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Posted: 2/8/2006 3:40:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 4:06:09 PM EDT by BadCompany]
On pdf.


on second thought maybe not.


Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:42:20 PM EDT
You couldn't spell it right in the thread title even though you had the correct spelling in the link?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:50:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
You couldn't spell it right in the thread title even though you had the correct spelling in the link?

I'm just here to look pretty. I don't type.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:53:58 PM EDT
How about we don't provide links that go to theft of copyrighted material?

It's just a guess, but I'd bet that John Ross hasn't put his book out in pdf format for anyone who wants it to download it free of charge.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:56:19 PM EDT
I don't like clicking on stuff that I have no idea what it's about (because I'm lazy).

Cliffs notes anyone?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:58:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/9/2006 2:21:16 PM EDT by pale_pony]

Originally Posted By BadCompany:
On pdf.
ooh, shi'ite sorry...If you haven't read it, you should and can now.



I'm sure you mean well by doing this, but I'd can this thread quick while you still have an account intact.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:01:44 PM EDT
lots of other goodies too, assuming you just want an electronic copy of something you already own.
I already own Unintended Consequences
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:08:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pale_pony:

Originally Posted By BadCompany:
On pdf.


If you haven't read it, you should and can now.



I'm sure you mean well by doing this, but I'd can this thread quick while you still have an account intact.

I'll snoop into this and see if it's legit. Sorry for the snafu.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:36:51 PM EDT
I downloaded a copy months ago because Customs keeps seizing my copies..... apaprently my previous government thought it might give us ideas or soemthign
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 5:22:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
I'm sure you mean well by doing this, but I'd can this thread quick while you still have an account intact.



Perhaps you should edit your quote to remove the link.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 5:38:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
I downloaded a copy months ago because Customs keeps seizing my copies..... apaprently my previous government thought it might give us ideas or soemthign



Honestly? They were seizing them?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 5:40:33 PM EDT
Can someone please tell me what this thread is about? i don't understand any of this.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 5:42:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
I downloaded a copy months ago because Customs keeps seizing my copies..... apaprently my previous government thought it might give us ideas or soemthign



Honestly? They were seizing them?



Yes, by ALL means please EXPLAIN
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 5:46:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NonConformist:

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
I downloaded a copy months ago because Customs keeps seizing my copies..... apaprently my previous government thought it might give us ideas or soemthign



Honestly? They were seizing them?



Yes, by ALL means please EXPLAIN



What is there to explain? Canada is a Socialist shithole.

<-------Unfortunately still has to go back if he wants to visit relatives.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 5:52:33 PM EDT
Buy the book. Read it. Share it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 5:53:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ArmedAndRetarded:
Can someone please tell me what this thread is about? i don't understand any of this.



An apt name?

Unintended Consequences is a book. The original poster gave a link to a PDF copy of the book (illegally infringing upon the author's copyright).
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 5:59:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NonConformist:

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
I downloaded a copy months ago because Customs keeps seizing my copies..... apaprently my previous government thought it might give us ideas or soemthign



Honestly? They were seizing them?



Yes, by ALL means please EXPLAIN



Canada has a banned book list, yup those "free thinking" liberal socialists up north maintain a list of banned books
no idea if UC is officially on the list

found this though
www.john-ross.net/u_c_faq.htm

Didn’t I hear Unintended Consequences was banned in Canada? Why?

This is partly true. There were cases where Canadian customs agents were confiscating copies at the border (they have the authority to do this) and my publisher got fed up to the point that they no longer ship this title to Canada. As to why, don’t forget that Canada is a socialist country. You may think of them as a sort of arctic Nebraska, but they do not have a Constitution and Bill of Rights like we do. They have socialized medicine and they ban books.

Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:06:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sharky30:

Originally Posted By NonConformist:

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
I downloaded a copy months ago because Customs keeps seizing my copies..... apaprently my previous government thought it might give us ideas or soemthign



Honestly? They were seizing them?



Yes, by ALL means please EXPLAIN



Canada has a banned book list, yup those "free thinking" liberal socialists up north maintain a list of banned books
no idea if UC is officially on the list

found this though
www.john-ross.net/u_c_faq.htm

Didn’t I hear Unintended Consequences was banned in Canada? Why?

This is partly true. There were cases where Canadian customs agents were confiscating copies at the border (they have the authority to do this) and my publisher got fed up to the point that they no longer ship this title to Canada. As to why, don’t forget that Canada is a socialist country. You may think of them as a sort of arctic Nebraska, but they do not have a Constitution and Bill of Rights like we do. They have socialized medicine and they ban books.






pretty much exactly what he siad, i don't know if it is "officially" banned, but Customs can do whatever they want, whih is why they seized 2 magazines on their way to me, that was a fight to get back, at least they told me they had them.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:47:14 AM EDT
Britain and, by derivation, Canada has no 1st Amendment. In the UK, many books are banned. Canadaian law is derived from British law. Unless changed (yeah, like they will make the effort to better things), they can ban whatever they like. They say they have certain rights, and they do, but they are only what the governemnt lets you hvae for the time being, without the inconvenience of a pesky written Constitution. That's why the liberals are trying so hard to wrap a wall of phony paper (legal findings and interpretations) around ours.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:50:12 AM EDT
I have a deep and dark secret.................

I got half way through it and and gave up.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:53:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Buy the book. Read it. Share it.


Like "Red Dawn," it is overrated by the ARFCOM collective.

"Enemies Foreign and Domestic," however, that is a mighty fine read. One of the best books I've ever read.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:55:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/9/2006 6:59:42 AM EDT by mr_wilson]

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
I have a deep and dark secret.................

I got half way through it and and gave up.



Not surprised at that, given the lack of reading skill in our country, most folks simply take a look at the size of it and say" no-way".

Sad though the piss poor state of reading.

FWIW, I sold several cases of UC and still have my personal autographed copy which I've read more than a few times.

Mike

ETA - have to disagree w/ Wobblin above, while I have read EF&D, (more than once) it is "fiction" and while UC is too classified as "fiction" you'll find plenty of historical FACT in UC, making it a more worthwhile choice IMO.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 7:03:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 7:20:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Buy the book. Read it. Share it.


Like "Red Dawn," it is overrated by the ARFCOM collective.

"Enemies Foreign and Domestic," however, that is a mighty fine read. One of the best books I've ever read.



I also liked Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matt Braken (spelling?) the best. It was his first book, he was posting here when it came out!
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 10:29:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TimJ:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Like "Red Dawn," it is overrated by the ARFCOM collective.

"Enemies Foreign and Domestic," however, that is a mighty fine read. One of the best books I've ever read.


Goblin, please keep my copy of "Enemies" for your personal collection then, or pass it on to a deserving reader. I didn't enjoy it half as much as "UC".


You don't have to do that, Tim. I appreciate the offer, though.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 10:43:54 AM EDT
Well, speaking as someone who's bought and given away about a dozen copies of UC, I'm quite grateful to BadCompany for letting me read it while my hardcover copies are in storage 8000 miles away.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 10:51:02 AM EDT
I could not bring myself to finish this book. It could have been much shorter and still told the same story. And he sometimes gave way too much information about stuff like car engines or what not.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 10:55:44 AM EDT
Unlike the original posted link, this one is legal and proper: Enemies Foreign & Domestic online chapters


Close to being as good as UC. The author sez that the sequel will come out later this year.

Having read UC several times, I find it amazing that there are gun owners out there who haven't. It is every AR owners' wet dream.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 11:47:47 AM EDT
.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 12:10:03 PM EDT
anyone have a copy they'd like to lend a brotha? I'm closing in on "A bridge too far" :)
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 12:13:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TimJ:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Like "Red Dawn," it is overrated by the ARFCOM collective.

"Enemies Foreign and Domestic," however, that is a mighty fine read. One of the best books I've ever read.




Goblin, please keep my copy of "Enemies" for your personal collection then, or pass it on to a deserving reader.







I'll take it!!
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 12:24:07 PM EDT
Interesting story, but John Ross isn't a very good writer and he desperately needed an editor.

Overrated, IMHO.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 12:45:51 PM EDT
I thought UC was a good book. Enemies:F&D is another good one. Vin Suprynowicz's The Black Arrow is in the same genre, although a bit more Zoro-ish.

www.libertybookshop.us/mall/The-Black-Arrow.htm

Link Posted: 2/9/2006 1:15:00 PM EDT
I liked UC. However, I agree that it was probably twice as long as it needed to be, if not more.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 2:00:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
I have a deep and dark secret.................

I got half way through it and and gave up.

You should be banned from ARFCOM!I could'nt put it down on first read.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 2:10:09 PM EDT
+1 John Ross needed an editor or a better editor. Still a good read and compelling story. I just found myself skipping 10 pages at a time to get back to the story.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 2:16:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/10/2006 4:41:43 AM EDT by GySgtD]


Now for a really sucky novel that was hyped too much, read Boston T. Party's Molon Labe. Boring and unentertaining.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 2:25:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
I have a deep and dark secret.................

I got half way through it and and gave up.



So you didn't get to the part with the lesbian sex? Pity.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 2:35:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GySgtD:
+1

Now for a really sucky novel that was hyped too much, read Boston T. Party's Molon Labe. Boring and unentertaining.



More of a how-to -- a very good read if you stick with it to the end.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 2:36:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Nimrod1193:
Interesting story, but John Ross isn't a very good writer and he desperately needed an editor.

Overrated, IMHO.



Amen. 1/3 as long and it would have been a GOOD book.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 3:24:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GySgtD:
Having read UC several times, I find it amazing that there are gun owners out there who haven't. It is every AR owners' wet dream.


Too long and TMI in many places. Some of the material was rated NC-17, too.

That's XXX for you old guys.



EF&D was much better, IMO.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 3:31:55 PM EDT
UC was one of the most blane books I've ever read. Ross's writing style is so boring it almost brings one to tears. I've had a copy on my book case since the early 90s and still havent finished it.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 4:49:39 PM EDT
Interesting note...

The Cleveland Public Library has a copy of UC.

I wanted to read it, and had the local (Athens) library order it....they all do a state-wide book sharing thing.

I figure someone probably donated it.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:26:23 PM EDT
That's weird. I couldn't put UC down once I started reading it but Tom Clancy just puts me to sleep.

Don't know what anybody sees in his books or for that matter Clive Cusslers predictable damn books.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:31:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mr_wilson:

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
I have a deep and dark secret.................

I got half way through it and and gave up.



Not surprised at that, given the lack of reading skill in our country, most folks simply take a look at the size of it and say" no-way".

Sad though the piss poor state of reading.

FWIW, I sold several cases of UC and still have my personal autographed copy which I've read more than a few times.

Mike

ETA - have to disagree w/ Wobblin above, while I have read EF&D, (more than once) it is "fiction" and while UC is too classified as "fiction" you'll find plenty of historical FACT in UC, making it a more worthwhile choice IMO.



Although I do suffer from dyslexia, my reading skills are very sharp. It was the goofy book that that gave me pause. The historical aspects of the book were on the mark, but the "story line" was
amusing at best. I decided to use my time for more constructive endeavors.
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