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Posted: 2/6/2006 4:29:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 1:09:38 PM EDT by lippo]
And how much better is the P226 Navy?
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:34:21 PM EDT
i have three P226's. the NAVY the blackwater and the HSP. the 226 is the best handgun i have ever had. next to its brother the 220. the navy isnt that much better then a reg 226. but i think its worth the extra money. i love the 226 navy. but there are a damn good gun.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:37:16 PM EDT
Because Sigs rule!

As long as your sig has a stainless slide you are good to go. The 226 Navy is a great gun.
<------------------Sig kool-aid drinker.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:49:25 PM EDT
I own a P226 and a P220R.

I am rapidly forming the opinion that SIGs may be the best handguns made. They are all metal (which is rare anymore), they are reliable (I read an article where one ran through 10,000 rounds with only 2 malfunctions - both of which were caused by ammo failures), they have a very comfortable grip design, they are very ergonomic and they are also very light for an all metal pistol.

I think you should be asking why you SHOULDN'T get a SIG.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:52:10 PM EDT
Damn. Threads like this make me want to spend some of that Uncle Sam check on another 226 (Maybe a CPO, or a Navy?), or maybe get back into .45 with a 220...
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:53:17 PM EDT
You shouldnt. Dont!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:55:43 PM EDT
1. Because my SIG P226, bought in West Germany in 1990, has over 43,000 rounds through it.
2. It's among the most reliable pistol actions in the world.
3. SIG quality.

What the fuck are you waiting for?
Get that sumbitch NOW!!!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:56:31 PM EDT
Haven't seen a bad one yet. I have well over 30,000 rounds through mine without a single malfunction of any kind. I even use a USA mag(generally considered a POS) most of the time and it feeds, fires and functions 100%. You won't be dissapointed.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:58:22 PM EDT
The Navy is just a regular P226 with anti corrosion coated internals and magazines.
226, 228, 229, 220.......... Me likeeeeee SIGs !!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 4:59:26 PM EDT
Really love mine. Go for it!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:01:48 PM EDT

So how much are the magazines going for?
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:03:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:
So how much are the magazines going for?



$23-$24 for the Mec-Gars 17rd mags. (MG makes the Sig 'factory' mags.)
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:05:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2006 5:06:33 PM EDT by zipper]
WHY YOU ASK,
Well for starters it sure beats a block Glock
Are your hands big enough for the grips?? I had to go with the 229 felt better
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:06:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Damn. Threads like this make me want to spend some of that Uncle Sam check on another 226 (Maybe a CPO, or a Navy?), or maybe get back into .45 with a 220...



DAMMIT! You stole MY idea for a new avatar!!!! YOU BASTARD!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:08:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Because Sigs rule!

As long as your sig has a stainless slide you are good to go. The 226 Navy is a great gun.
<------------------Sig kool-aid drinker.



I hate the stainless slide!!! I prefer the older models, even though they rust like crazy.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:11:13 PM EDT
Because they are the best Double Action pistol made. My P226R 9mm is the most accurate pistol I've shot.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:16:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lu380:
DAMMIT! You stole MY idea for a new avatar!!!! YOU BASTARD!!!!!!!



Do it! There are already a couple of us with that fine avatar.

I don't normally care for SS pistols, but...

Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:17:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Because Sigs rule!

As long as your sig has a stainless slide you are good to go. The 226 Navy is a great gun.
<------------------Sig kool-aid drinker.



There was no reason to keep reading after this post.

It says it all.

HH
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:23:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Because Sigs rule!

As long as your sig has a stainless slide you are good to go. The 226 Navy is a great gun.
<------------------Sig kool-aid drinker.



There was no reason to keep reading after this post.

It says it all.

HH




+1gazillion!
I have a P226 in .40 S&W. I have three Sigs but this one is my favorite. Sigs rule!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:25:30 PM EDT
P226 in 9mm is my favorite non-H&K handgun. Plus, you can get 17 round MecGar mags to make it an 18 round beast.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:32:28 PM EDT
Been searching for a deal on a 228 for carry.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:33:18 PM EDT
Get a P220 instead
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:35:22 PM EDT
I love my P228. Wouldn't trade it for anything, except another sig.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:36:53 PM EDT
I have a P239 for summer carry and two P226s. I really like sigs a lot, but I always tell people to rent before you buy or try a friends. If you shoot it well and like it get it. If not then pass on it. I really like glock 17s but for me the POA/I is off because of the grip angle. That is why I don't have any glocks.

Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:38:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
I own a P226 and a P220R.

I am rapidly forming the opinion that SIGs may be the best handguns made. They are all metal (which is rare anymore),



Mine has a polymer frame. 2340 in .40 and 357SIG. Works fine for me. 226 -is- a great pistol though.

NTM
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:49:42 PM EDT
Speaking of P226s, does anyone know if a P226R will fit in a Safariland 6004/P226? (Obviously, without a light attached.)
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:51:27 PM EDT
why get a 226?

just hold one. that alone will sell you...the rest is gravy
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:02:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Siglite:

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Because Sigs rule!

As long as your sig has a stainless slide you are good to go. The 226 Navy is a great gun.
<------------------Sig kool-aid drinker.



There was no reason to keep reading after this post.

It says it all.

HH




+1gazillion!
I have a P226 in .40 S&W. I have three Sigs but this one is my favorite. Sigs rule!



+1 one more. I have five SIGs (220, 226, 229x2 & 239) and I love them all equally.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:09:38 PM EDT
purchased my first sig, a 226 off of the EE, received it this afternoon....cannot wait to shoot it this weekend...
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:12:30 PM EDT
I'm looking at SIG pistols as well, and trying to decide which one to get.......I want something I can carry in my car or concealed and the P239 in 9mm seems like a good choice, but the 228 is a good one as well...........what model is best for carry?
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:16:38 PM EDT
I just picked up my NIB p228 today! It is the best handgun I've ever owned. I want to get a p226 now as well!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:18:08 PM EDT
I have a P226, and it is an outstanding gun. I like it more than my 1911!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:19:17 PM EDT
Do what the voices are telling you - get the Sig.

Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:48:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cyclone:
I'm looking at SIG pistols as well, and trying to decide which one to get.......I want something I can carry in my car or concealed and the P239 in 9mm seems like a good choice, but the 228 is a good one as well...........what model is best for carry?



The P228 is going to be phased out, with the P229 replacing it. The P229 is pretty much the same, but with a stainless slide, and is a tad heavier.

My CC is a 229R/9mm. Awesome pistol.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:44:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:
Speaking of P226s, does anyone know if a P226R will fit in a Safariland 6004/P226? (Obviously, without a light attached.)



Yes it will. You have to loosen the screw at the bottom though.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:47:10 PM EDT
Of all the handguns I own I carry my SIG P226 and P228 the most.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:24:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Because Sigs rule!

As long as your sig has a stainless slide you are good to go. The 226 Navy is a great gun.
<------------------Sig kool-aid drinker.



There is nothing wrong with the older stamped carbon steel slides. They are very durable. Sig went to stainless steel to cut down on manufacturing costs. The militaries M11(Sig P228) is still a stamped slide, and it is reliable enough for them. There are plenty of older P226s in the SeAL arsenals.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:26:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2006 6:33:21 AM EDT by John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted By lippo:
And how much better is the P226 Navy?



The P226 Navy is a special edition with additional anti-corrosive coatings on the inside of the pistol. Most folks have no need of such a thing.

The P226 is a good 9mm pistol that has proven reliable and durable under all sorts of adverse conditions. They are plenty accurate and they usually have decent triggers to boot.

The P226 is a tad bulky for smaller statured shooters and the trigger reach is sometimes a bit long, but other than that it is a superb weapon. When properly maintained, the weapon should outlast you.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:27:46 AM EDT
Sig simply the best.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:27:51 AM EDT
Don't bother. Get a 229, or preferably a 228 instead. These are more reasonably sized.

Then have somebody do something about the way-too-heavy DA trigger, replace the dot-the-i sights with something useable, and you are on your way to having a decent gun.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:31:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Because Sigs rule!

As long as your sig has a stainless slide you are good to go. The 226 Navy is a great gun.
<------------------Sig kool-aid drinker.



I actually prefer the old style stamped slides myself, but those can rust on you if you aren't careful about maintaining them long term. I got one of my P220s for exactly that reason. The guy bought it, shot it a few times, and didn't store it properly, so a little surface rust ended up on the slide. He tried to get the rust off with polishing compound, but that also removed finish. In disgust, he sold what ammounted to a brand new Sig P220 with only slight cosmetic problems for a song.

I, being the bargain hound that I am, bought it and am very happy with my purchase:



I took it to Blackwater with me for the last handgun class I took. I met a REAL Sig kool-aid drinker from the Chigaco PD who just LOVED Sigs so much that he became an armorer just so he could work on them. He even had a full armorers kit with him and kindly changed out my factory 7 rounders to 8 rounders with upgraded followers, springs, and even the thick aluminum bases you see in the picture. And he did it all for FREE.

That's one of the reasons I train at BW. You meet some of the best people in the world there.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:36:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Don't bother. Get a 229, or preferably a 228 instead. These are more reasonably sized.



I have to disagree. The P229 is also a superb pistol, but a tad wide for my tastes in IWB carry. The P228 is really just a chopped P226, so it is no wider.



Then have somebody do something about the way-too-heavy DA trigger,



Older full sized Sigs did indeed have some hellacious DA triggers. The newer production ones, however, have MUCH improved triggers. Among the best DA triggers you will find on any weapon out there....



replace the dot-the-i sights with something useable,



While not my favorite arrangement (I tend to shoot a bit high with them because I don't align properly in a hurry) they are more than adequate for any conceivable use.



and you are on your way to having a decent gun.



If someone is looking for a decent pistol, just looking at the P226 is a pretty good way of getting a decent gun.

Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:55:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
, replace the dot-the-i sights with something useable, .



True for all Sigs.

Baffles me how Sig could put those useless sights on a quality gun.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:57:22 AM EDT
Mine has 4000 rounds of lead reloads. No failures whatso ever.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:59:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
I have to disagree. The P229 is also a superb pistol, but a tad wide for my tastes in IWB carry. The P228 is really just a chopped P226, so it is no wider.



That's why I said 228 first, since it is a bit slimmer and lighter. The P226 is too big for what it is, IMO.



Older full sized Sigs did indeed have some hellacious DA triggers. The newer production ones, however, have MUCH improved triggers. Among the best DA triggers you will find on any weapon out there....



Define "newer production." Some of the SIGs of recent production I've owned have had the worst triggers of all. The ones made in the late 80s, early 90s have better triggers than any of my recent ones.




If someone is looking for a decent pistol, just looking at the P226 is a pretty good way of getting a decent gun.



The P226 is functional and accurate enough in its stock form but it can definitely be improved upon. I didn't much care for mine and soon sold it, so take my opinions for what they're worth. I still retain a P245, P225, and a P229, and only the latter one has a trigger to complain about.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 7:05:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Don't bother. Get a 229, or preferably a 228 instead. These are more reasonably sized.



I have to disagree. The P229 is also a superb pistol, but a tad wide for my tastes in IWB carry. The P228 is really just a chopped P226, so it is no wider.



Then have somebody do something about the way-too-heavy DA trigger,



Older full sized Sigs did indeed have some hellacious DA triggers. The newer production ones, however, have MUCH improved triggers. Among the best DA triggers you will find on any weapon out there....



replace the dot-the-i sights with something useable,



While not my favorite arrangement (I tend to shoot a bit high with them because I don't align properly in a hurry) they are more than adequate for any conceivable use.



and you are on your way to having a decent gun.



If someone is looking for a decent pistol, just looking at the P226 is a pretty good way of getting a decent gun.


IMHO the size of the 229 isn't that big of a deal for me anyway. I like the robust size particular for a pistol chambered in .357 Sig or .40S&W. Though if you are going 9mm then the 228 would be better than a 229 9mm.

The DA pull on my 229 is like butter. I have some shooting friends who have S&W and Beretta auto's who hate their DA pulls and never practice with it. I can fire every round in the mag in DA and the rounds all hit in the same place. The DA pull on my Ruger was horrible, gritty with lots of take up. The DA pull on Berettas are just really long. The Sig is just right.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 7:06:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
I didn't much care for mine and soon sold it



HERETIC!!!!!!!!!!! BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!1 BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!



Link Posted: 2/7/2006 7:07:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:


The P226 is functional and accurate enough in its stock form but it can definitely be improved upon. I didn't much care for mine and soon sold it, so take my opinions for what they're worth. I still retain a P245, P225, and a P229, and only the latter one has a trigger to complain about.

Link Posted: 2/7/2006 7:20:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
That's why I said 228 first, since it is a bit slimmer and lighter. The P226 is too big for what it is, IMO.



Certainly a valid arguement. The Sig pistols tend to be a bit tough for smaller hands.





Define "newer production." Some of the SIGs of recent production I've owned have had the worst triggers of all. The ones made in the late 80s, early 90s have better triggers than any of my recent ones.



As a man who has handled lots of Sigs, the ones produced in the last 10 years seem to have better DA triggers than previous ones for the most part.





The P226 is functional and accurate enough in its stock form but it can definitely be improved upon. I didn't much care for mine and soon sold it, so take my opinions for what they're worth. I still retain a P245, P225, and a P229, and only the latter one has a trigger to complain about.



Any pistol can benefit from some customization.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 7:21:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
IMHO the size of the 229 isn't that big of a deal for me anyway. I like the robust size particular for a pistol chambered in .357 Sig or .40S&W. Though if you are going 9mm then the 228 would be better than a 229 9mm.

The DA pull on my 229 is like butter. I have some shooting friends who have S&W and Beretta auto's who hate their DA pulls and never practice with it. I can fire every round in the mag in DA and the rounds all hit in the same place. The DA pull on my Ruger was horrible, gritty with lots of take up. The DA pull on Berettas are just really long. The Sig is just right.



Personally I prefer the Beretta 92 in terms of shootability, especially my Langdon customized Berettas.

Best DA trigger you will EVER find on a semi-auto.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 8:02:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Personally I prefer the Beretta 92 in terms of shootability, especially my Langdon customized Berettas.

Best DA trigger you will EVER find on a semi-auto.



Me too. One of my favorite DA/SA autos is a Beretta 96 Compact with the D spring installed and a trigger polish. I wish it were as easy to fix the pull on SIGs.
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