Yep, I didn't mention my 2 older Labs, because we were talking about puppys, Toby, and Tater, both 7, Toby weighs about 80lbs, and Tater (female) weighs about 110, she blew up, when we got her fixed, but she still thinks she is little, and wants to get in our bed, I just have to say no, unless the wife is out of town. They may grow older and wiser, but they always think they are puppys. These 2, have outgrown the bad stage, and honestly don't do anything wrong, may sound dumb, but you can talk to them, and they pretty much know exactly what you want them to do. and Toby is one hell of a duck dog, he will go all day, but pay for it the next day, by being sore, but he always wants to go. When he see's me get a gun, to go to the range, he goes nuts, he thinks its huntin' time.