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Posted: 1/26/2006 9:11:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 9:11:22 AM EDT by echap]
Been here 9 years and the last few years that's all I have gotten. One year we did not get any raise.

Thoughts?

Echap
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:11:37 AM EDT
That's not even a cost of living raise.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:12:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By echap:
Been here 9 years and the last few years that's all I have gotten. One year we did not get any raise.

Thoughts?

Echap



you need other people to tell you whether you should be happy or not?
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:13:58 AM EDT
UMMMMM no.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:16:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 9:22:34 AM EDT by Leisure_Shoot]
Are you overpaid to begin with?
Oftentimes, if you are paid more than your co-workers, or at the top of your pay-scale for your position, you get little or no raises.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:16:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bastiat:

you need other people to tell you whether you should be happy or not?



Uhh, No, I guess maybe "happy" was not the right word. I'm just wondering if, based on the economy, if this would been deemed:

Above Normal

Normal

Below Normal

Just plain shitty

Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:17:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chooper:
That's not even a cost of living raise.



What should a cost of living raise be?
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:20:42 AM EDT
damn man I work at a non-profit and most entry level people get atleast 3%.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:22:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Are you overpaid to begin with?
Oftentimes, if you are paid more than your co-workers, or at the top of your pay-scale for your position.



+1. I'm salaried about as high as is practical (no complaints) for my job. I got a small raise this year, and heck - it could've been 10 bucks. I was happy to get it.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:22:27 AM EDT
I would consider 1.5% a slap in the face. But I also bust my ass and created two new positions in addition to myself with the .gov client. That = more $$$ for the company.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:23:13 AM EDT

The general consensus of Arfcom GD is that everyone (else) is overpaid.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:27:01 AM EDT
I got a 3.5% cost-of-living adjustment this year.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:30:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 9:31:03 AM EDT by bastiat]

Originally Posted By echap:


Originally Posted By bastiat:

you need other people to tell you whether you should be happy or not?



Uhh, No, I guess maybe "happy" was not the right word. I'm just wondering if, based on the economy, if this would been deemed:

Above Normal

Normal

Below Normal

Just plain shitty





That depends on things people here can't possibly know without a lot more information.

What is your job field?

What is the demand for your particular skill?

Which direction is it heading - up or down?

What is the financial situation of the company?

What are people in similar fields in your area getting?

If you're getting 1.5% in a booming market where everyone else is getting 5%, that's different than getting 1.5% when other people are getting laid off, pay cuts, or find their similar jobs gettign sent overseas.

Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:31:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By echap:
Been here 9 years and the last few years that's all I have gotten. One year we did not get any raise.

Thoughts?

Echap



It is a insult... unless the company is in trouble and cannot do better.

Clearly shows they do not value as a employee.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:31:20 AM EDT
Some people would just be happy to not have their job sent overseas.

I'm just waiting for the day when businesses realize they can send management overseas too.

That will be interesting...
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:33:38 AM EDT
Thats 1.5 % more than I, or any other hourly employee in my company has gotten in the last year!!!.......Be happy you got something
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:38:54 AM EDT
It's not a raise, it's a pay cut. Inflation goes faster.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:44:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 9:45:34 AM EDT by motown_steve]
It depends.

Raises are usually accompanied by performance reviews. If you got a good performance review, and you know that the company is in financial hard times, then they may be sending you a megar signal of appreciation (we can't do much, but we do appreciate your work). If you got a poor performance review then you should ask yourself if the criticisms were fair.

If the company is not having financial problems and they gave you a goot performance review, but only gave you a 1.5% raise then they don't value you as an employee and it's time to move on.

Personally, I have never gotten a raise less than 5%, but I have had years where I didn't get any raise due to payroll freezes.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 9:45:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 9:46:01 AM EDT by WolfFox]
A couple of years ago I got a 24% pay raise! Now that is a pay raise! It was a total surprise!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:01:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chooper:
That's not even a cost of living raise.

+1 Inflation is rising faster then that!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:02:41 AM EDT
The rule is that you never get the raise you are worth unless you change jobs.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:12:04 AM EDT
Well, lets compare with some "raises" I am facing in the Northeast (and around the country)
This is over the last year...

Postage +5.4%
Gasoline +63%
Heating Oil +70%
Property Tax Assesment +55%
Electric Bill +22%
Auto Insurance +12%
Grocieries +8%

My Raise.......... 0%
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:14:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 10:16:07 AM EDT by wildearp]
I got 4% after kicking ass and pulling almost all of the weight for critical projects for the group. For 1.5%, I would be gone. For 4%, I am evening out the work load by devious means.

My guess is that the guy who did the least work got the biggest raise and bonus, because he is sucking ass and balls at every possible moment.

Karma, yes, is a fucking bitch and I hear it knocking......
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:20:18 AM EDT
Do you work for GM? Then, yes.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:22:52 AM EDT
You are falling behind.


(most of us are too)
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:23:01 AM EDT
Here's a little Michigan math...

<guesstimate>

$40k/yr wages X 1.5% = $600

$600 divided by 2080 hr/man yr = $.29/hr raise.

Just driving to work will cost you more this year than last year by more than the MEAGER/INSULTING/DEMEANING/TIGHTWAD/YOU'READUMBASSFORSTAYINGWITHTHISCOMPANY so called raise.

Echap your company has calculated that you will accept this fuckin' & not expect a kiss.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:23:32 AM EDT
Try working for yourself.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 10:26:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jpman7:

Originally Posted By chooper:
That's not even a cost of living raise.



+1 Inflation is rising faster then that!



If it is not higher than the rate of inflation it is not a raise.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 12:58:08 PM EDT
Part of me thinks you should go to your boss and tell him that if they can't do any better than 1.5% they should just keep it because they are in worse shape than you and that you will be leaving in 2 week for greener pastures.

Then there is the part of me that thinks you should just be greatful to have a job.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:03:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL-01:
Part of me thinks you should go to your boss and tell him that if they can't do any better than 1.5% they should just keep it because they are in worse shape than you and that you will be leaving in 2 week for greener pastures.

Then there is the part of me that thinks you should just be greatful to have a job.




Good post.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:09:51 PM EDT
Shit, that's what my company has been doling out for the past 6 years. And on my performance reviews I've been averaging 8/10 metrics with exceeds expectations. Doesn't matter if you walk on water or if you're an oxygen thief.

Fuckit. I quit.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:12:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:19:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 1:20:49 PM EDT by 89grand]
I hadn't received a raise at all in 4 years...except when I quit about 7 months ago for a different position and then my old company asked my to come back 2 months later. They're paying me $13,180 a year more than they did before I quit.

That doesn't happen very often though.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:22:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 1:26:13 PM EDT by gks452]
Sounds like me. Information Technology went from the best career field to one of the worst in about 2 years. My biggest raise in the last 5 years is about 2.5% my lowest was 0%. In the prior 5 years it averaged 10% a year. Got two raises that totaled 15% 9 years ago.

Three years ago everyone whose review date was in the first half of the year got a 1-2% raise (I got 2% and was glad to get it). Everyone whose review date was in the last half of the year got nothing. Earnings were bad so the company decided to cut out raises. We had rumors of a 10-15% pay cut but that never happened. Business has improved so that isn't likely to happen now.

Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:23:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 1:24:05 PM EDT by bvmjethead]
If you're posting on ARFCOM from work you should be..
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:24:12 PM EDT
1.5%??? Considering how much the prices of just about everything else has been inflated?

DRAW DOWN!!!!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:38:27 PM EDT
Unless you're on a good performance bonus plan they don't give out raises much anymore anywhere.

If you want a pay raise start interviewing to get a job elsewhere. Seriously.

If you're a valuable employee and they're underpaying you let them recruit and hire someone else (probably at a higher salary) and train them to do your job.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:38:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bvmjethead:
If you're posting on ARFCOM from work you should be..



I consider it a portion of my compensation...
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:46:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:49:14 PM EDT
This doc I know just got fired.

My best friends wife was laid off Monday.

Be grateful you have a job and benefits.

Times are getting rough out there. No more free lunch.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:55:13 PM EDT
Ask the workers at Ford.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:59:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By jpman7:

Originally Posted By chooper:
That's not even a cost of living raise.


+1 Inflation is rising faster then that!


If it is not higher than the rate of inflation it is not a raise.




Maybe he'd be better of with nothing more than last year???

You guys crack me up.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:01:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scmar:
Ask the workers at Ford.



She was a FORD HR person. 8 months severence for 11 years served and a slap on the ass when she left the building.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:01:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bvmjethead:
If you're posting on ARFCOM from work you should be..


+1
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:04:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By scmar:
Ask the workers at Ford.


She was a FORD HR person. 8 months severence for 11 years served and a slap on the ass when she left the building.


Ahhhh. Severance. When you get paid by a company you no longer provide a service for.

More union bullshit.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:06:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

Originally Posted By bvmjethead:
If you're posting on ARFCOM from work you should be..



I consider it a portion of my compensation...



I consider it grounds for termination. Faffing around on the internet while you're supposed to be working for me.



We wonder why the gooks are running us into the ground on autos, computers, TV's, stereo equipment, toys, clothes, appliances and every other thing sold at Wal*Mart.

Sheesh

Hardest thing about owning my own business if finding a person who wants to work. If I could clone myself I'd be a gazillionaire.

Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:06:29 PM EDT
It depends on a lot of things.

You could already be making the max that you are worth for one, and just how much is a 1.5% raise?


$50K X .015 = $750

$250K X .015 = $3,750

Though in either case, the raise compared to the pay is petty, but I don't know anything about your job.


I got a raise once from $7.75/hr to $7.77/hr, needless to say, I woundered why they even bothered, as the paper work to proccese the raise likely cost more than the increase itself.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:12:54 PM EDT
Sounds like you should get a job that requires a union to barter for your raises!Seriously!

I know everyone hates them here,but they do serve a purpose.

Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:33:28 PM EDT
Why don't they just crap in a bag and give that to you instead?

If it isn't cost of living, what is the point?
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:33:36 PM EDT
well, i just started for a company last week after a year of being self underemployeed. i am the highest payed guy doing my type of job. and in about 2 more weeks i will be getting a 6.5 % raise. ( i will be buying a membership in 2 months )

i also have something that only 1 other person in the company has ( the owner ), and i have skills that no one else really has. also because of having my own company i have experance that no one else who does the same job i do has.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:35:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By scmar:
Ask the workers at Ford.


She was a FORD HR person. 8 months severence for 11 years served and a slap on the ass when she left the building.


Ahhhh. Severance. When you get paid by a company you no longer provide a service for.

More union bullshit.



Isn't most HR management positions? Unless its for the government.

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