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Posted: 1/25/2006 8:14:31 AM EDT
You know the rules: identify each firearm pictured. If there's something unusual about that particular firearm (not the model, the exact gun pictured) try to guess what it is.


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Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:30:32 AM EDT
What, nobody?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:33:18 AM EDT
6 is the Jerhico/Baby Eagle, right?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:39:39 AM EDT
Okay, I can not identify most of these even though I have seen many of them before:

#1: X files Supressed Revolver....don't remember who makes it

#2: Cute little Beretta

#3: Old

#4: Old

#5: supressed nagant revolver....it works because the cylinder is pressed against the throat of the barrel during cocking

#6: Beryllium Copper frame and slide?

#7: Old

#8: Steyer Hahn Pistol...the first adopted Auto Loader for a military force???

#9: Ak-46???

#10: Russian contract FN pistol???

#11: you cocked it by pulling the trigger guard......

#12: Russian kid who got a ZPU for Christmas??? Lucky little commie bastard!!!

#13: LOUD ....I mean LOUD!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:41:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Okay, I can not identify most of these even though I have seen many of them before:

#1: X files Supressed Revolver....don't remember who makes it

#2: Cute little Beretta

#3: Old

#4: Old

#5: supressed nagant revolver....it works because the cylinder is pressed against the throat of the barrel during cocking

#6: Beryllium Copper frame and slide?

#7: Old

#8: Steyer Hahn Pistol...the first adopted Auto Loader for a military force???

#9: Ak-46???

#10: Russian contract FN pistol???

#11: you cocked it by pulling the trigger guard......

#12: Russian kid who got a ZPU for Christmas??? Lucky little commie bastard!!!

#13: LOUD ....I mean LOUD!!!!!



You're on the right track for number 6, but you're not quite there.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:43:30 AM EDT
Can I name the first one "Steve"?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:47:05 AM EDT

#12: Russian kid who got a ZPU for Christmas??? Lucky little commie bastard!!!


LOL

The last is a fake.

What do I win?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:50:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 8:56:59 AM EDT by BlammO]
#1 appears to be a replica of General Custer's Starlight Stealth Sniper Riflevolver™.

I believe #13 is the elusive HK MP21 chambered in a wildcat variant of .32 ACP, necked up to .308. Its claim to fame was the revolutionary horizontal flexi-clip. Although a solid performer in underwater testing, the HK MP21's military trials proved disappointing because the troops who tested it hated the unwieldy flexi-clip and the annoying Slinky-like noise it made.

In other words . . . tag!
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:52:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast:

#12: Russian kid who got a ZPU for Christmas??? Lucky little commie bastard!!!


LOL

The last is a fake.

What do I win?



Utter contempt, because it's an actual gun. Transferrable full-auto, currently for sale.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:58:18 AM EDT
6 looks like a Baby Eagle.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:00:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 9:18:11 AM EDT by gardenWeasel]
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Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:01:03 AM EDT
Number 13 is, SWEET!
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:06:15 AM EDT
where do you get a suppressed revolverifle. I like that ugly fucker.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:07:30 AM EDT
1) looks like an airgun of some kind

2) Looks like a Beretta, maybe even a Walther, of some kind..done up for competition shooting, some kind of euro competition thing.

3) Looks like some kind of precursor to a Jap Nambu?

4) no idea

5) no idea

6) Jericho?

7) Some kind of Steyr-Mannlicher carbine?

8) Steyr pistol, circa around 1900...one was used to axe Ferdinand, starting that late fracas known as The War to End All Wars..

9) Looks like an early Valmet

10) An FN of some kind, of course

11) No idea, but looks like a knockoff of a Colt 1908.

12) Don't know, but that's one bedroom I'll never be invading.

13) HK 51B I think.

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:12:10 AM EDT
There are no airguns, photoshops, or fakes. The ONE time I inserted one to see who caught it nobody did. Now everybody thinks every one of these threads has one or more fakes in it.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:13:01 AM EDT


#12) DShK 12.7-mm
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:15:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 9:18:26 AM EDT by gardenWeasel]

4 Looks like a Mauser 1878.
10 FN 1900 7.65mm
11 Lignose Einhand 3A
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:19:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 9:20:09 AM EDT by AgentFork]
Alright, I know the Israeli pistol is a Jericho 941 (or is it just 9, since it's obviously the 9x19). I think I know, at least.

Is the last one a Vollmer conversion of the HK 51?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:21:37 AM EDT
I'll take one of each please.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:22:31 AM EDT
1.)A modified Ruger Redhawk made up into a sniper rifle for SOCOM by KAC. Perfectly silent, and it won't leave brass behind. Chambered in 44 mag IIRC.

2.) No idea. .22 Caliber Beretta maybe?

3.) dunno

4.) Dunno

5.) dunno

6.) Baby eagle in 9mm

7.) Mannlicher of some sort

8.) Styer Hann pistol

9.)
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:34:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 9:53:07 AM EDT by darwindog]
Number 13 is an HK22 A3
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:35:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By darwindog:
Number 12 is an HK22 A3



Are you looking at the same number 12 as everybody else?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:53:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By darwindog:
Number 12 is an HK22 A3



Are you looking at the same number 12 as everybody else?



No I'm looking at 13........
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:55:01 AM EDT
#1 is a great pic of the Ruger "R Square" written as R2.

Integrally suppressed revolver/ rifle, with its own custom ammo. Almost unbelievably quiet, with undocumented but impressive terminal ballistics, made by Knight's Armament Company many years back.

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 10:06:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
You know the rules: identify each firearm pictured. If there's something unusual about that particular firearm (not the model, the exact gun pictured) try to guess what it is.
1) img86.imageshack.us/img86/3323/11250157966830co.jpg



No idea. It appears to be some sort of silenced Ruger revolver/carbine thingy.



2) img86.imageshack.us/img86/2972/11254729405753vk.jpg



Appears to be some sort of Beretta competition pistol in .22LR



3) img86.imageshack.us/img86/4846/11253551853690eq.jpg



I know what it is, but I can't think of the name at this moment! I think it was produced in very limited numbers around the same time as the Mauser C96.



4) img86.imageshack.us/img86/4685/11241554382163xn.jpg



Mauser Zig-Zag revolver.



5) img297.imageshack.us/img297/2158/nagsil6yf.jpg



Appears to be an attempt at a supressed Nagant or French production revolver??



6) img297.imageshack.us/img297/2622/jericho5ni.jpg
img297.imageshack.us/img297/2342/jericho26er.jpg



Easy. IMI Jericho pistol, also marketed by DE. Originally came in a convertible 9mm and .41 AE package. Currently marketed under the Desert Eagle banner as the Baby Eagle.



7) img90.imageshack.us/img90/9398/11235500244311an.jpg
img90.imageshack.us/img90/6329/m18958gs.jpg



Not sure. Looks like a crossbreed between a Carcano and a Mauser.



8) img90.imageshack.us/img90/6351/11373613915620jw.jpg
img90.imageshack.us/img90/9066/11373616903641xn.jpg



Easy. 1912 Steyr pistol. One of a very few auto pistols without a removable magazine. The C96 is another clip-loaded semi-auto.



9) img90.imageshack.us/img90/5028/11302204271034th.jpg



No idea, but perhaps it is a different design based on the STMG 44??



10) img90.imageshack.us/img90/8521/11290147532472ox.jpg



1900 Browning designed FN pistol. One like it helped start WWI.



11) img90.imageshack.us/img90/593/11265265399532fx.jpg



Another one that I know but can't remember the exact model number....Lignose A3 perhaps?



12) img90.imageshack.us/img90/7416/11379394003249ym.jpg



Some sort of Russian heavy machine gun, but I don't know which one.



13) img90.imageshack.us/img90/2108/11261961504200mb.jpg



A conversion of some sort?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 11:11:07 AM EDT
13) Is an HK91 converted to a model 51B (beltfed), by the now defunct F.J. Vollmer Co. in Bloomington, Il.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 11:28:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 11:34:06 AM EDT by Makarov]
#4) Webley-Fosbury Auto revolver. (just a guess)

#7) Steyr M95 cut to carbine length after WWI.

#8) Steyr-Hahn model 1912 pistol.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 1:44:41 PM EDT
So far every single one except #9 has been correctly identified, though no one has yet to correctly identify all of them. Also, nobody pointed out what was special about #6, though someone had the right idea.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 2:18:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 2:21:00 PM EDT by John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
So far every single one except #9 has been correctly identified, though no one has yet to correctly identify all of them. Also, nobody pointed out what was special about #6, though someone had the right idea.



It has a slide mounted safety as opposed to the traditional frame mounted safety.

I didn't know you wanted that much detail.

BTW -- You have to post who got the most correct. Braggin' rights is 'potent, dontcha know...
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 2:59:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
So far every single one except #9 has been correctly identified, though no one has yet to correctly identify all of them. Also, nobody pointed out what was special about #6, though someone had the right idea.



It has a slide mounted safety as opposed to the traditional frame mounted safety.

I didn't know you wanted that much detail.

BTW -- You have to post who got the most correct. Braggin' rights is 'potent, dontcha know...



No, dagnabit. You don't notice anything slightly unusual about that pistol compared to all others? I stated there was something unusual about the SPECIFIC FIREARM PICTURED, not the model. One person had the right idea but the wrong guess. It isn't difficult to look and see who guessed what and figure it out.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:45:19 PM EDT
6) Titanium Gold finish.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:50:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
No, dagnabit. You don't notice anything slightly unusual about that pistol compared to all others? I stated there was something unusual about the SPECIFIC FIREARM PICTURED, not the model.



Other than the finish being some wierd color, no. Isn't that one of the weird Titanium finishes that Magnum Research offers? After searching it appears that they now have slide mounted safeties on several models.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:04:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By osprey21:
6) Titanium Gold finish.




Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
No, dagnabit. You don't notice anything slightly unusual about that pistol compared to all others? I stated there was something unusual about the SPECIFIC FIREARM PICTURED, not the model.



Other than the finish being some wierd color, no. Isn't that one of the weird Titanium finishes that Magnum Research offers? After searching it appears that they now have slide mounted safeties on several models.



Yay.

Answers forthcoming.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:14:26 PM EDT
1)Ruger "R Square", done by Knights Armament
2)Some sort of competition Beretta
3) Some sort of Steyr clip-fed pistol, no magazine
4) Mauser Zig-Zag revolver
5) Supressed Nagant revolver
6) "Baby Eagle" Jericho 941 with titanium nitrate finish
7) Steyr-Mannlicher M1895 carbine
8.) Steyr Hann pistol
9) Your guess is as good as mine
10 FN 1900
11 Lignose Einhander 3A
12) DShK 12.7-mm
13) HK91 converted to a model 51B (beltfed)

Figure out how many right answers you got and if you got the most, give yourself a cookie. Yay!

Next time I think I'm gonna just stick to ID'ing the firearms themselves, the weird finish was just too difficult.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:18:37 PM EDT
#4 very early smith & wesson russian
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:32:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CSM:
#4 very early smith & wesson russian



No.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:38:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 9:39:48 PM EDT by LonePathfinder]
Number 7 is a Steyr Mannlicher M95 that featured a en-block clip a soldier would load which would then push a round up ever time the bolt worked, and when the flip was empty it would fall out the bottom of the mag well. THe soldier then simply put in a new en-bloc clip.

Problem was that the clip went in one specific way, and it was easy to get it started upside down only to have it jam.

Another problem was that a hole at the bottom of the mag well allowed a lot of dirty and mud into the action.

It also features a straight pull bolt.

Many were reworked over the years for second line troops. Using more common calibers they ditched the en-block feature and put in a regular magazine.

Edit, slightly late, but I didn't look at someone elses paper, honest!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 12:16:16 AM EDT
9) some obscure A.I. Sudayev prototype?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 12:37:28 AM EDT




So what is it?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 3:31:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Next time I think I'm gonna just stick to ID'ing the firearms themselves, the weird finish was just too difficult.



It's not that it was difficult to notice, as I noticed the finish was one of those Titanium types from the getgo.

The problem was that I didn't realize the titanium finish was all that "unique", especially considering the slide mounted safety.

Then again, I haven't paid much attention to Jericho pistols lately.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 4:51:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Makarov:
#4) Webley-Fosbury Auto revolver. (just a guess)

#7) Steyr M95 cut to carbine length after WWI.

#8) Steyr-Hahn model 1912 pistol.



#7....definitely an as built carbine or stutzen, notice the rear sight leaf, it is short. If it was a cut down long rifle, it would have a long rear sight leaf. It has been converted to 8x56R post WWI...
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 12:32:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pzjgr:

Originally Posted By Makarov:
#4) Webley-Fosbury Auto revolver. (just a guess)

#7) Steyr M95 cut to carbine length after WWI.

#8) Steyr-Hahn model 1912 pistol.



#7....definitely an as built carbine or stutzen, notice the rear sight leaf, it is short. If it was a cut down long rifle, it would have a long rear sight leaf. It has been converted to 8x56R post WWI...



Yup. Police-issued carbine. A friend of mine has one, it's a very neat rifle. If I could get hold of him I'd hook up now that I found someplace that sells the ammo.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 12:35:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By pzjgr:

Originally Posted By Makarov:
#4) Webley-Fosbury Auto revolver. (just a guess)

#7) Steyr M95 cut to carbine length after WWI.

#8) Steyr-Hahn model 1912 pistol.



#7....definitely an as built carbine or stutzen, notice the rear sight leaf, it is short. If it was a cut down long rifle, it would have a long rear sight leaf. It has been converted to 8x56R post WWI...



Yup. Police-issued carbine. A friend of mine has one, it's a very neat rifle. If I could get hold of him I'd hook up now that I found someplace that sells the ammo.



I've had several M95's over the years...my last one was a nice WWI Bringback Steyer...still in original 8x50R in the original walnut stock...first one I ever owned unconverted. Held on to it for a while then dumped it to a buddy...I have to try to maintain my collecting discipline! I usually end up losing....
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 1:57:45 PM EDT
I know you said #2 has been guessed and everyone said it is a Beretta pistol, but it is a dead ringer for a French Unique Model D6 pistol except with a longer barrel.

LL
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 2:13:13 PM EDT
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