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Posted: 2/8/2006 6:38:07 AM EDT

ATF Responds to Church Fires

This is just another stunt trying to justify the existance of the ATF.

Shok
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:39:34 AM EDT
Actually, they do more than ATF, they also do E, which is my guess on why they're investigating.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:40:32 AM EDT
ATF is a tax agency. churches are tyax exempt.

ATF is a federal agency. Church arsons may be violations of federal civil rights laws.

ATF is in charge of explosives.firebombings are possible"explosives"
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:41:43 AM EDT
ATF does a lot of arson work and runs some of the best asrson schools around (so I've been told)
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:41:54 AM EDT
<this is too easy>

first hand experience burning churches?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:45:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SouthHoof:
<this is too easy>

first hand experience burning churches?



That was the FBI.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:04:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By SouthHoof:
<this is too easy>

first hand experience burning churches?



That was the FBI.




and so was the atf they started the fbi finished.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:07:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR:
ATF does a lot of arson work and runs some of the best asrson schools around (so I've been told)



The ATF has resources that no Podunk FD or PD can bring to a scene. Even in bigger cities the ATF will be called in to assist in any large dollar loss fires.

They aren't always out to get us.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:07:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By crazyhorse705:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By SouthHoof:
<this is too easy>

first hand experience burning churches?



That was the FBI.




and so was the atf they started the fbi finished.



The ATF was long out of the picture by the time the FBI burned out the Davidians.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:22:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:

Originally Posted By crazyhorse705:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By SouthHoof:
<this is too easy>

first hand experience burning churches?



That was the FBI.




and so was the atf they started the fbi finished.



The ATF was long out of the picture by the time the FBI burned out the Davidians.



ATF was still there, it was a joint operation. And the highlighted was my first thuoght as well.

-Ben
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:26:47 AM EDT
Molotov Cocktail= Destructive Device. ATF has the mission to investigate the use in a crime of an NFA weapon.

Boot the BATF!
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:36:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 10:37:12 AM EDT by bmick325]
They are/were very good at arson and postblast investigations. Much better than the FBI or any local agency in the country IMO.


This is just another stunt trying to justify the existance of the ATF.


THIS JUST IN.

The BATF(E) has only been doing this for about 20-30 years. Glad you finally noticed.

Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:41:09 AM EDT
ATF runs some very good arson investigation schools. They have done these types of investigations for a long time.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:54:05 AM EDT


ATF = Alcohol, Tobacco and Fire

<­BR>

Arms
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:03:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bmick325:
They are/were very good at arson and postblast investigations. Much better than the FBI or any local agency in the country IMO.


This is just another stunt trying to justify the existance of the ATF.


THIS JUST IN.

The BATF(E) has only been doing this for about 20-30 years. Glad you finally noticed.




My experience has been that the arson and licensing folks are ok but the enforcement guys are dicks.

BTW if you are undercover try not having a crewcut and an untucked loose shirt while standing next to another guy dressed the same way.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 7:54:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JIMBEAM:

Originally Posted By bmick325:
They are/were very good at arson and postblast investigations. Much better than the FBI or any local agency in the country IMO.


This is just another stunt trying to justify the existance of the ATF.


THIS JUST IN.

The BATF(E) has only been doing this for about 20-30 years. Glad you finally noticed.




My experience has been that the arson and licensing folks are ok but the enforcement guys are dicks.

BTW if you are undercover try not having a crewcut and an untucked loose shirt while standing next to another guy dressed the same way.



Hell all our Florida members dress that way all the time.
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