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Posted: 2/9/2006 5:39:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/10/2006 3:28:54 PM EDT by 1Andy2]
So, I was in the shop making another set of handguards for my AR. At this point I was routing out the two halves to make the center hole.

I had the router set up in a table (essentially making it a shaper) and I was running the peices over the bit from left to right. I was doing most of the pushiong with my left hand while my right hand kept the peice straight.

Apparently, this is not a safe practice.

Three novocaine shots later, I get to watch the ER doc run a fish hook through the tip of my middle finger with 3-0 silk.

Thank God there are not large chunks of flesh missing or any broken bones. Finger nail is pretty much gone and the tip is mangled, but not too badly (finger nail actually protected it from most of the heavyy damage!).

I will, of course, post pics tomorrow when I change the dressing.

That is all.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:41:39 PM EDT
nice.

use a push stick next time
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:42:59 PM EDT
Glad it is "merely a flesh wound".

And like he said, two words, "PUSH STICK".
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:43:20 PM EDT
Oops?
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:44:52 PM EDT
Don't ask me to test that rifle for you when it's done

Glad you still got your digit
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:45:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
So, I was in the shop making another set of handguards for my AR. At this point I was routing out the two halves to make the center hole.

I had the router set up in a table (essentially making it a shaper) and I was running the peices over the bit from left to right. I was doing most of the pushiong with my left hand while my right hand kept the peice straight.

Apparently, this is not a safe practice.

Three novocaine shots later, I get to watch the ER doc run a fish hook through the tip of my middle finger with 3-0 silk.

Thank God there are not large chunks of flesh missing or any broken bones. Finger nail is pretty much gone and the tip is mangled, but not too badly (finger nail actually protected it from most of the heavyy damage!).

I will, of course, post pics tomorrow when I change the dressing.

That is all.




Sweet! Lots of puss I hope
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:46:54 PM EDT
I think I'll save the pictures till lunch time!
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:47:45 PM EDT
Ouch! At least you didn't lose it completely!!
Had a few "too close" calls myself. I should not be alive.


Glad your gonna be ok!
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:48:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cavu:
Glad it is "merely a flesh wound".

And like he said, two words, "PUSH STICK".

Thats a stick designed for pushing, DO NOT USE YOUR STICK TO PUSH IT
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:48:32 PM EDT
I was running some stock through a shaper one time. the bit caught the wood a ripped it through super fast. then the tip of my finger started to hurt. I grabbed it with my other hand and held it tight behind my back. I bet it was about 15-20 minuted before I had the nerve to look at my finger.


When I did lucky it was just took about 1/16" deep chunk of my finger tip with it. Hurt like hell and have a small scare now.

Glad you kept your finger like I did.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:50:42 PM EDT
don't worry it'll buff out..

Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:51:19 PM EDT
Be glad, very glad, that you did not get any bone. Don't ask me how I know. I also know which finger has the most nerve endings in it too!
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:53:01 PM EDT
On a serious note my dad did that with a shaper and had to have a hand surgeon put his index and middle fingers back together. that was quite a few years ago and he is finally able to bend his fingers all the way down.

Get well soon bro and learn from your mistakes.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:54:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cavu:
Glad it is "merely a flesh wound".

And like he said, two words, "PUSH STICK".
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Thats a stick designed for pushing, DO NOT USE YOUR STICK TO PUSH IT


so, one more time. just to be sure. I should not use my dick to push work pieces through power machinery? Cause, you know, you have to be certain about these things.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:54:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/9/2006 5:58:16 PM EDT by 1Andy2]

Originally Posted By mjrowley:
I was running some stock through a shaper one time. the bit caught the wood a ripped it through super fast. then the tip of my finger started to hurt. I grabbed it with my other hand and held it tight behind my back. I bet it was about 15-20 minuted before I had the nerve to look at my finger.


When I did lucky it was just took about 1/16" deep chunk of my finger tip with it. Hurt like hell and have a small scare now.

Glad you kept your finger like I did.



Same thing happened here. Bit caught the wood and ripped it out from under my hand.

You better believe I'm going to use a push stick next time.

eta: Heh and I wasn't even thinking about using 'ole Hickory Dickory... (shiver) just had shrinkage thinking sbout that!
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:55:45 PM EDT
try buffing it out....or maybe not, you don't seem to be having any luck with the power tools right now
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:03:07 PM EDT
They have this new-fangled thing called a fence. You should get one.

I used to work with this old cabinet maker. He'd always put his hands down on the table and spread his fingers before starting the saw. After seeing him do this several times I asked him what he was doing. Said he was counting his fingers. He said if you can't concentrate enough to count ten fingers it was time to do something else for a while. That one goes right up there with my dad saying, "I wouldn't do that if I were you."
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:12:11 PM EDT
I was using a fence.



My right hand was helping to push the peice against the fence.

but yeah this was a bonehead move on my part. I was a little tired and I wasn't being as careful as I should have.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:13:33 PM EDT
tag for pics
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:16:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Three novocaine shots later, I get to watch the ER doc run a fish hook through the tip of my middle finger with 3-0 silk.




3-0 silk for a fingertip? Yikes. I presume Doc-Mart had a blue light special?


Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:21:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:23:30 PM EDT
Is that red stuff on the bit your life-juices or just paint?
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:26:05 PM EDT
CISCO or Juniper?

G
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:50:04 PM EDT
push stick?
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:54:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MagKnightX:
Is that red stuff on the bit your life-juices or just paint?



lol. paint. thats an old pic.

Though I did check the bit after I got back home for bits of me. None to be found... woulda made a great pic!
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 5:27:26 AM EDT
Good God, that picture made me queasy!
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 5:48:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cavu:
Glad it is "merely a flesh wound".

And like he said, two words, "PUSH STICK".



Yep. Saw the thread title and immediately thought "Push Sticks"!
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 6:10:29 AM EDT
They are unforgiving. 20 to 30000 rpm and it will rip the work out of your hands and your finger is in the wrong place very quickly. Use a vise, use a clamp, use a push stick, look at every scenario that can grab the work and take a finger.

For me it was a biscuit cutter. A 1.5" deep gash, almost to the bone in my thumb. I washed it, steristripped it, duct taped it, and got back to work.

There is no time to bleed in wildearp's shop.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 6:13:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/10/2006 6:14:02 AM EDT by wildearp]

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
I was using a fence.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/1andy2/IMAG0425.jpg

My right hand was helping to push the peice against the fence.

but yeah this was a bonehead move on my part. I was a little tired and I wasn't being as careful as I should have.



Your pic shows a bad setup. Too much of that bit is exposed, which will guarantee kickback. You should use a slotted guard and make several passes to get to the depth you have shown. Maybe you were doing this, but just looking at that pic makes me cringe.

Featherboard is another good thing. It holds the work against the fence, allowing your push sticks to work more efficiently. With a taller fence, you can put a featherboard on top to hold the work down too.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 6:18:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wildearp:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
I was using a fence.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/1andy2/IMAG0425.jpg

My right hand was helping to push the peice against the fence.

but yeah this was a bonehead move on my part. I was a little tired and I wasn't being as careful as I should have.



Your pic shows a bad setup. Too much of that bit is exposed, which will guarantee kickback. You should use a slotted guard and make several passes to get to the depth you have shown. Maybe you were doing this, but just looking at that pic makes me cringe.

Featherboard is another good thing. It holds the work against the fence, allowing your push sticks to work more efficiently. With a taller fence, you can put a featherboard on top to hold the work down too.




BIG +1 ! Beat me to it, was just gonna suggest using a featherboard. They're a HUGE headache saver.

Link Posted: 2/10/2006 6:57:05 AM EDT
Yup,pics.....pics needed.......we need pics.....take pics now.....
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 3:27:09 PM EDT
yeah, I was making multiple passes and raising the height of the bit slightly each time.

Good idea in the featherboard and a hold down piece. That'll be part of my next try.

As promised, the pics.




Eh, kind of disappointing, I know. Still not what you'd call pretty.

Here's what I was working on when I screwed up.








Link Posted: 2/10/2006 3:32:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 3:35:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Eh, kind of disappointing, I know. Still not what you'd call pretty.



Cool! Thanks.

As I said above, I use a router most weekends. I have commented many times how much I hope to avoid contact with the bit--and the steps I take to avoid same. My wife just looked at your pics and I'm guessing by her reaction it will help with her new diet she started last week. Thanks!

Your piece looks great though--VERY nice work.



AWESOME pics (of the work, not your wounds )

I'd love to have an AR-15 with real wood furniture...
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 3:35:34 PM EDT
Ouch! That thing is going to be a hurting tomorrow morning.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 3:41:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Ouch! That thing is going to be a hurting tomorrow morning.



You know, it was odd when I tried to slice off the tip of my thumb with the bandsaw, it didn't hurt at all the next day (or few weeks). I was incredibly shocked by that, but hey...I wasn't complaining at that point.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 4:35:58 PM EDT


Damn, man... clean up all that blood!
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 4:39:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/1andy2/IMAG0171.jpg

Damn, man... clean up all that blood!



lol, its smushed vitamins...

btw, Ironwood designs makes vietnam era wood AR furniture.

And I'll be offering some for sale some time this year. That was my new years resolution anyways... I think I just came up with another resolution. Keep all my body parts together...
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