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I just saw a segment on a TV station about a murder plot. An ROP on a temporary visa was being investigated for running a sham business out of his house. It seems like he was buying equipment to manufacture ricin to kill his wife! He is in jail right now and they've got footage of guys in decontamination suits crawling all over the house.
But for some reason, this segment isn't on the station's website yet. I smell a K-O-N-spiracy because they usually have video segments to go along with major stories. |
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I still believe its a covert invasion, they will rise up when they get large enough numbers and attempt to muslimize the world.
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So they're actually from california and ny? |
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Yeah, they usually have them...........the next day |
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Saw that too. But didn't hear that it was one of them. But it makes sense. The 1993 WTC Bombing Trial brought out a translated manuscript dealing specifically with growing, making and using ricin. Bad juju. |
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Then again, I might be seeing a muslim behind every tree. |
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There might be very well be a muslim behind every tree, those burkhas don't look like ninja clothes for nothing, cya (I usually look for the transcripts, they almost always take 24hrs, the "breaking news" about illegals never shows up) |
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An Indian newspaper columnist 'Gets' it' so why can't the West?
ANdy The right to laugh at gods Last week newspapers in France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Switzerland, in a gesture of solidarity with Denmark, reprinted the Danish cartoons that have enraged the Islamic world because one of them depicts the Prophet Mohammad, and any depiction of him is considered blasphemy in Islam. In Paris, the newspaper France Soir added a cartoon of its own of Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim and Christian gods seated on a cloud under a headline saying ‘Yes we Have the Right to Caricature God’. In Europe, from where I write this piece, the controversy made headlines but could have been played down in politically correct Bharatvarsha. So, for those of you who may not have followed the story here is a precis. In September a small Danish newspaper called Jyllands-Posten published 12 cartoons in one of which the Prophet Mohammed was shown wearing a bomb-shaped turban. This caused a furore in the Islamic world and Libya, Saudi Arabia and Syria have withdrawn their ambassadors to Denmark. Many Islamic countries demanded an apology from the Danish government, which has pointed out that in a free society a government cannot apologise on behalf of a newspaper or tell it what to print. As someone often accused of targeting Muslims in this column, I have followed the Danish cartoon controversy with interest. I believe it strikes at the root of the difficulty us infidels face in dealing with Islam and Islamists. Irreverent infidels like me, and there are many of my kind in free societies, believe that religion and the gods must be kept within the realms of literature and even cartoons. I believe the fatwa against Salman Rushdie was an outrage and the murder of Theo Van Gogh an act of barbarism. The Dutch filmmaker was killed in 2004 because he made a film on violence against women in Islamic societies. Is it not time we stood up against Islam’s repeated attempts to impose its will, values and ideas of blasphemy on the rest of us? Is it not time we demanded that Islam retreat to the private sphere it inhabited before the advent of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and Osama bin Laden? Is it not time that the Islamic world recognised that its ideas of blasphemy are different to ours? We infidels can laugh with and at religions and gods and we must stand up for the right to do so. Increasingly, because of the rise of Islamic terrorism, we see Muslims perceive themselves as victims of an international conspiracy to malign them and their religion. At the World Economic Forum’s annual meeting in Davos, two weeks ago, I attended a session on Islam and the World and was surprised that nearly all the panelists expressed a deep sense of grievance. One gentleman of South Asian origin but living in New York said, ‘‘Just look at the way today’s terrorists are described in the international media—as Islamic terrorists. This has never happened before, the IRA were never called Christian terrorists.’’ Maybe not, but we do know of Tamil terrorists. The other grievances expressed were, in my view, equally baseless. One complaint was that the Muslim world was unable to change its image because the Western media did not cooperate in this exercise. Excuse me? The Western media is under no obligation to cooperate but by and large has been so politically correct when it comes to Islam that the riots in the suburbs of Paris were never discussed as ethnic. Every commentator I read was at pains to point out the social and economic reasons why Muslim youths went on a rampage in which private cars and public property were targeted. After the London bombings every effort was made to assure the general public that this was the work of a handful of madmen and had nothing to do with Islam. When Western reporters write about ethnic violence in India, Muslims are always portrayed as victims and efforts made to balance radical Islam with Hindu fundamentalism, an annoyingly unfair comparison. Islam has its Prophet and its book and Muslims have every right to consider them sacred. The Islamic world has the right to ban other religions and their temples from existing on Islamic soil if it so wishes. That is their way. The problem only arises when Islam tries to impose its ideas on those of us who are not Muslim. The concerted attack on the Danish cartoons appropriately resulted in Europe closing ranks behind the Danish newspaper. We must stand up for the right to laugh at the gods, it is a right worth preserving and, besides, this is our way. http://iecolumnists.expressindia.com/full_column.php?content_id=87288 |
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Just don't wear your "I LUV THE IDF" Tee-shirt...
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Yup, and we could do it if THEY weren't CONVINCED that they are our MASTERS Is it not time we stood up against Islam’s repeated attempts to impose its will, values and ideas of blasphemy on the rest of us? Is it not time we demanded that Islam retreat to the private sphere it inhabited before the advent of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and Osama bin Laden? Is it not time that the Islamic world recognised that its ideas of blasphemy are different to ours? We infidels can laugh with and at religions and gods and we must stand up for the right to do so. |
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THEY KEEP TORCHING CONSULATES AND EMBASSIES THEY WONT BE ABLE TO COME OVER! HA@
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That's an excellent point. For every Danish embassy they burn, that's one less country where people will be able to apply for visas in the near future. Thanks, guys!! Keep burning embassies in your shitty countries!! |
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*cynic* They don't want to have a different culture,etc. They just want to be at the other end of the sword. *cynic* |
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The Religion of Peace burnt down multiculturalism today. Liberals around the world panic as one of their sacred cows gets barbecued.
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You people really are insane. You honestly believe a group of people, any group of people, acts with a single mind or purpose? |
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You lead an interesting life. Regardless of that, the "guy behind the counter" is most likely a sikh or a hindu. But I guess "they all look alike" to you. |
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Yes...pretty much: Liberals + gun control = group of people acting with a single mind and purpose |
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Do you drive a car? Ever fly in an airplane? Better take that back. |
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From The Boston Globe (of all places):
We are all Danes now By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | February 5, 2006 HINDUS CONSIDER it sacrilegious to eat meat from cows, so when a Danish supermarket ran a sale on beef and veal last fall, Hindus everywhere reacted with outrage. India recalled its ambassador to Copenhagen, and Danish flags were burned in Calcutta, Bombay, and Delhi. A Hindu mob in Sri Lanka severely beat two employees of a Danish-owned firm, and demonstrators in Nepal chanted: ''War on Denmark! Death to Denmark!"In many places, shops selling Dansk china or Lego toys were attacked by rioters, and two Danish embassies were firebombed. It didn't happen, of course. Hindus may consider it odious to use cows as food, but they do not resort to boycotts, threats, and violence when non-Hindus eat hamburger or steak. They do not demand that everyone abide by the strictures of Hinduism and avoid words and deeds that Hindus might find upsetting. The same is true of Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Mormons: They don't lash out in violence when their religious sensibilities are offended. They certainly don't expect their beliefs to be immune from criticism, mockery, or dissent. But radical Muslims do. The current uproar over cartoons of the Muslim prophet Mohammed published in a Danish newspaper illustrates yet again the fascist intolerance that is at the heart of radical Islam. Jyllands-Posten, Denmark's largest daily, commissioned the cartoons to make a point about freedom of speech. It was protesting the climate of intimidation that had made it impossible for a Danish author to find an illustrator for his children's book about Mohammed. No artist would agree to illustrate the book for fear of being harmed by Muslim extremists. Appalled by this self-censorship, Jyllands-Posten invited Danish artists to submit drawings of Mohammed, and published the 12 it received. Most of the pictures are tame to the point of dullness, especially compared to the biting editorial cartoons that routinely appear in US and European newspapers. A few of them link Mohammed to Islamist terrorism -- one depicts him with a bomb in his turban, while a second shows him in Heaven, pleading with newly arrived suicide terrorists: ''Stop, stop! We have run out of virgins!" Others focus on the threat to free speech: In one, a sweating artist sits at his drawing board, nervously sketching Mohammed, while glancing over his shoulder to make sure he's not being watched. That anything so mild could trigger a reaction so crazed -- riots, death threats, kidnappings, flag-burnings -- speaks volumes about the chasm that separates the values of the civilized world from those in too much of the Islamic world. Freedom of the press, the marketplace of ideas, the right to skewer sacred cows: Militant Islam knows none of this. And if the jihadis get their way, it will be swept aside everywhere by the censorship and intolerance of sharia. Here and there, some brave Muslim voices have cried out against the book-burners. The Jordanian newspaper Shihan published three of the cartoons. ''Muslims of the world, be reasonable," implored Shihan's editor, Jihad al-Momani, in an editorial. ''What brings more prejudice against Islam -- these caricatures or pictures of a hostage-taker slashing the throat of his victim in front of the cameras?" But within hours Momani was out of a job, fired by the paper's owners after the Jordanian government threatened legal action. He wasn't the only editor sacked last week. In Paris, Jacques LeFranc of the daily France Soir was also fired after running the Mohammed cartoons. The paper's owner, an Egyptian Copt named Raymond Lakah, issued a craven and Orwellian statement offering LeFranc's head as a gesture of ''respect for the intimate beliefs and convictions of every individual." But the France Soir staff defended their decision to publish the drawings in a stalwart editorial. ''The best way to fight against censorship is to prevent censorship from happening," they wrote. ''A fundamental principle guaranteeing democracy and secular society is under threat. To say nothing is to retreat." Across the continent, nearly two dozen other newspapers have joined in defending that principle. While Islamist clerics proclaim an ''international day of anger" or declare that ''the war has begun," leading publications in Norway, France, Italy, Spain, Holland, Germany, Switzerland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic have reprinted the Danish cartoons. But there has been no comparable show of backbone in America, where (as of Friday) only the New York Sun has had the fortitude to the run some of the drawings. Make no mistake: This story is not going away, and neither is the Islamofascist threat. The freedom of speech we take for granted is under attack, and it will vanish if it is not bravely defended. Today the censors may be coming for some unfunny Mohammed cartoons, but tomorrow it is your words and ideas they will silence. Like it or not, we are all Danes now. www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/02/05/we_are_all_danes_now/ ETA: If the original Danish articles were published in September, why is this all blowing up all of a sudden? I first heard about all this a few nights ago on the news. |
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to get away from their oppressive countries, so they can come here and support oppression here.
Lebrew |
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Whats so great about dubai?
the white dots are women, the double white dots are foreign women. Seems like a shit hole to me when women cant go out and shop by themselves. http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8360/dubai16vg.jpg |
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I say publish the pictures. What are the nutcases going to do about it? Riot? Burn stuff down? Kidnap people and cut off their heads on camera screaming "Allah Akbar" the whole time? Fly a couple of planes into the twin towers?
Oh....Wait...... The nutcases were doing this long before those Danish cartoons, weren' they?? Funny how that works out, isn't it? The Islamic world hears a rumor about a flushed Koran, and there are riots in the street and violent acts aplenty in its wake. The Palestinians see the 9/11 attacks and cheer in the streets. Some newspaper publishes some pictures of Muhammed and the response is massive unrest and violence. And yet they can't seem to muster much protest against what OBL and Zarqawi and those of his ilk do. They can riot in the streets and find all sorts of ways to spontaneously condemn a cartoon, but I have yet to see anyone protest the hideous murder of innocents perpetrated by the real criminals in this world. If they think that a guy drawing a picture of their "prophet" is an "attack", then perhaps they ought to go online and look at watch the video of people plummeting to their death from the twin towers, or watch their "bretheren" cutting the heads off of innocent people, EVEN OTHER MUSLIMS so they can learn what being attacked truly is. If the morons doing all this violence are pissed off about a cartoon and yet can muster no outrage against the violent acts perpetrated by their "bretheren", then they can just perish in their stupidity for all I care. When I see one of those riots I see a target rich environment. |
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Will arfcomm allow images of allah?
What about tubgirl blasting out on the koran? Or goatse with allahs image superimposed? |
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Sometimes people go to a foreign place and feel the need to assert their identity more. The immigrant communities can be more militant than the home countries from which the immigrants originate. For example, Muhammed Atta's father was semi-secular, and warned his son away from fundamentalists. Atta didn't get radicalized until he went to Germany. (See Perfect Soldiers by Terry McDermott if you're interested.) |
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I just saw the thread that was locked about the T-shirt of the bomb in the turban cartoon. IS there such a T-shirt??? PUT ME DOWN FOR A FEW!! Jeez imagine the rage of all the ragheads if people all over started wearing a T-shirt like that
Sweet. |
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Dutch blogger starts Mohammed parody contest
retecool.com/comments.php?id=13539_0_1_0_C Collection of the original cartoons plus alot more. securityarms.com/Humor/muhammad/muhammad.htm |
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Because despite a SMALL amount of complaints, it blew over in September and October, and while some muslims were offended, there was no big reaction or protests, certainly no violence. But THEN, extreme imams - muslim religious leaders- in Denmark decided they wanted more outrage - because apparently they are angry at living in one of the best places on the planet, with the highest standard of living, huge welfare state, free health care and education, etc. [whacko). Anyway - they spent the next couple of months, travelling to the middle east, and showing everyone these pictures, and telling them that this is what you see EVERY DAY in Denmark, where poor innocent muslims are persecuted every day. Oh - and of course they also showed three other, REALLY OFFENSIVE cartoons (on of which shows Mohammed as a pig, and the other which shows Mohammed being screwed by a dog, I believe), and claimed that they were among the ones published in the paper - a blatant lie. Eventually, their hate-mongering and lies led to all of this outrage. That is the explanation for the delay between the publication and the "outrage" |
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A LOOTIE- MUhammed photoshop???!!!! Now THAT is blasphemous! |
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To bad so sad.
I think I shall eat a danish in support. Now I just have to find one thats willing to let me eat her. |
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Islam is a perfect example when people's lives become out of balance
and become "Church" centered. Their entire existance revolves around their faith or belief. Happens in Christianity too. Get a life fools. I saw a profound bumper sticker a fews years back in LA. It said, "God, protect me from the people who follow you." |
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My entire life revolves around my church. As did the life of my Grandfather and Father before me. And the lives of countless others I have known through the years. We didn't burn any buildings. We didn't start any riots. We sure as hell didn't kill anybody. Your ignorance is astounding. Contrary to your statements, being a person of strong faith who gives their lives to the service of others and of the faith DOES NOT make someone a looney bin. After all, how many riots did Mother Theresa start? How many embassies did Corrie Ten Boom burn?? You need to learn some history and then try to rejoin the discussion when you are educated enough not to say something so damnably stupid. |
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They come here because of the abject failure of their own Muslim societies to provide for them.
They come here because they will not rest until every corner of this planet believes precisely the way they do. They come here because we are blind and do not realize the threat that this invasion represents....until it is too late. Watch Europe and see how it comes to terms with their Muslim minorities and their Muslim trading partners. The coming capitulation will make Neville Chamberlain's 'Peace in Our Time' look almost heroic. Eric The(TskTskTsk)Hun |
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The third world is a shithole because it is populated by third world people.
Often, but not always, when third world people move to the first world they turn the area around themselves into a third world shithole. Imagine......hati populated only by middle class or above first world people. It would be a garden spot. PS, carribean island property is just too valuable to be populated by third world people, eventually they won't be able to afford to live there and will be gone someplace else. |
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Tell that to the pussies at the U.S. State Department. (at least the U.S. ambassador to Denmark distanced himself from the state department statement today ) And speaking of coming to terms with trading partners, please post some pictures of European politicians holding hands with Saudi princes and hugging them - because there are plenty of those pictures of Bush. (Actually, I'm sure there are probably plenty of pictures of French politicians hugging and kissing arabs ) |
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Uh, what is the point of your reply to my post? I'm trying to figure why you are so defensive about Europe? Is there a problem with European resolve? And leave the French out of it. They insist. Eric The(Puzzled)Hun |
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Why is this thread tacked?
--- ETA this must be the offical muslim thread --- |
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