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Posted: 2/12/2006 5:19:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/12/2006 5:46:50 PM EDT by 95thFoot]
UN inquiry demands immediate closure of Guantanamo
By Con Coughlin, Defence and Security Editor in New York
(Filed: 13/02/2006)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/13/wguan13.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_13022006

A United Nations inquiry has called for the immediate closure of America's Guantanamo Bay detention centre and the prosecution of officers and politicians "up to the highest level" who are accused of torturing detainees.

The UN Human Rights Commission report, due to be published this week, concludes that Washington should put the 520 detainees on trial or release them.


The Red Cross monitors the centre at Guantanamo monthly
It calls for the United States to halt all "practices amounting to torture", including the force-feeding of inmates who go on hunger strike.

The report wants the Bush administration to ensure that all allegations of torture are investigated by US criminal courts, and that "all perpetrators up to the highest level of military and political command are brought to justice".

It does not specify who it means by "political command" but logically this would include President George W Bush.

The demands are contained in the final report of the commission's working group on arbitrary detention, which will be presented at its Geneva headquarters in the next few days. A copy of the report has been obtained exclusively by The Daily Telegraph.

The report is bound to intensify the already strained relations between the US and the UN over the Iraq war.

Washington officials yesterday denounced it as "a hatchet job" when informed of the contents by this newspaper.

"This shows precisely what is wrong with the United Nations today," said a senior official. "These people are supposed to be undertaking a serious investigation of the facts relating to Guantanamo.

"Instead, they deliver a report with a bunch of old allegations from lawyers representing released detainees that are so generalised that you cannot even tell what they are talking about.

"When the UN produces an unprofessional hatchet job like this it discredits the whole organisation."

The Bush administration has repeatedly called for the UN's wholesale reform, and the report is likely to lead to demands from Congress for a freeze on Washington's annual donations.

The authors question the right of America to classify the detainees as "enemy combatants" and argue that the "war on terror" is no justification for holding them indefinitely without charge.

The report is also deeply critical of the US over recent disclosures that some of the detainees have been subjected to force-feeding when they have gone on hunger strike.

The authors argue that force-feeding is akin to torture, and demands that "the authorities in Guantanamo Bay do not force-feed any detainee who is capable of forming a rational judgment and is aware of the consequences of refusing food."

But US officials refuted the suggestion that force-feeding is torture, arguing that they had a duty under international law to protect the lives of the detainees.

"We have a duty to prevent people killing themselves," said an official, "and we are proud of the fact that none of the detainees held at Guantanamo Bay has died since it opened."

The Guantanamo Bay detention centre was adapted to hold hundreds of al-Qa'eda fighters captured during the 2001 war in Afghanistan to overthrow the Taliban.

More than 750 detainees have been processed by the facility during the past four years.

After interrogation by US intelligence officers, some have been released and others returned to their country of origin.

Because the al-Qa'eda fighters do not wear uniforms and have no allegiance to any government they are not covered by the Geneva Conventions.

And while there is insufficient evidence to charge most of the 520 detainees with war crimes, the US insists on the right to detain them to prevent them returning to the battlefield to carry out further attacks against the coalition.

There have already been at least 12 instances where released Guantanamo detainees have resumed attacks against the coalition.

US officials are also prepared to return detainees to their home countries, assuming those countries are prepared to receive them and that they will not be subjected to torture on their return.

While American officials are prepared to concede that there are conflicting interpretations over how the laws governing international conflict should be applied, they are furious at the way the investigation was conducted, especially the evidence that the four "special rapporteurs" who compiled the report have used to reach their conclusions.

Although Washington invited the group to visit Guantanamo at the end of last year to inspect the facility, the rapporteurs rejected the invitation after American officials made it clear that they would not be allowed to meet the detainees.

"They [the rapporteurs] were offered the same access as congressmen responsible for overseeing the facility, but they declined to take up the offer," said a government official. "And then they complain that they had no access to doctors or guards - all of which they were offered."

The Bush administration also challenges whether it is the responsibility of a body such as the UN Human Rights Commission to investigate Guantanamo.

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the internationally recognised body responsible for monitoring detention facilities, visits Guantanamo on a monthly basis.

10 February 2006: Tough US tactics end hunger strike
22 September 2005: Ex-Guantanamo prisoners fight on

Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:19:56 PM EDT
State Dept to UN: "GFY!"
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:20:31 PM EDT
Aw, its cute that they try to tell us what to do.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:21:26 PM EDT
Fuck the UN.
They should be happy we haven't thrown their sorry asses out of here.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:21:56 PM EDT
ChiefPilot sez: Suck it!
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:22:04 PM EDT
I say "Fuck off UN, and move to France!"
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:22:11 PM EDT
Bet Jorge is quaking in his boots and will not sleep tonight
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:22:41 PM EDT
I say: EAT SHIT!
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:24:23 PM EDT
gus to UN: "Blow me."
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:24:47 PM EDT
The laugh of it is, if someone, say, a skinhead group kidnapped Khofi Annan and held him, what would the UN do? Let's further suppose the UN security people (whatever they may be) caught one of the group, and was asking questions and he just sat there and grinned at them. What would they eventually do? (You see what I'm leading up to?)
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:26:50 PM EDT
Memo to UN...

Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:29:07 PM EDT
I sez to close the UN.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:30:34 PM EDT

UN sez: close Gitmo



Like hell we will.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:31:18 PM EDT
I second Larry's motion. Close the UN instead. That could be valuable property that needs to be developed.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:31:47 PM EDT

UN sez: close Gitmo


Brians_45 sez "GO FUCK YOURSELF"
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:33:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:35:09 PM EDT
Dear UN,


SUCK MY AMERICAN BALLS! DOUCHEBAGS!


NYC-M4
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:43:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/12/2006 5:44:14 PM EDT by 82ndAbn]
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:45:48 PM EDT
I went to club gitmo and all I got was a blow job from some naked ugly Chick get pregnant by one of the 93 guys that fucked her.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:48:06 PM EDT

"This shows precisely what is wrong with the United Nations today," said a senior official. "These people are supposed to be undertaking a serious investigation of the facts relating to Guantanamo.

"Instead, they deliver a report with a bunch of old allegations from lawyers representing released detainees that are so generalised that you cannot even tell what they are talking about.


"What did the five fingers say to the face?"
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 5:56:38 PM EDT
This thread needs a classic.

www.stickdeath.com/qcamup.html
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 6:27:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 6:31:51 PM EDT
Nothing to worry about. If a Dem gets in office in 2009, they will close Gitmo to appease the angry masses and to stop the ugly US from picking on the poor, unfortunate political bombers.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 6:38:33 PM EDT
Awww, that's so cute. Kinda like when my 2 year-old tells me "NO"! I say we give that about the same level of respect.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 6:40:22 PM EDT
Hmm.......how best to phrase this.....

I know.

No. Wait. Can't say that.

Guess I'll just add a +1 to "blow me"
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 6:42:47 PM EDT

"practices amounting to torture", including the force-feeding of inmates who go on hunger strike.



Oh noes!!!!! How could they???!!
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 6:45:00 PM EDT
OMFG! The horror! Force-feeding of prisoners who are on hunger strike! How inhuman! How evil! How terrible! I can't imagine anything worse! Except perhaps for being forced to listen to Eminem.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 6:49:56 PM EDT

UN inquiry demands immediate closure of Guantanamo




Who is going to make us!!
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 6:52:20 PM EDT

UN sez: close Gitmo


Zaphod sez: close the UN.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:36:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

UN sez: close Gitmo


Zaphod sez: close the UN.



I guess great minds think the same.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:40:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
I went to club gitmo and all I got was a blow job from some naked ugly Chick get pregnant by one of the 93 guys that fucked her.



I see your taste in wimmenz is improving.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 9:15:56 PM EDT
The UN can get fucked!
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 8:52:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
I went to club gitmo and all I got was a blow job from some naked ugly Chick get pregnant by one of the 93 guys that fucked her.



I see your taste in wimmenz is improving.

Just what I let them do to me
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:37:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Slotback:
I second Larry's motion. Close the UN instead. That could be valuable property that needs to be developed.



+1000
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:40:20 AM EDT
Fuck off, UN.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:54:06 AM EDT
US out of the UN!!

UN out of the US!!!!!!
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:55:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 11:06:42 AM EDT
Interesting...
Traveling to Cuba, then complaining about the American jails...ok.
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