosques in the suburbs of Chicago.  The link between your variety street gang and these muslim groups has been proven with arrest of Jose Padelia(spelling?) after 911.  The drug and illegal gun trade is obviously funding their cause.
Islamic chairities organization in Bridgeview (chicago suburb) was linked with supporting Al Qada.  And a number of area arrests followed.
I remember the day of 911, these pieces of sh$% were dancing in the street in their Bridgeview neiborhood.  It made national news when large numbers of locals demonstrated by driving through this area sporting the American flag(should have also been sporting something else).  I really thought the shit was gonna hit the fan over there.
I like the idea here of paying more attention to these groups.  It really is only a matter of time untill it hits home, AGAIN.

Quoted: No surprise there. Give it a couple of years and we will probably have anti-muslim groups doing the same thing, if we don't already.

Where do I sign up?

What the hell is the "Northeast Intelligence Network"?  

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