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Posted: 1/23/2006 10:50:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 10:53:27 AM EDT by Airwolf]
Just got this in email.


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AOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin January 23, 2006
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A special notice to AOPA members in the southern Arizona and
New Mexico areas


==> ATTENTION PILOTS <==

FAA TO ESTABLISH TFR OVER SOUTHERN ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO ON TUESDAY
AOPA is sending this message to advise pilots near the southern portions
of Arizona and New Mexico that the FAA has issued a security-related
notam restricting flight in those areas beginning Tuesday, January 24,
and continuing through December 31, 2006, for U.S. Customs Border
Patrol unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) operations.

The TFR stretches across more than 300 nautical miles of the southern
portions of these states and will be in effect daily from 5 p.m. to 7 a.m.
local, extending from 12,000 feet msl to 14,000 feet msl. The TFR extends
from about 30 nm east of the Columbus VOR/DME in Columbus, New Mexico,
to about 20 nm southwest of Ajo Municipal Airport (P01) in Ajo, Arizona.
It joins the U.S./Mexican border and is 15 nm wide in most places.
Air traffic control may clear aircraft through the airspace; however,
pilots must remain on a discrete transponder code and maintain two-way
communications with ATC while operating within the TFR.

See AOPA Online for the full text of the notam along with the lines of
latitude and longitude that detail the exact boundaries of the TFR
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#6/0798 ).
A graphical depiction is also available online
( http://www.aopa.org/images/whatsnew/newsitems/2006/notams/6-0798.jpg ).

This TFR encompasses the security-related TFR near Nogales, Arizona,
that went into effect January 8.

"Even though the TFR is limited to 12,000 to 14,000 feet and overnight
hours, AOPA believes that the use of "temporary" large-scale flight
restrictions for yearlong UAV operations is not appropriate," said
Melissa Rudinger, AOPA vice president of regulatory affairs. "We
are appealing to the FAA and security officials for less restrictive
alternatives for these types of operations."

Because TFR airspace frequently changes, AOPA strongly encourages
pilots to obtain a briefing and CHECK NOTAMS before every flight.
TFR violators will be intercepted and forced to land.

ETA: Here's the graphic of the area covered...

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:13:53 AM EDT
Wonder if they will be Hellfire equipped
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:18:09 AM EDT
great, now they can lay some claymores.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:18:53 AM EDT


'bout fucking time...



Bigfeet
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:20:39 AM EDT
Perfect...now the "enemy" will know exactly what area to avoid and the time to avoid it...
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:22:10 AM EDT
One of our local AFB's got 20 Predators last year
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:23:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By madjack956:
Perfect...now the "enemy" will know exactly what area to avoid and the time to avoid it...



At least it's a move in the right direction.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:28:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By madjack956:
Perfect...now the "enemy" will know exactly what area to avoid and the time to avoid it...



Well, since the operation is not in Class A airspace (FL 180 and above) there can be uncontrolled traffic to cause a collision hazard.

The ops are nighttime (1700-0700 local) so that means that they have to cross in the daytime if they want to avoid the UAV's which I think isn't a bad idea at all... espeically if they have the program in full swing come summer.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:29:17 AM EDT
Great, the Predators can take their pictures so that their drivers' licenses can be waiting for them when they get across.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 2:57:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ClayP:
Great, the Predators can take their pictures so that their drivers' licenses can be waiting for them when they get across.



+25Million
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:02:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ClayP:
Great, the Predators can take their pictures so that their drivers' licenses can be waiting for them when they get across.





So sad but true.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:04:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CS223:
Wonder if they will be Hellfire Rockeye equipped

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:08:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ClayP:
Great, the Predators can take their pictures so that their drivers' licenses can be waiting for them when they get across.

Damn, I'm glad somebody else thought of that.

all this is is smoke and mirrors, they spend our money to essentially do nothing. Wow they might get a picture, but what are they gonna do with that? Frame it? Remember it is racial profiling to ask a hispanic looking person for proof of citizenship
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:10:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 52brandon:

Originally Posted By ClayP:
Great, the Predators can take their pictures so that their drivers' licenses can be waiting for them when they get across.

Damn, I'm glad somebody else thought of that.

all this is is smoke and mirrors, they spend our money to essentially do nothing. Wow they might get a picture, but what are they gonna do with that? Frame it? Remember it is racial profiling to ask a hispanic looking person for proof of citizenship



You know I forgot about that.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:13:51 PM EDT
What is with the double border markings?
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