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Posted: 2/2/2006 7:59:47 PM EDT

February is "Black History Month", a month where all public school kids focus on "history" of Blacks, Africa and discrimination in America all in the hopes of instilling more pity for all the poor black perpetual-victims in America and more self-hating guilt and shame in all the white kids.

So today's history lesson is all about SLAVERY.  (yeah like what else would it be about?)

Of course THIS is the kind of history that will NEVER be taught to kids in America:

Did you know that blacks were ORIGINALLY brought to the New World as "indentured servants" not slaves. Indentured servants were indebted for a certain period of time working or laboring in exchange for their passage to the new world. After several years, their debts were paid and they were free to live on their own.

Did you know that one of the very first black men to arrive in the colonies was Anthony Johnson. He was one of 20 blacks who came to the Jamestown in 1619 as an indentured servant, worked off his debts and became freed in 1623. He later became a wealthy landowner (one of the first black landowners) and imported five more black indentured servants for himself.

Did you know that the first black "slave" (in permanent servitude for life) in the colonies was a black man named John Casor. In 1655 a Virginia court declared him to be permanently in service to his "owner", a wealthy Virginia landowner who sued in court saying that "hee had ye Negro for his life".

Did you know that the first slave-owner (the man who sued in court for John Casor to be his "Negro for life") was... Anthony Johnson - a free black man. Thus, the "Father of American Slavery" was actually a black man himself.

Did you know that by 1830 there were 3,775 free blacks in the US who owned 12,740 black slaves.
So... are they supposed to pay reparations to themselves?
Shaddup!


And did you know in fact that there are black men, women and children STILL being sold into slavery even today!? Care to guess where?



Well I'll close today's lesson with a final thought from Uncle Tom Booker T. Washington who was so prophetic in what he wrote almost 100 years ago:

"There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs - partly because they want sympathy, partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.

I'm afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."
~ Booker T. Washington,
from his autobiography written in 1911.

And after reading that quote, now you know why Booker T. Washington is persona non-grata to today's "Black Leaders" like Julian Bond, Jesse Jackass, Kwiese Mfume, Shalik-Malcom-Shabazz-Jamal X-Muhammed-Whateverthefuck and all the others.

No, you'll probably never hear about Booker T. Washington from today's leaders (ironic because that's exactly who Washington was referring to) but you will hear a LOT about one W.E.B. DuBois, founder of the NAACP, pan-Africanist racist and outright Communist who once declared, "Joseph Stalin was a great man; few other men of the 20th century approach his stature." Even after the horror of Stalinism was exposed, DuBois never backed down from his support of Stalin. And THEN he even went on and renounced his American citizenship to go and live back in Mother Africa. Weeeeeee!!!

Yep, so kids today are being taught that Commie, racist, Stalinist, America-hating W.E.B DuBois is a "great" man and is the foundation for all Black Leaders and groups today who use HIM as the model of how young blacks are supposed to think while the name Booker T. Washington is denigrated as being a sellout.



Have a nice month. (thank God it's the shortest month of the year)
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:01:07 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:


Did you know that by 1830 there were 3,775 free blacks in the US who owned 12,740 black slaves.
So do are they supposed to pay reparations to themselves?
Shaddup!



bwahahahhaa
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:03:11 PM EDT
[#2]
ibt88
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:07:53 PM EDT
[#3]
I agree with what you are saying.  I don't give a shit what color someone's skin is, but it seems to me that schools are helping seperate people into groups based on their skin color.  The hip hop culture does even more to this effect.  Almost all the gains of the civil rights movement have been reversed.  I don't feel like typing a big rant up, but I'm sure you know what I mean.  

To solve this, we need a black rifle history month.  

IBTL.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:10:49 PM EDT
[#4]
They can have February.
The other 11 months are full of Aryan history.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:11:04 PM EDT
[#5]
Now for a Black History Month factoid. www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/0131kingmedical.html

Coretta Scott King died at an alternative-treatment facility in Mexico run by an American with a criminal record and a history of trouble with medical authorities. King died at Hospital Santa Monica, a beachfront "holistic health center" 16 miles south of San Diego in Baja California, Mexico, a hospital spokesman said. The hospital was founded in 1983 by Kurt W. Donsbach, a chiropractor and naturopath who employs a "very eclectic approach to the treatment of chronic degenerative disease, diseases by and large considered incurable by the orthodox medical profession," the hospital's Web site says. Donsbach founded a similar hospital in Poland.

Donsbach, who does not have a medical degree, has faced charges several times in the United States, according to news accounts in California, court records and reports by patient advocacy groups. Regulators have challenged his credentials and the validity of his treatments for cancer and other terminal diseases. He pleaded guilty in 1996 in California to federal charges of introducing unapproved drugs in interstate commerce and tax evasion, court records show. He admitted to smuggling unapproved medicines into the United States, and agreed to pay more than $150,000 in back taxes. He was sentenced to one year and one day in prison. But, he never served time in prison, records show. ...

See, MLK's widow died because she couldn't afford American healthcare. It's all Bush's fault!
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:14:24 PM EDT
[#6]
Just another thing to keep racism alive (by the black man).

Oh and IBTL.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:17:17 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
They can have February.
The other 11 months are full of Aryan history.



I hope you are joking.  :)

Maybe my sarcasm meter is broken.

What's an Aryan?  
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:22:12 PM EDT
[#8]
Most slaves in Africa that were "sold" to the early American colonists were sold into slavery by their own black countrymen.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:27:27 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Well I'll close today's lesson with a final thought from Uncle Tom Booker T. Washington who was so prophetic in what he wrote almost 100 years ago:

"There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs - partly because they want sympathy, partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.

I'm afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."
~ Booker T. Washington,
from his autobiography written in 1911.

And after reading that quote, now you know why Booker T. Washington is persona non-grata to today's "Black Leaders" like Julian Bond, Jesse Jackass, Kwiese Mfume, Shalik-Malcom-Shabazz-Jamal X-Muhammed-Whateverthefuck and all the others.





Wow! Very informative Macallan.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:29:13 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
They can have February.
The other 11 months are full of Aryan history.




If you believe that, you haven't been to a school lately.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:34:40 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Have a nice month. (thank God it's the shortest month of the year)



You're quite the hystery perfesser The_Macallan.  Kudos.  
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:36:18 PM EDT
[#12]
Ok, This is Black history month.
Can we start with the fact that most Blacks that were sold into slavery were by other Blacks?
Can I have a, German, Irish, Canadian, Spanish, ........   and whatever, Month?
WE as country are a"melting Pot"
They Idea of a "Black" histroy month  Places the  "status"  above everyone else.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:38:51 PM EDT
[#13]
87 tags
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:39:08 PM EDT
[#14]
RACIST






more like a thruthist




oh and where is European history month, im sueing.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:40:58 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
They can have February.
The other 11 months are full of Aryan history.



Holy shit!

Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:42:25 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They can have February.
The other 11 months are full of Aryan history.



Holy shit!



hahahaa wow!
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:46:34 PM EDT
[#17]
This thread makes me feel good in the peepee.  
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:47:02 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Ok, This is Black history month.
Can we start with the fact that most Blacks that were sold into slavery were by other Blacks?
Can I have a, German, Irish, Canadian, Spanish, ........   and whatever, Month?
WE as country are a"melting Pot"
They Idea of a "Black" histroy month  Places the  "status"  above everyone else.



Now, now.  They're just placed above the racist white man.

Minority groups cannot be superior to one another. They all get their priviledges, and are simply superior to the racist white devil.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:49:17 PM EDT
[#19]
i think ill show my support for it by watching american history -x

i also wonderd why we dont ever have white history month? o wait cause if we had that we would be racist.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:50:07 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
i think ill show my support for it by watching american history -x
img52.imageshack.us/img52/2148/swdwdq9wf.jpg
i also wonderd why we dont ever have white history month? o wait cause if we had that we would be racist.



Didn't you read?

The other eleven months are for the Aryan racist scum.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:50:10 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
i think ill show my support for it by watching american history -x
img52.imageshack.us/img52/2148/swdwdq9wf.jpg
i also wonderd why we dont ever have white history month? o wait cause if we had that we would be racist.



No, the other 11 months are white history months.  
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:51:24 PM EDT
[#22]
well shit i feel better knowing that!
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:58:24 PM EDT
[#23]
Uncle Tom Macallan, can you tell us some more Black History? Pleeeease?


Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:59:20 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
What's an Aryan?  



Uh...are you joking?

If not look here
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:04:00 PM EDT
[#25]
Interesting... I'll try not to mangle the facts when this beccomes relavent in a discussion. No promises though.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:09:54 PM EDT
[#26]
First, Anthony Johnson is taught in "History of the Old South"-type classes at the university level (at least at my school).  Second, Anthony Johnson was not the first slave owner in the New World. The Spanish had slaves, not "indentured servants", in the New World before Anthony Johnson reached Virigina. Look up the Cimarrons, black fugitive slaves, and Sir Frances Drake. Anyway, what you left out, Anthony Johnson's wife and kids tried to persuade him to release Casor, but failed, before the ruling. Slavery already existed in Virginia but it was for punishment for breaking the law. "Black slavery" in VA was going to happen with or without the Anthony Johnson ruling because of the decreased mortality rate and increase availability of africans for trade. Also, white indentured servant importation was going down. The Virginia legislature in 1670, about 20 years after the ruling, passed a act that stated that non-Christian servants brought by shipping were to be slaves for life. The funny thing about what happened to Anthony Johnson is that his land was taken away after his death and from his family because he was black in 1670. He was the first recorded slave owner that owned a slave who did not commit a crime in the colonies (which is bad you know).

3,775 free blacks in the US who owned 12,740 black slaves in 1830...WOW. However, there were at least 469,757 slaves in Virigina alone in 1830. So, weak argument.

Sidenote, Anthony Johnson=douche bag.

night
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:16:17 PM EDT
[#27]
What's a Nubian?
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:16:46 PM EDT
[#28]
I saw a History Channel Biography show on Doctor Washington Carver - a TRULY great American hero. I read about this man when I was a child, and of Booker T. Washington, and other great Americans who had to become successful before White Liberal Guilt made it's big play to ruin America by enforcing equality.

As a white guy who grew up in a mildly bigoted South, I have come to realize that individuals > "people," and that groups tend to "dumb down" and go for the easiest way around any problem.

Socialists want to use this tactic to "dumb down" White America and Black America, by making White America cringe every time the race issue is brought up (except Socialists don't understand that there's a Law of Diminishing Returns rapidly coming into play here), and by "empowering" (that's what Socialists think continually portraying as victims my fellow citizens who have darker skin than me is) Black America to "overcome."

Overcome what? Who cares enough about hating anyone else to want to "keep them down?" I don't have the time or the energy (AFTER hating Socialists and Islamofascists, that is ) to go out of my way and be a bigoted dickhead simply because someone looks or talks differently than me - just so long as he isn't trying to kill me because I am different than him.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:28:58 PM EDT
[#29]
while I agree that people shouldn't use ancient history to blame for their problems today...

"Oh noes, teh jews lend me money at high rates in the 600 years ago! They control everything and made me a poor redneck!"

Black history month obviously will talk about slavery and discrimination because that's what sticks out in african american history. To try and discount its importance because it's been overplayed would not be productive, but instead further make you look like a racist trying to discount the historical suffering of African Americans. My personal take on it, is to have a healthy, open minded attitude about it, but not actively discount it by whining about how the first registered slave owner was black (ironic, but not really that important?) and also by not giving into the guilt i'm somehow supposed to feel even though I never owned slaves.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:43:55 PM EDT
[#30]
Stupid post.


"Joseph Stalin was a great man; few other men of the 20th century approach his stature."

how is this not true?
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:45:24 PM EDT
[#31]
I gotta color TV
     So I could see
            The Knicks play basketball


That about sums up February for me.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:47:20 PM EDT
[#32]
IBTL
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:48:42 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
I saw a History Channel Biography show on Doctor Washington Carver - a TRULY great American hero.



I saw that same program.  He found so many damn uses for the peanut and how to grow them more productively.  An interesting scientist.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:50:52 PM EDT
[#34]
IBTL you cracka
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:56:10 PM EDT
[#35]
I just turn off the TV for the month of FEB.

Of course the rest of the year you STILL get that bullsh*t in about every tv show,comercial, movie you see. Liberals won't be happy until everyone in the world is the same shade of brown. Who will they push their agenda on then?

As an afterthought I heard that US Grant kept a slave AFTER the war of northern aggression. Is this true? Maybe the civil war was really not about slavery like da tv say!?
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 11:23:43 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What's an Aryan?  



Uh...are you joking?

If not look here



Yes, I was joking.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 11:24:22 PM EDT
[#37]

Did you know that one of the very first black men to arrive in the colonies was Anthony Johnson. He was one of 20 blacks who came to the Jamestown in 1619 as an indentured servant, worked off his debts and became freed in 1623. He later became a wealthy landowner (one of the first black landowners) and imported five more black indentured servants for himself.

Did you know that the first black "slave" (in permanent servitude for life) in the colonies was a black man named John Casor. In 1655 a Virginia court declared him to be permanently in service to his "owner", a wealthy Virginia landowner who sued in court saying that "hee had ye Negro for his life".

Did you know that the first slave-owner (the man who sued in court for John Casor to be his "Negro for life") was... Anthony Johnson - a free black man. Thus, the "Father of American Slavery" was actually a black man himself.

Did you know that by 1830 there were 3,775 free blacks in the US who owned 12,740 black slaves.



Source?

True or untrue, I certainly hope it isn't intended as some sort of twisted justification for slavery.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 11:27:53 PM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 12:37:12 AM EDT
[#39]
Time to send this to all the libtards you know.....
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 3:46:02 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
Stupid post.


"Joseph Stalin was a great man; few other men of the 20th century approach his stature."

how is this not true?



If you consider murdering 40 million people including more Jews than Hitler to be the definition of a "great man", then I suppose it is true.

If, however, your brain hasn't liquified and run out of your ear, you would think that calling a man who made Hitler look like Mr. Rogers a "great man" is a sign of serious mental problems.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 3:48:13 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Source?

True or untrue, I certainly hope it isn't intended as some sort of twisted justification for slavery.



I don't read ANYTHING in Mac's post suggesting that slavery was right, or that we ought to go back to it.

I DO, however, see an attempt to inject a bit of fact into a topic that most people have no idea about. EVERY RACE OF MEN has been enslaved at one point or another. Thus to say that slavery is the white man's invention and sin is completely untrue. No race on earth is free from having been slaves and having had slaves.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 4:16:38 AM EDT
[#42]

Link Posted: 2/3/2006 4:18:35 AM EDT
[#43]

Happy Black History Month


Hey, thanks for reminding me, crackah!!!












Link Posted: 2/3/2006 4:45:12 AM EDT
[#44]
How many slaves were there by the beginning of the Civil War?


I want to toss in the DU folks face that:  simple version here

1.  Lincoln is one of the greatest presidents for "freeing the (amount) of slaves"?  

Yes... I know the whole states rights thing and all, by we are talking to liberals.

2.  President Bush as freed 80 million people in Iraq.

Who is a greater President?

Step back before their brains implodes.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 5:56:51 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
First, Anthony Johnson is taught in "History of the Old South"-type classes at the university level (at least at my school).

First, I referred to "public school" which is K-12 which nearly 100% of kids go through, not some university upper-level specialized history course that almost nobody takes.



Quoted:
Second, Anthony Johnson was not the first slave owner in the New World. The Spanish had slaves, not "indentured servants", in the New World before Anthony Johnson reached Virigina.


Again, reading is fundamental. I said that "...the first black "slave" (in permanent servitude for life) in the colonies was a black man named John Casor... Thus, the "Father of American Slavery" was actually a black man himself"



Quoted:
Look up the Cimarrons, black fugitive slaves, and Sir Frances Drake. Anyway, what you left out, Anthony Johnson's wife and kids tried to persuade him to release Casor, but failed, before the ruling.

Yeah and I also left out how tall Johnson was - because that was equally irrelevant.



Quoted:
Slavery already existed in Virginia but it was for punishment for breaking the law. "Black slavery" in VA was going to happen with or without the Anthony Johnson ruling because of the decreased mortality rate and increase availability of africans for trade.

Maybe, maybe not - but Johnson's court ruling clearly paved the way for "servitude for life" which had not been allowed except as punishment for crimes.


Quoted:
Also, white indentured servant importation was going down. The Virginia legislature in 1670, about 20 years after the ruling, passed a act that stated that non-Christian servants brought by shipping were to be slaves for life. The funny thing about what happened to Anthony Johnson is that his land was taken away after his death and from his family because he was black in 1670. He was the first recorded slave owner that owned a slave who did not commit a crime in the colonies (which is bad you know).

And all of that changes the facts I posted HOW??



Quoted:
3,775 free blacks in the US who owned 12,740 black slaves in 1830...WOW. However, there were at least 469,757 slaves in Virigina alone in 1830. [re]So, weak argument.

WTF!??

I'm not arguing anything other than the fact that historical revisionism and biased omission of many facts and contexts pervades "Black History Month".

Link Posted: 2/3/2006 6:02:12 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Did you know that one of the very first black men to arrive in the colonies was Anthony Johnson. He was one of 20 blacks who came to the Jamestown in 1619 as an indentured servant, worked off his debts and became freed in 1623. He later became a wealthy landowner (one of the first black landowners) and imported five more black indentured servants for himself.

Did you know that the first black "slave" (in permanent servitude for life) in the colonies was a black man named John Casor. In 1655 a Virginia court declared him to be permanently in service to his "owner", a wealthy Virginia landowner who sued in court saying that "hee had ye Negro for his life".

Did you know that the first slave-owner (the man who sued in court for John Casor to be his "Negro for life") was... Anthony Johnson - a free black man. Thus, the "Father of American Slavery" was actually a black man himself.

Did you know that by 1830 there were 3,775 free blacks in the US who owned 12,740 black slaves.

Source?

Further Reading:
PBS: Frontline
US National Slavery Museum
Africans In Virginia
Slaves and Servants
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion
Colored Freemen As Slaveowners in Virginia



Quoted:
True or untrue, I certainly hope it isn't intended as some sort of twisted justification for slavery.

No. It's a very straightforward criticism of the selective indoctrination in schools done during "Black History Month" and a denigration of today's current Communist-founded "Black Leaders".




Are we allowed to say the word "denigration" during Black History Month!? I dunno, that sounds racist to me!
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 6:03:36 AM EDT
[#47]
"The statistics show that, when free, blacks disproportionately became slave masters."


Link

Link Posted: 2/3/2006 6:44:56 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
Again, reading is fundamental. I said that "...the first black "slave" (in permanent servitude for life) in the colonies was a black man named John Casor... Thus, the "Father of American Slavery" was actually a black man himself"



It seems you lack those skills, too.


Did you know that blacks were ORIGINALLY brought to the New World as "indentured servants" not slaves.



Quoted:
Yeah and I also left out how tall Johnson was - because that was equally irrelevant.



It is relevant because it relates to the case unlike his height.


Quoted:
WTF!??
I'm not arguing anything other than the fact that historical revisionism and biased omission of many facts and contexts pervades "Black History Month".



You tried to use that fact as a argument for against reparations which again was very weak. It still does not stop the fact that the vast majority of black slaves in the US were owned by white masters. That would be like arguing the Jews should not of got their money/property back because there were Jews within the Third Reich government.



So... are they supposed to pay reparations to themselves?
Shaddup




Quoted:
And all of that changes the facts I posted HOW??



Supports what I posted about slavery was going to happen in Virigina with or without the Johnson ruling. Furthermore, the court supported Johnson's claim and they had chance to deny his claim. What does that make the court? He was the first slaveholder in the colonies but that does not make him the "father of American slavery."

Edit:I will be back later...
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 7:30:13 AM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Again, reading is fundamental. I said that "...the first black "slave" (in permanent servitude for life) in the colonies was a black man named John Casor... Thus, the "Father of American Slavery" was actually a black man himself"

It seems you lack those skills, too.

Did you know that blacks were ORIGINALLY brought to the New World as "indentured servants" not slaves.

Correction: I should have referred to "the American colonies" in that one instance (like I did every time afterward) rather than the more general term "New World". What the Spanish did was separate from the American colonies.

But the context and my later specific references should have led you to understand the idea - that in the AMERICAN COLONIES Black slavery was started by a black man.

The Court would not have agreed with him had he not argued for slavery-for-life in the first place.




Quoted:

Quoted:
WTF!??
I'm not arguing anything other than the fact that historical revisionism and biased omission of many facts and contexts pervades "Black History Month".

You tried to use that fact as a argument for against reparations which again was very weak.

Actually I only made one very small passing reference to reparations, not an argument against it. Thinking that I was trying to put forth an actual "argument against reparations" was a just a creation in your mind.




Quoted:
It still does not stop the fact that the vast majority of black slaves in the US were owned by white masters. That would be like arguing the Jews should not of got their money/property back because there were Jews within the Third Reich government.

So... are they supposed to pay reparations to themselves?
Shaddup

Okay so let me get this right -

Are you comparing the call for reparations by Blacks living in America TODAY for slavery that ended 150 years ago to the return of stolen property taken from Jews during WWII??? Is THAT what you're doing?

Don't tell me you actually give one iota of credence to the argument for "slave-reparations" put forth by race-hustling nitwits today do you?

Link Posted: 2/3/2006 7:55:16 AM EDT
[#50]
What....?

Sorry....I was watching Zulu.


Sheep
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