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Posted: 2/12/2006 5:39:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/13/2006 11:27:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 11:30:05 AM EDT by Lockedon]
interesting. I've never heard of them before.

Found this

hmm....seems like a good idea. Thanks for pointing it out.

DAMN H&K with their proprietary rail!!! Looks like I might have to throw it on the 5.7
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 11:27:43 AM EDT
I have used them. We sell a ton of them at work too. For the money, its a great light. I think I will be buying one very soon. I need something to hang on my home defence gun.
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So do these really do run at 65 lumens on LEDs out of the box??



Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By CFII:
I have used them. We sell a ton of them at work too. For the money, its a great light. I think I will be buying one very soon. I need something to hang on my home defence gun.



thats what i was hoping to hear. i ordered one last night for my nightstand pistol. i needed a decent light but really didn't want to drop 150.00 on one. the one i got was 54.00 shipped. hopefully it will do the trick.




link please?
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Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
So do these really do run at 65 lumens on LEDs out of the box??



Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By CFII:
I have used them. We sell a ton of them at work too. For the money, its a great light. I think I will be buying one very soon. I need something to hang on my home defence gun.



thats what i was hoping to hear. i ordered one last night for my nightstand pistol. i needed a decent light but really didn't want to drop 150.00 on one. the one i got was 54.00 shipped. hopefully it will do the trick.




link please?



this is the place i ordered from. keep in mind i know absolutely nothing about this company and don't endorse them. it was just the best price i found so i ordered from them. if you order do so at your own risk.

www.popguns.com/ledwave/Z5.htm



POPGUNS is a pretty good store.
Lots of cops run that store and, IIRC, the owner capped a few bad guys years ago.
Bruthas tried to rob a gun store.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 11:44:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
Looks like an M3 clone for about half the price. Given the cost I'm inclined to grab one and try it out. Someone needs to take one for the arfcom team, right?



i'll suck it up and post the review when i get mine in.


If it blows up, make sure you post pics!


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I have one on my storm, good light for the price (cost me $69). I could not see spending $200 or more for a gun that cost $500. I however have not shot the gun with the light on as of yet.

See below links for pics.

home.comcast.net/~duratuss/storm1.jpg
home.comcast.net/~duratuss/storm2.jpg
home.comcast.net/~duratuss/storm3.jpg
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 2:29:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 2:30:09 PM EDT by JC_Conn]
reposted from here: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=23&t=24066

I ordered two of these lights (Z-5) a while ago and was extremely disappointed with the performance.

I mounted one light on a Glock 22 -- the fit to the rail was extremely tight and I spent some time filing/fitting the light on the rail.

I mounted the second light on a Mossberg 590 using a Streamlight mounting adapter. Once again, an extremely tight fight.

On both weapons, the fit was tight enough that considerable force was required to mount both lights, and both hands (and a foot) were required to remove the lights from the rails.

This was not the most disappointing aspect of the lights. Randomly, both of the lights would not activate when the switch was depressed. Usually, a sharp slap was required to get the light to come on. I believe this resulted from a poor fit of the backplate on the light combined with molding flash on the body of the light that prevented the bulb assembly/bezel from completely seating on the body of the light. Because of these manufacturing issues, the electrical contacts were intermittant.

Furthermore, the light would not stay ON under recoil on either the Glock 22 or the Mossberg 590. In fact, on both weapons, the recoil would cause the lights to go off AND NOT COME BACK ON WHEN THE SWITCH WAS DEPRESSED. The remedy to this was to remove the backplate and reseat the batteries.

I compared this behavior to my Streamlight M3 and M6 illuminators and neither of them exhibited either of those characteristics (turning off under recoil, not turning back on).

So, some conclusions:

1. Cheap construction. Poor quality control.
2. Functional issues that could result in severe tactical disadvantage.
3. Bigger than an M3 or X200 so finding holsters is IMPOOSIBLE (outside of custom rigs).

My recommendations: They would work well for airsoft toys, but not for serious fighting weapons. My two units are sitting in a box somewhere if anyone wants them. I'll cut you a hell of a deal!


Jeremy

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One dude says it sux, the other says it's GTG.

I'm looking at a couple, too...IIRC, isn't there an M3 adaptor for the HK USPc? Anybody know?
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good deal I just read this. I was ready to order one also.
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So the light isn't the greatest but it sounds like popguns did ya right.

You're happy with them at least, right?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:35:25 AM EDT
tag


59 bucks isn't too bad


if I get shitty one, it gets replaced? sounds like a win win
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:40:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:02:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rob78:
tag


59 bucks isn't too bad


if I get shitty one, it gets replaced? sounds like a win win



Unless you need it to help you survive a lethal confrontation.

If your life could conceivably depend on the thing, buy a Surefire.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:26:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:47:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By rob78:
tag


59 bucks isn't too bad


if I get shitty one, it gets replaced? sounds like a win win



Unless you need it to help you survive a lethal confrontation.

If your life could conceivably depend on the thing, buy a Surefire.



I understand what you're saying and I agree, but I've also got an A2 by the bed that I'm very familiar with.

if the cheapy failed I've still got light. For 59 bucks a decent light backed by a great distributor isn't bad at all.
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