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Posted: 1/30/2006 7:32:36 AM EDT
Newly built PC and newly purchased DSL has got me thinking about what to use for anti-virus/firewall.

On my old Dell 8100 I used Norton Internet Security 2003-2005. No real complaints about the functionality (I really liked the anti-spam features) but it was a REAL resource hog. My computer was really slow after installing it. So I'd like to use something different.

I have Norton IS 2005 and I also have the NVidia firewall that came with my Asus mobo. I have not heard too many good things about the NVidia firewall.

I asked a buddy of mine in IT and he recommended Avast (virus) and ZoneAlarm (firewall). He said both are free.

What do you recommend?

Link Posted: 1/30/2006 7:38:11 AM EDT
Been running Zone Alarm Pro for about a year, with no problems.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 7:41:45 AM EDT
Trend Micro PC Cillin
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:17:47 AM EDT
We've been using AVG for antivirus and Zone Alarm for firewall on our winblows boxen for years and haven't had any problems.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:41:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/30/2006 8:43:35 AM EDT by Max_Mike]
Do you have a home hardware router… they are your 1st and best line of defense.

I run AVG-Free anti-virus I don’t run a software firewall and have found no need behind the router. If you must run a software firewall Norton is a resource hog and the firewall in not as effective as Zone Alarm which is free.

Run a good ACTIVE spyware blocking program… MS AntiSpyware or Spybot.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:44:38 AM EDT
nod32

panda

avast is ok

zonealarm is ok

kerio firewall i don't think is free now

Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:45:09 AM EDT
Turn off computer, go outside.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:45:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:
Turn off computer, go outside.



yeah i'd like to tell some of my customers that
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:46:43 AM EDT
I too don't run a software firewall, I'm using a $15 after rebate SMC700 a hardwired router with built-in firewall because I have an older CPU, and I don't want to use up any CPU cycles. Be aware for the gamers, this router may not be compatible with some online games.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:49:07 AM EDT
I run Norton, never had a problem. couldn't stan McCaffe
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:58:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jmzd4:
I run Norton, never had a problem. couldn't stan McCaffe



Maybe you should give McAfee a try.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 9:02:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 338winmag:
Trend Micro PC Cillin



Unfortunately that one received the worst ratings in the last security scan done by cnet.

I would suggest not using the trendy "security suites" buy a cheap DSL/Cable router this way your system is behind NAT so that your machine is not available via a public IP address and use a good name Anti Virus. The only thing that I could suggest better would be a hardware firewall, but in most cases they are much more expensive (in the $300-400 range).
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 9:06:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 9:09:15 AM EDT
Zone alarm firewall (No router)

Avast (free version) anti-virus.

I also run
Spy Bot AND Ad Aware (one will invariably find something the other missed).

I use Mail Washer to kill crap emails out on the server.

Link Posted: 1/30/2006 10:48:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By jmzd4:
I run Norton, never had a problem. couldn't stan McCaffe



Maybe you should give McAfee a try.




I did, it did nothing but fuck up my pc
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 10:52:00 AM EDT
Bit Defender for anti virus, but it is very expensive. Nod32 I use and works good. Zone Alarm
for the firewall, Ewido for a malware search. Here is a great anti virus site. It will help
you decide which fits your needs.
www.av-comparatives.org/
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 4:17:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By no2guncntrl:
Bit Defender for anti virus, but it is very expensive. Nod32 I use and works good. Zone Alarm
for the firewall, Ewido for a malware search. Here is a great anti virus site. It will help
you decide which fits your needs.
www.av-comparatives.org/



thanks for that link
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 4:29:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Do you have a home hardware router… they are your 1st and best line of defense.



I am not familiar with home hardware routers. Could you recommend one (that's available from a source like newegg.com)?
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 4:30:22 AM EDT
Zone Alarm - firewall.
Grisoft AVG - antivirus.

Both free for home use, both very highly regarded.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 4:40:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jthuang:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:
Do you have a home hardware router… they are your 1st and best line of defense.



I am not familiar with home hardware routers. Could you recommend one (that's available from a source like newegg.com)?



Depends on the quality of the firewall you want.

A linksys WRT54G is pretty much the best entry-level router out there, and should run about 50-60 bucks.

A super-grade quality firewall, like a SonicWALL, are much more expensive, but you definately get what you pay for. I run one of these myself, and I Couldnt be happier -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833339004

A sonicwall like this -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833339001

has just as good of a firewal in it, for about half the price.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 1:07:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Depends on the quality of the firewall you want.

A linksys WRT54G is pretty much the best entry-level router out there, and should run about 50-60 bucks.

A super-grade quality firewall, like a SonicWALL, are much more expensive, but you definately get what you pay for. I run one of these myself, and I Couldnt be happier -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833339004

A sonicwall like this -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833339001

has just as good of a firewal in it, for about half the price.



Wow, those are steep. I might spring for one of the Linksys routers, but I don't have (or need) wireless in my home .... hmm, need to do more research.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 1:23:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TMG4:
Only the best



www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/internet_security/npf2006/index.html




Uh huh........


Link Posted: 1/31/2006 1:42:42 PM EDT
+1 on Zone Alarm Pro

I use Mcaffee for Virus stuff

Adaware and Spybot search and destroy for popups
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 5:52:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jthuang:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Depends on the quality of the firewall you want.

A linksys WRT54G is pretty much the best entry-level router out there, and should run about 50-60 bucks.

A super-grade quality firewall, like a SonicWALL, are much more expensive, but you definately get what you pay for. I run one of these myself, and I Couldnt be happier -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833339004

A sonicwall like this -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833339001

has just as good of a firewal in it, for about half the price.



Wow, those are steep. I might spring for one of the Linksys routers, but I don't have (or need) wireless in my home .... hmm, need to do more research.



You get what you pay for. A linksys router of some kind is plenty good enough for the basic user. The sonicwalls are quite advanced.

Even if you get the wireless router, you can always turn off the transmitter. The wrt54g is the best bang for the buck, and you can even flash it with linux.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:25:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
You get what you pay for. A linksys router of some kind is plenty good enough for the basic user. The sonicwalls are quite advanced.

Even if you get the wireless router, you can always turn off the transmitter. The wrt54g is the best bang for the buck, and you can even flash it with linux.



Good deal ... I see that Newegg has a one day sale on the Linksys WRT54G (with a $15 rebate, even, and free shipping). Looks like I've got my firewall solved. Thanks.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:29:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By jthuang:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Depends on the quality of the firewall you want.

A linksys WRT54G is pretty much the best entry-level router out there, and should run about 50-60 bucks.

A super-grade quality firewall, like a SonicWALL, are much more expensive, but you definately get what you pay for. I run one of these myself, and I Couldnt be happier -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833339004

A sonicwall like this -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833339001

has just as good of a firewal in it, for about half the price.



Wow, those are steep. I might spring for one of the Linksys routers, but I don't have (or need) wireless in my home .... hmm, need to do more research.



You get what you pay for. A linksys router of some kind is plenty good enough for the basic user. The sonicwalls are quite advanced.

Even if you get the wireless router, you can always turn off the transmitter. The wrt54g is the best bang for the buck, and you can even flash it with linux.



The SonicWalls are also rather simple to setup (assuming your router is setup properly also )

I run WatchGuard and like the features on this system as opposed to the SonicWall.

WatchGuard is also more finiky and prone to configuration issues (read: A bitch to setup sometimes).

Check Evilbay for sonicwall stuff. Heck, there was even a sonicwall in the EE here a few weeks back.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:38:56 PM EDT
Is this the Linksys router?

Linksys WRT54G Wireless G Router

I note that there is a WRT54GS version (which seems to differ from the above in that the "S" model has the Speed Booster and is $15 more ... I guess that's not important if I'm not going be running the wireless part?).
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:48:18 PM EDT
Adware, spybot, zone alarm, Avast, check www.trendmicro.com every once in a while and use their free online spyware checker and antivirus checker, download and use their cwshredder.
Also once you have a clean computer download www.secretmaker.com to keep everything clean and get rid of all those bits and pieces of junk web sites put on your computer. also does a good job of blocking intruders and pop up and anything else.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:03:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 8:06:15 PM EDT by mm34b]

Originally Posted By jmzd4:
I run Norton, never had a problem. couldn't stan McCaffe



Same here. Using Norton 2006 & Norton 2006 Personal Firewall. I'm satisfied with both. Also use the free Microsoft AntiSpyware program.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:37:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jthuang:
Is this the Linksys router?

Linksys WRT54G Wireless G Router

I note that there is a WRT54GS version (which seems to differ from the above in that the "S" model has the Speed Booster and is $15 more ... I guess that's not important if I'm not going be running the wireless part?).



Thats the one.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 5:35:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Thats the one.



Thanks, gonna order it today.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 5:56:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2006 7:15:13 AM EDT by DNADuster]
What about US Robotics wireless router?
Firewall any good on those?
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 7:39:39 AM EDT
After you get setup go to www.grc.com and use the 'Sheilds Up' program to test your firewall. Also www.pcflank.com has some test that will tell if you are exposed.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 7:46:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jmzd4:
I run Norton, never had a problem. couldn't stan McCaffe



This is always the wierd thing about software and running on machines. I run McAffee and can't stand Norton.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 7:53:29 AM EDT
I like this Netgear Firewall/VPN switch for less than $50.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833122081
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 7:56:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2006 7:58:22 AM EDT by Gamma762]
Zone Alarm + AVG + Spybot Search and Destroy, all freeware.

Zone Alarm

AVG Anti Virus

Spybot Search & Destroy

Running behind a router can also help security from external intrustion, at the expense of some limited functionality (depending on what you try to do, you might never notice)
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