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Posted: 1/22/2006 12:05:47 AM EDT
30-06 just looks mean by comparison.

Yikes.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:06:39 AM EDT
Pics?
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:07:03 AM EDT
In other news, the sky is blue, and oil is still cheap.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:08:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:08:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ElCamino:
In other news, the sky is blue, and oil is still cheap.



And where the fuck are you buying your oil? Cause it sure as shit aint "cheap" from where I'm standin.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:09:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:10:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 12:11:08 AM EDT by ElCamino]

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ElCamino:
In other news, the sky is blue, and oil is still cheap.



And where the fuck are you buying your oil? Cause it sure as shit aint "cheap" from where I'm standin.



Compared to the rest of the world it is.

Call me when you pay $6 a gallon, and I'll be more inclined to think the sky is falling.

ETA: BTW, you completely and totally ruined my cheap shot. Thanks a lot buddy.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:11:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 12:11:43 AM EDT by Specop_007]

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ElCamino:
In other news, the sky is blue, and oil is still cheap.



And where the fuck are you buying your oil? Cause it sure as shit aint "cheap" from where I'm standin.



Compared to the rest of the world it is.

Call me when you pay $6 a gallon, and I'll be more inclined to think the sky is falling.



If you understood why the rest of the world pays that, I would discuss it with you.
Since you dont, keep up the assinine statements.

*EDIT* No problem.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:12:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ElCamino:
In other news, the sky is blue, and oil is still cheap.



And where the fuck are you buying your oil? Cause it sure as shit aint "cheap" from where I'm standin.



Compared to the rest of the world it is.

Call me when you pay $6 a gallon, and I'll be more inclined to think the sky is falling.



If you understood why the rest of the world pays that, I would discuss it with you.
Since you dont, keep up the assinine statements.





Somebody needs some Midol
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:12:16 AM EDT
A .50 BMG next to a 30.06 looks meaner
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:13:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ElCamino:
In other news, the sky is blue, and oil is still cheap.



And where the fuck are you buying your oil? Cause it sure as shit aint "cheap" from where I'm standin.



Where are you standing?



Looking at near record highs for crude prices, and gas prices (in my area) at almost all time highs as well.
Now maybe you guys are some serious high rollers, but I cant remember paying less then a buck for a gallon of gas. I can remember (not too long ago) paying 1.75. Its 2.30 now. I cant remember many times paying much more then that.

But hey, if record prices for crude/gas/LP and rising prices all across the board due to energy costs is "still cheap" then more power to you.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:13:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
A .50 BMG next to a 30.06 looks meaner
img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/twonami/103_0366.jpg



A clean carpet looks nicer
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:14:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ElCamino:
In other news, the sky is blue, and oil is still cheap.



And where the fuck are you buying your oil? Cause it sure as shit aint "cheap" from where I'm standin.



Compared to the rest of the world it is.

Call me when you pay $6 a gallon, and I'll be more inclined to think the sky is falling.



If you understood why the rest of the world pays that, I would discuss it with you.
Since you dont, keep up the assinine statements.





Somebody needs some Midol



And somebody needs an education.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:14:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Peak_Oil:

Originally Posted By twonami:
A .50 BMG next to a 30.06 looks meaner
img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/twonami/103_0366.jpg



A clean carpet looks nicer


not bad for a shop carpet
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:14:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:16:03 AM EDT
twonami, your not helping.
I've been trying to convince myself I dont need a .50, pics like that are undoing months of mental training and therapy.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:16:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Now maybe you guys are some serious high rollers, but I cant remember paying less then a buck for a gallon of gas. I can remember (not too long ago) paying 1.75. Its 2.30 now. I cant remember many times paying much more then that.

But hey, if record prices for crude/gas/LP and rising prices all across the board due to energy costs is "still cheap" then more power to you.




Gas here is cheaper than it was 3-4 months ago.

How old are you? I'm only 22 and I can remember .88 a gallon.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:16:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By twonami:
A .50 BMG next to a 30.06 looks meaner
img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/twonami/103_0366.jpg



Geez...that .50 can really tear some things up. I've seen the damage up close.



Pics?
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:17:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 12:19:41 AM EDT by ElCamino]

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

And somebody needs an education.



You must be a lot of fun at parties. If they have parties in Kansas.

ETA:

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:18:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Pics?



When the CMP garand comes in, you bet your sw@@t bippy
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:18:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:18:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

And somebody needs an education.



You must be a lot of fun at parties. If they have parties in Kansas.



The life of the party in fact.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to reading Tax Laws 2005.

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:19:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By twonami:
A .50 BMG next to a 30.06 looks meaner
img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/twonami/103_0366.jpg



Geez...that .50 can really tear some things up. I've seen the damage up close.



Pics?



I used to have them. Quite graphic. I lent them to a friend of mine...8 years ago.



No pics?

Go stand in the corner for 5 minutes and think about what you've done.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:21:29 AM EDT
a better picture for scale
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:23:15 AM EDT
$100 a barrel before the year is done.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:23:38 AM EDT
This is true
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:25:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
$100 a barrel before the year is done.



Don't be so negative. It really harshes my vibe.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:26:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
$100 a barrel before the year is done.



Or more if the Iran / Nigeria situations go to shit.

Who knows. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:27:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
$100 a barrel before the year is done.



Or more if the Iran / Nigeria situations go to shit.

Who knows. Guess we'll find out soon enough.



Better start taking your blood pressure meds now.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:32:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
$100 a barrel before the year is done.



Or more if the Iran / Nigeria situations go to shit.

Who knows. Guess we'll find out soon enough.



Better start taking your blood pressure meds now.



I took them this morning.
Is it time for them again already? Damnit.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:42:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
$100 a barrel before the year is done.



Or more if the Iran / Nigeria situations go to shit.

Who knows. Guess we'll find out soon enough.



Exactly. Oil futures maybe a good investment. Iran makes 10% of the oil production in the world. If Saudi Arabia and the other OPEC and other oil producers dont make up the shortfall, the price will go through the roof.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:50:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
$100 a barrel before the year is done.



Or more if the Iran / Nigeria situations go to shit.

Who knows. Guess we'll find out soon enough.



Exactly. Oil futures maybe a good investment. Iran makes 10% of the oil production in the world. If Saudi Arabia and the other OPEC and other oil producers dont make up the shortfall, the price will go through the roof.



Closer to 7% I think, and less then that if you look at just exports.
Either way, oil futures are still a good investment for those willing to brave the futures water.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 5:59:12 AM EDT
A 30-06 round is considerably longer than a 7.62x39 round

Yep, about 24 mm longer.

B_S
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:11:39 AM EDT
Basketball players tend to be tall
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:12:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
a better picture for scale
img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/twonami/103_0367.jpg



that's a damn big picture you've got there


and how the Fv<k did this get so completely hijacked into a catfight over gas prices?

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:18:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 6:19:49 AM EDT by gus]

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Looking at near record highs for crude prices, and gas prices (in my area) at almost all time highs as well.
Now maybe you guys are some serious high rollers, but I cant remember paying less then a buck for a gallon of gas. I can remember (not too long ago) paying 1.75. Its 2.30 now. I cant remember many times paying much more then that.

But hey, if record prices for crude/gas/LP and rising prices all across the board due to energy costs is "still cheap" then more power to you.



Well, I can remember 32 cents a gallon. I have paid as little as 70 cents and I started driving in 1977. Now if you want to compare the prices now vs then taking into account overall inflation, median income, and cost of living, and consider that taxes are a large part of why gas is expensive, $2.30 is only slightly higher now than 70 cents was in 1977. It's really close to being equal.

Education is a wonderful thing.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:19:44 AM EDT
In '98 I was paying $0.88-$0.95 for gas.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:20:04 AM EDT
...or just a shower to get the sand out of his...well...you know...


Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
If you understood why the rest of the world pays that, I would discuss it with you.
Since you dont, keep up the assinine statements.





Somebody needs some Midol

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:21:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 6:24:33 AM EDT by gus]

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
In '98 I was paying $0.88-$0.95 for gas.



Same here. But that was after having paid as much as $1.45 only a few short years before that. In `98, crude was around $15 a barrel IIRC.



ETA: for thread content - 20mm is a considerably longer round than .22 LR.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:35:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gus:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Looking at near record highs for crude prices, and gas prices (in my area) at almost all time highs as well.
Now maybe you guys are some serious high rollers, but I cant remember paying less then a buck for a gallon of gas. I can remember (not too long ago) paying 1.75. Its 2.30 now. I cant remember many times paying much more then that.

But hey, if record prices for crude/gas/LP and rising prices all across the board due to energy costs is "still cheap" then more power to you.



Well, I can remember 32 cents a gallon. I have paid as little as 70 cents and I started driving in 1977. Now if you want to compare the prices now vs then taking into account overall inflation, median income, and cost of living, and consider that taxes are a large part of why gas is expensive, $2.30 is only slightly higher now than 70 cents was in 1977. It's really close to being equal.

Education is a wonderful thing.



Yes, but budgets arent set by prices of inflation.
You dont put off buying a house now because in 10 years it would be worth more and thus have more property taxes.
Same with buying a car. I dont choose to not buy an SUV now because in 5 years gas prices MIGHT be 5 a gallon.
And on top of all of that, to simply use gas prices as an indicator is very short sighted. Crude prices affect virtually every faucet of our lives, from heating our homes to filling our cars to putting food on the table to making the things we buy.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:44:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Yes, but budgets arent set by prices of inflation.
You dont put off buying a house now because in 10 years it would be worth more and thus have more property taxes.
Same with buying a car. I dont choose to not buy an SUV now because in 5 years gas prices MIGHT be 5 a gallon.


Always got to love an 10MPG SUV owner complaining about gas / oil prices.

As for the oil prices... oh what's the use, the Big Oil apologists will never see reason. Probably because they are the ones artificially pushing the prices up on the futures market.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:46:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 6:54:29 AM EDT by gus]

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By gus:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Looking at near record highs for crude prices, and gas prices (in my area) at almost all time highs as well.
Now maybe you guys are some serious high rollers, but I cant remember paying less then a buck for a gallon of gas. I can remember (not too long ago) paying 1.75. Its 2.30 now. I cant remember many times paying much more then that.

But hey, if record prices for crude/gas/LP and rising prices all across the board due to energy costs is "still cheap" then more power to you.



Well, I can remember 32 cents a gallon. I have paid as little as 70 cents and I started driving in 1977. Now if you want to compare the prices now vs then taking into account overall inflation, median income, and cost of living, and consider that taxes are a large part of why gas is expensive, $2.30 is only slightly higher now than 70 cents was in 1977. It's really close to being equal.

Education is a wonderful thing.



Yes, but budgets arent set by prices of inflation.
You dont put off buying a house now because in 10 years it would be worth more and thus have more property taxes.
Same with buying a car. I dont choose to not buy an SUV now because in 5 years gas prices MIGHT be 5 a gallon.
And on top of all of that, to simply use gas prices as an indicator is very short sighted. Crude prices affect virtually every faucet of our lives, from heating our homes to filling our cars to putting food on the table to making the things we buy.



The fact is that all through the 1980's and most of the 1990's, gas prices were artificially low. That's how they managed to raise the taxes so high without anyone really complaining about it. I'm not saying they held prices down to do that ("they" can't do that), just that they raised taxes while they could.

You're looking at gas prices vs a few years ago. Since fuel (oil, gas, LPG, whatever) varies more in price than most other commodities, the only fair way to compare its impact is long term.


ETA: You also have to consider the effect the enviro nazi's have had - like requiring scores of different formulations to be produced when perhaps a dozen or so formulations would suffice. I'd bet that has almost as much effect on the currently high gasoline prices at the pump as the high cost of crude does.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:48:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 6:49:26 AM EDT by bookertbab]

Originally Posted By twonami:
A .50 BMG next to a 30.06 looks meaner
img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/twonami/103_0366.jpg



Did you know the 50BMG is just a scaled up version of the 30-06?
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:10:06 AM EDT
Most schizophrenic thread ever.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:16:13 AM EDT
In Metric: 30-06 = 7.62x63mm
.308 = 7.62x51mm

Considerably larger than 7.62x39mm or 5.56 NATO
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:18:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By No_Serfing:
Most schizophrenic thread ever.





Yeah it isn't!!
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:24:41 AM EDT
Why yes....yes it is.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:25:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 11:47:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:

and how the Fv<k did this get so completely hijacked into a catfight over gas prices?




I made a comment in jest and somebody freaked the fuck out, that's how.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:33:16 PM EDT
I would like to know the purpose of this thread....
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:47:57 PM EDT
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