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Posted: 2/16/2006 12:34:04 PM EDT
I was rummaging through a box o' crap and uncovered an old model rokcet engine...a C6.

How safe would it be to attach this thing (I was thinking superglue or duct tape) to a dowel rod and light her up?

Then again, there is the return to earth and bonking someone on the head...
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:34:46 PM EDT
Um... I'll hold your beer.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:35:18 PM EDT
i used to tape them to straws, its not too bad
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:35:45 PM EDT
I've done that. They're not very stable.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:36:48 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:39:42 PM EDT
most likley you could not predict where it would go.

if you plan to do this PLEASE use an electronic model rocket ignitor and not a match.
you could have just as much fun by drilling hole half way thru a 4x6 and dropping the engine in it and doing an engine test.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:40:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hk940:

you could have just as much fun by drilling hole half way thru a 4x6 and dropping the engine in it and doing an engine test.



oh, I seriously doubt that
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:42:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:

Originally Posted By hk940:

you could have just as much fun by drilling hole half way thru a 4x6 and dropping the engine in it and doing an engine test.



oh, I seriously doubt that



what do you mean? i am trying to keep him alive and all his shit unburnt. .
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:42:57 PM EDT
I'm waiting for the "Y'all watch this"
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:43:16 PM EDT
super glue about 16" of dowel rod to it, stick 5-6 seconds of fuse in and let 'er rip.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:43:18 PM EDT
We used to build PVC launchers for them. Be sure to wear goggles as the engine might still be burning when it exits the tube.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:50:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hk940:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:

Originally Posted By hk940:

you could have just as much fun by drilling hole half way thru a 4x6 and dropping the engine in it and doing an engine test.



oh, I seriously doubt that



what do you mean? i am trying to keep him alive and all his shit unburnt. .



well, I wasn't factoring in the "alive" part
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:56:51 PM EDT
You could do what that dood did in the compfused vid and stick it in a friends ass and light it while hes laying on his back...
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 12:58:40 PM EDT
I have a pipe about 1 1/4" in dia. and about 3 feet long that will serve nicely as a launching pad.

No wooden dowels. How about i cut up a wire hanger?
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:00:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:
I have a pipe about 1 1/4" in dia. and about 3 feet long that will serve nicely as a launching pad.

No wooden dowels. How about i cut up a wire hanger?



NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!!!!
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:06:36 PM EDT
do you really want to "fly" a lawn dart up to 5 hundred feet or so and let it fall back to earth?
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:08:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hk940:
do you really want to "fly" a lawn dart up to 5 hundred feet or so and let it fall back to earth?



are you worried about the construction of the much feared "abc" weapon?
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:09:01 PM EDT
In the name of science, some risks have to be taken.


Originally Posted By hk940:
do you really want to "fly" a lawn dart up to 5 hundred feet or so and let it fall back to earth?

Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:12:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/16/2006 1:12:36 PM EDT by NSFJojo]
Don't be stupid. You'll need to ignite it electronically as I believe fire DOES NOT work. If you use metal coat hanger remember to wieght the top and have no overhang so that it does not become a projectile. Maybe you should just forget about this and instead make mini flares with post-it notes, fuse, tape and a road flare cut open.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:12:02 PM EDT
Video it and I will host it.

Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:13:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
Don't be stupid. You'll need to ignite it electronically as I believe fire DOES NOT work.



you've never used model rocket engines apparently
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:22:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:
I have a pipe about 1 1/4" in dia. and about 3 feet long that will serve nicely as a launching pad.

No wooden dowels. How about i cut up a wire hanger?



You'll need a dowel if you want a stable flight. The stick on a bottle rocket acts in the same manner as a tail on a kite.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:25:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
Don't be stupid. You'll need to ignite it electronically as I believe fire DOES NOT work.



you've never used model rocket engines apparently



Fire works reliably with black powder engines but not with composites.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:26:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/16/2006 1:26:50 PM EDT by ZitiForBreakfast]

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
Don't be stupid. You'll need to ignite it electronically as I believe fire DOES NOT work.



you've never used model rocket engines apparently



Heck ya, green fuses from local hobby store....Light and run, forget those old grey turn key push button little kid NASA feeling ignitors where the switch has a flah light bulb where you are supposed to be mission command igniting a SATURN III launch vehicle.

Light and Run, light and run.

Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:27:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:

Originally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:
I have a pipe about 1 1/4" in dia. and about 3 feet long that will serve nicely as a launching pad.

No wooden dowels. How about i cut up a wire hanger?



You'll need a dowel if you want a stable flight. The stick on a bottle rocket acts in the same manner as a tail on a kite.



oh great. now he's going to want to strap it to a kite.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:27:44 PM EDT
Normally I'd say don't do it, but since it's you, go right ahead.

Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:36:33 PM EDT
Ought to be fun...use about 2" of green waterproof cannon fuse to light it. Most blackpowder shops (muzzleloaders, etc.) stock the fuse.

Ain't fun if it ain't dangerous!!
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:10:31 PM EDT
Boring. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz put it in a rocket and put as much ffff as it can lift. glue on the nose cone and wahla...ballistic missle
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:13:36 PM EDT
when i was younger, we took a pvc pipe(4' long), taped the eloctronic ignitor to the side of the pipe,ran the wires to the end of the tube, and taped a piece of metal to the end to keep the rocket engine from falling out.

it was a lot of fun. the small rocket engines would go a long ways - even though they weren't inside a rocket.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:13:41 PM EDT
BTDT, dove for cover! Soda straw. It was fun, I'd do it again

aa
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:19:34 PM EDT
Don't use wire for the guide rod. It is too heavy. Voice of experience here.

Use a lightweight dowel, 1/8" hardwood is perfect. Make it 18" long as this has worked for me.



Tape it well to the body of the engine and use a wood kitchen match for the "fuse". Jam it head first into the nozzle . Suspend the rocket in a pipe and light the other end of the match. The flame will hit the head and the rocket will ignite.

I launched some mega salutes using D12-7 engine this way. These were 5 gram flash salutes...lots of fun as they went about 1000 feet before exploding.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:27:34 PM EDT
what ever you do dont crush the body in a vise or roll it on the ground under foot. esp just the center part then put in an ignitor and bury it... it just make make a small crater
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:40:37 PM EDT
Used to do this all the time. A dowel rod works perfectly. By the way, when I was a kid we made a bazooka out of some 8" round duct. Rocket motors taped to sticks were the ammo. Turns out the makers of the motors knew that kids would do this and adjusted the power curve to start slow.
So what ended up happening was the rocket would sputter out of the tube and fall on the ground. It would then go full blast and go off in some crazy direction.
I solved this problem by rigging a device that allowed me to hold the rocket until it was up to full power then release it. Laser beam straight shots. We even put a sight on it. The old man hit me on the head and took it away.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:45:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By clutchsmoke:
Used to do this all the time. A dowel rod works perfectly. By the way, when I was a kid we made a bazooka out of some 8" round duct. Rocket motors taped to sticks were the ammo. Turns out the makers of the motors knew that kids would do this and adjusted the power curve to start slow.
So what ended up happening was the rocket would sputter out of the tube and fall on the ground. It would then go full blast and go off in some crazy direction.
I solved this problem by rigging a device that allowed me to hold the rocket until it was up to full power then release it. Laser beam straight shots. We even put a sight on it. The old man hit me on the head and took it away.



You are not doing it right. You need a bit of 4F blackpowder in the nozzle. We would fill the nozzle level with it, sealing it with a bit of tape, then punching a hole in it with a needle and inserting the ignitor. Seal it with some more tape. For some reason, electric ignitors work best. Anyhow, you need to seal the tube so the 4F acts like a booster charge to launch the rocket. Yes, there was some recoil.

We made special rockets for this. Three thin cardboard strips were the guidance for the rocket.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:48:27 PM EDT
Wicks work.


Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
Don't be stupid. You'll need to ignite it electronically as I believe fire DOES NOT work.



you've never used model rocket engines apparently

Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:51:52 PM EDT
Darwin Awards are made here
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:54:35 PM EDT
A brass rod works well. A C also has plenty of space for BB's that are ejected by the parachute charge. If you use a staging motor, a nice charge of powder will produce an excellent bang.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:55:03 PM EDT
had a supply of engines but got tired of chasing them... glued fins on the outside of the body- straw and made a nose cone- flew damn far.. scrape clay off top and fill with 4f for some more fun...

roth
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 3:08:06 PM EDT
OOohh...I like the way you think. All I have is 2f on hand though.


Originally Posted By NUCdt04:
had a supply of engines but got tired of chasing them... glued fins on the outside of the body- straw and made a nose cone- flew damn far.. scrape clay off top and fill with 4f for some more fun...

roth

Link Posted: 2/16/2006 3:54:12 PM EDT
Video it cause you will be on America's Funniest Video competing for $10,000.00

And will be laughing OAO.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 4:20:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maxwell71:
Darwin Awards are made here



sig line material right there, noobie.....
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 4:21:29 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 4:34:49 PM EDT
Did it all the time, glue a marble over the end and slap a 24"dowel on the side & light it off.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 4:39:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:

No wooden dowels.



Go to home depot or a crafts store.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 4:50:21 PM EDT
I treid that when I was 12. I taped one to a wooden yard stick and launched it out of my bedroom window. It flew up a little ways then down into the vacant lot across the street from our house. It then ignited the dry grass where it landed.

I grabbed a bucked of water ran over to try to put it out, by then it spread in a circle about 10 feet wide. One of the neighbor came running over with his door mat and started beating it out. We finally got it put out. He gave me a long lecture about playing with illegal fireworks.

Hell of a way to meet the neighbors. We had only been living there for 3 weeks.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:19:53 PM EDT
Here is what I have done:

1.Make nozzle larger
2. Insert cannon fuse
3. Insert into launcher (PVC tube)
4. FIRE IN THE HOLE


I did this in the middle of town and no complaints, I did start a pile of pine needles on fire though.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:30:54 PM EDT
Been there, done that.

We used to make missiles out of them.

I didn't use streamers. Much easier to find if you just glued the nosecone on. The'd just drive themselves into the ground.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:34:13 PM EDT
I know there's something fun to be done with this engine and some Tannerite . . .
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:38:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:
I was rummaging through a box o' crap and uncovered an old model rokcet engine...a C6.

How safe would it be to attach this thing (I was thinking superglue or duct tape) to a dowel rod and light her up?

Then again, there is the return to earth and bonking someone on the head...



done it tons of times . tape a #12 onto a dowl and tape a bunch of other fire works onto it interconnecting the fuses and light that sucker .

688
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:39:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:41:31 PM EDT
Make some fins and stabilizers for it.............
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