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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:28:38 PM EDT
I was bored tonight, so I thought I'd make up a trivia quiz concerning our favorite sport. Answer the questions and I'll report in later the answers. This isn't too hard, I'm sure you guys will do well.

1. There have technically been five (5) .30 caliber cartridges adopted by the U.S. military, which were they?

2. The beloved .308 Winchester (7.62 NATO) was initially introduced (simultaneously) in two different rifles, name them.

3. Which of these cartridges could you not use in a modern handgun chambered for 9mm?
Cartridges: 9mm Luger, 9x19, 9mm Makarov, 9mm Parabellum, 9mm/08, 9mm Largo.

4. Which cartridge is considered the most powerful automatic pistol cartridge in the world (production ammo only, no wildcats)?

5. Marlin introduced a "stretch" version of which popular revolver round to make the lever rifle cartridge .444 Marlin?

6. What are the two reasons that you cannot use modern "JS" rated 8mm Mauser ammunition in older rifles manufactured before 1905?

7. Name as many cartridges as you can that are derived from the .30-06 case?

*Bonus* What rate of twist was the .223 (5.56 NATO) offered in?
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 6:39:59 PM EDT
1. .30 U.S. Gov't (30-40 Krag), 30-03, 30-06, .30 M1 Carbine, 7.62X51

2. Win M70, and that odd looking levergun Winchester put out, can't remember the model (100?)

3. 9mm Largo

4. .50AE(?)

5. .44 Rem Mag

6. .318 J bore vs. .323 JS bore, not sure about the second reason

7. 270, 280, 35 Whelen, 25-06, 338-06, 6.5-06

bonus: first in 1:14, then 1:12, then 1:7 for military service. Civilian rifles also commonly use 1:8 and 1:9 as well as some oddball twist rates for competitive shooting.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 6:46:31 PM EDT
Very good young Jedi. You missed a couple though. I'll give answers after a few more responses.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 6:54:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jmt686:
1. .30 U.S. Gov't (30-40 Krag), 30-03, 30-06, .30 M1 Carbine, 7.62X51

2. Win M70, and that odd looking levergun Winchester put out, can't remember the model (100?)

3. 9mm Largo

4. .50AE(?)

5. .44 Rem Mag

6. .318 J bore vs. .323 JS bore, not sure about the second reason

7. 270, 280, 35 Whelen, 25-06, 338-06, 6.5-06

bonus: first in 1:14, then 1:12, then 1:7 for military service. Civilian rifles also commonly use 1:8 and 1:9 as well as some oddball twist rates for competitive shooting.



IIRC the odd looking lever gun was the model 88.

BTW I think the model 100 was the semi auto version.

Add to #7 8mm-06, .400 Whelan, and I'm sure someone has made a .375-06 but don't know if there is an official name for it.

Otherwise, nothing I dissagree with here.

Kent
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:17:43 PM EDT
Okay, this is apparently going to be a slow thread. Thanks for playing anyway. Here's the answers:

1. 30-40 Krag, .30-03, .30-06, .30 carbine, .308 Winchester (7.62 NATO)
2. Winchester model 70 and 88
3. 9mm Makarov and 9mm Largo
4. 50 AE, many people would say the 10mm Auto though as 50 AE is pretty rare.
5. .44 Remington Magnum
6. The higher velocity and associated higher pressure and also the change from .318 to .323 diameter bullets.
7. 25-06, 270, 280, 30-06, 8mm-06, 338-06, 35 Whelen. I realize you guys listed a couple more. Sorry, I've never heard of them. Doesn't mean they don't exist though.
8. 1 in 14

Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:35:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By konger:
Okay, this is apparently going to be a slow thread. Thanks for playing anyway. Here's the answers:

1. 30-40 Krag, .30-03, .30-06, .30 carbine, .308 Winchester (7.62 NATO)
2. Winchester model 70 and 88
3. 9mm Makarov and 9mm Largo
4. 50 AE, many people would say the 10mm Auto though as 50 AE is pretty rare.
5. .44 Remington Magnum
6. The higher velocity and associated higher pressure and also the change from .318 to .323 diameter bullets.
7. 25-06, 270, 280, 30-06, 8mm-06, 338-06, 35 Whelen. I realize you guys listed a couple more. Sorry, I've never heard of them. Doesn't mean they don't exist though.
8. 1 in 14




Bonus question was worded in such a way you didn't limit the answer to1 in 14. Particularily since you included the NATO designation which indicates the later versions which where the 1:7 twist. If you want to split hairs.

The .400 Whelan was offered by Griffen & Howe in the 20's and 30's. It didn't survive very well as the minimum shoulder for headspacing ment the gun and ammo had to be held to very tight tolerances to function. Consequently it didn't survive the test of time. You know some yahoo out there has to have necked the .30-06 down to .22 as well.

Kent
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:58:23 PM EDT
1. 30-40 Krag , 30.03 , 30.06 , .308 , .30 cal. M1
2. M-60 & M14
3. 9mm. Makarov
4. S&W model 500
5. .44 Russian ?
6. They were maunfactrured to use black powder?
7. I must confess I have no idea.....

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