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Posted: 1/21/2006 11:35:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:35:29 PM EDT by remedy]
I know, I know... how dare someone say that shit on AR15.com lol...

I've been thinking about shooting some iron sights lately and getting maybe an old .30 carbine or something... What are some cool rifles that are pretty affordable and easy to get ammo for? Anything from oldschool military to new/modern. Anything except for .22 LR... Need recommendations.

I kinda feel like if I get into another rifle, I'll spend less money because it won't need a ton of ammo and enticing rails and gadgets to bolt on..... probably not even need optics


- rem
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:38:11 PM EDT
You can't go wrong with an M1 carbine. They are small and light, fairly accurate, and the lack of recoil makes them a fun all-day shooter (if you can afford that much ammo).
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:38:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:39:51 PM EDT by 82ndAbn]
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:38:31 PM EDT
SKS
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:11:46 AM EDT
10/22s or Glocks
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:28:03 AM EDT
BAR
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:37:25 AM EDT
Beretta Storm in 9mm
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:43:59 AM EDT
I have a great time shooting all of them. I really enjoy my muzzel loaders.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:57:05 AM EDT
What else have you got?

Looking for a rifle or a handgun?


AK
FAL
M1

Gl­ock is my choice for a handgun
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:13:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 1:13:57 AM EDT by GackMan]
Sharps 45-110...

You said Iron sights and fun!
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:37:39 AM EDT
According to Texas/Dallas SWAT the SKS and AK47 are the 'deadliest weapons in the world' so I would run out and pick up one of those. I mean both.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:42:11 AM EDT
leverguns and break open single shots. I have so much damn fun with them. Get 2 break open shot gun.22 combo guns and race a friend to see who can shoot faster. I do not know why, but I have so much fun with break opens.

Lever/pump guns too. I guess being more involved in the working of the gun's action adds to the fun factor for me.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:43:35 AM EDT
An AR50 makes a nice substitute.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:48:08 AM EDT
M1 Garand

FAL
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 2:14:49 AM EDT
Garand, baby. If you haven't shot one, try it. After you try it you will want one. Nothing quite like 'em.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 2:15:07 AM EDT
Marlin 1894C .357 mag lever action.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 4:15:20 AM EDT
Garand or M1A

failing that, get a CETME with the brake installed.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 4:35:06 AM EDT


cz58
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 4:38:04 AM EDT
Garand
Lever Action Marlin/Winnie in .357
SKS
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 4:38:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 4:41:48 AM EDT by ED_P]
M1 Carbines are fun, but the ammo can be a bit pricier.

Yugo SKS's are cheap (~$200 or so for best condition) and ammo is reasonable. They'd be my first choice.

If you don't own a Keltec Sub-2000, you can buy one in 9mm or .40 for around $299.

Get one that uses the same mags as whatever pistol you own. They make them for Sig, Glock 17,19, and 22, S&W, and Beretta mags.

They're light, can be shot without hearing protection comfortably, and use cheap handgun ammo. The longer barrel increases muzzle energy making the bullet have better ballistics much further out than handgun length barrels.

Plus they're concealable as they fold in half, and can shoot HP ammo with no issues, and they're made in Florida.

Their only downside is a very heavy trigger pull, but that improves after 300-500 rounds.

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:33:39 AM EDT
Marlin 1894 or 1894C
M1 Carbine
CZ bolt rifle in .221 Fireball
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:44:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bigdb1:
Marlin 1894C .357 mag lever action.




Probably one of THE most fun guns I have ever shot. I love mine.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:53:47 AM EDT
An old milsurp rifle. I love my Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.2, and plan on getting a No.1 Mk.3 sometime in the near future. Really fun, pretty cheap, but ammo is almost as expensive as .30-06.
I imagine that an SKS or a Mosin-Nagant would be your best bet as far as cheap gun, cheap ammo and fun factor.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:01:01 AM EDT
Any AK or M-14 (truly a Manly firearm!)
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:01:43 AM EDT
Mosin Nagant or Mauser, cheap and make some big booms
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:01:50 AM EDT
SKS, M44, MN91/30, M38, K98 mausers, Garands of course.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:03:30 AM EDT
HK USC/UMP

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:19:40 AM EDT
Ruger PC9- but only after it has a trigger job. Kind of like a cross between a 10/22, and an M1 Carbine, with the cost of ammo split right down the middle.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:23:55 AM EDT
Fun guns other than AR15 type:
AR180
AR10
M1 Carbine
SKS
Garand
03A3
Savage 10FP
Savage 110FP

At least that's what I have.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:25:51 AM EDT
M1 Carbine
SKS M59/66 (more so with the grenade adapter/tennis ball being launched)
Any .22LR
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:27:41 AM EDT
M1 Carbine
M1 Garand
AK-47
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:27:42 AM EDT
+1 on the SKS. Affordable, and a blast to shoot.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:31:59 AM EDT
10/22!
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:35:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:
I have a great time shooting all of them. I really enjoy my muzzel loaders.



Same here.. I love shootin them
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:39:36 AM EDT
Yugo SKS 59/66 (arsenal rebuilt and unissued condition). They are readily available at most any gun-show: $185

1000 rounds of Wolfe 7.62x39mm ammo: $115

I can't imagine anymore fun for $300 or less.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:39:39 AM EDT
Anything that goes bang!
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:41:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 7:42:22 AM EDT by ChairborneRanger]
M1 Carbine---they're fun and cute---kind of like a .22 on steroids. There are some comments about the Garand, but, I've never thought of it as 'fun to shoot'----lots of power, but kind of like dragging around an 8 X 8.

Another one---a Thompson Submacinegun----now that's fun!!
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:43:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:49:14 AM EDT
Phased plasma in the 40 watt range.(I can't believe I was the first)
AK
FAL
.30 Carbine
Kel-Tec Sub2000
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:50:13 AM EDT
Any Mosin Nagant. The ammo is cheap, and the guns are $50-$300, depending on the model

I gots me an M44, and save for a dead shoulder, have no regrets.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:57:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RaynoEleven:
Garand, baby. If you haven't shot one, try it. After you try it you will want one. Nothing quite like 'em.



+1
The Friday before the new year I got to go shoot some class 3 stuff (krinkov, hk mp5k, m16/m4) and was also able to shoot a garand.
THAT was cooler (in a sense) than the fully auto stuff!
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 8:01:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 8:01:51 AM EDT by FNC80]
Courtesy of the California Dept. of Justice:

AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, AK74
UZI and Galil.
Beretta AR-70.
CETME Sporter.
Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110 C.
Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
MAS 223.
HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1
RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
SKS
SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
Sterling MK-6.
Steyer AUG.
Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
Armalite AR-180.
Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
Calico M-900.
J&R ENG M-68.
Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
Striker 12.
Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 8:07:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FNC80:
Courtesy of the California Dept. of Justice:

AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, AK74
UZI and Galil.
Beretta AR-70.
CETME Sporter.
Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110 C.
Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
MAS 223.
HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1
RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
SKS
SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
Sterling MK-6.
Steyer AUG.
Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
Armalite AR-180.
Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
Calico M-900.
J&R ENG M-68.
Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
Striker 12.
Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.






Is this the 'allowed' list or the 'prohibited' list

and which one, exactly, is the Bushmaster Assault Rifle
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 8:10:59 AM EDT
This is the original bad list. Here's the Bushmaster:

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 8:39:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By yekimak:
leverguns and break open single shots. I have so much damn fun with them. Get 2 break open shot gun.22 combo guns and race a friend to see who can shoot faster. I do not know why, but I have so much fun with break opens.

Lever/pump guns too. I guess being more involved in the working of the gun's action adds to the fun factor for me.



I agree, operating the action adds to the fun and slows down consumption rate of ammo, allowing you to shoot longer, albeit with less shots downrange.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 8:45:31 AM EDT
Daisy Red Rider.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 9:58:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 9:59:19 AM EDT by Lon_Moer]
I love FALs. I now have more FALs than ARs.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 10:01:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 10:11:04 AM EDT by FREEFALLE7]
AKs are fun.

I built both of these for around $400

$178 for 2 parts kit
$100 for 2x receivers
$14 2x setsrivots
$12 bluing/paint
$68 2x FCG

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 10:01:43 AM EDT
AKs, Cetme, and 91/30 here.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 10:08:41 AM EDT
The M1A Scout Squad with a Red Dot optic is just plain wicked....lot's of fun!!!
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 10:12:51 AM EDT
WHat are these 'other rifles' that you speak of? YOu mean those abominations of wood and metal? THat lack even the most rudimentary 'tactical black' look?

Heathen!!! Off with his head!!!!
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