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Posted: 1/21/2006 4:14:41 PM EDT
How do you guys view thier reliability over others. Mainly their 16. M4A3
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:15:07 PM EDT
no issues here.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:15:13 PM EDT
Just as good as any of the other brands, including colt.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:15:53 PM EDT
will they take a beating? dirt and all?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:16:27 PM EDT
I have had mine since 9/04. Not one malfunction whatsoever, as of yet.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:17:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Just as good as any of the other brands, including colt.

+1
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:19:18 PM EDT
what parts if any vary from say RRA or colt. Springs etc
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:47:04 PM EDT
I had problems with the bolt not cycling right on my 20", found that the screws that hold the bolt carrier key had loosened up. It works fine now that I pulled them out and reinstalled them using some Locktite. I still need to stake them in place to permanently fix the problem. They loosened up because they were not properly staked in place at the factory.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:50:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 5:50:50 PM EDT by metroplex]
Check for a tight chamber (polishing with 1000 - 2000 grit paper works) and a loose gas key. ETA: SOME Bushmasters are known to short stroke with Wolf ammo and underpowered .223 ammo.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 4:57:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mr-H:
I have had mine since 9/04. Not one malfunction whatsoever, as of yet.



+1 Same here not a single hiccup of any kind.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 5:44:01 PM EDT
Mine has run flawlessly with everthing I throw at it including WOLF . And I'm not a fanatic about keeping it clean either .
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 5:45:58 PM EDT
Have 2 Bushies shoot Wolf no issues!!!
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 5:47:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:
Check for a tight chamber (polishing with 1000 - 2000 grit paper works) and a loose gas key. Bushmasters are known to short stroke with Wolf ammo and underpowered .223 ammo.



Known by who?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 5:48:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:
Bushmasters are known to short stroke with Wolf ammo and underpowered .223 ammo.



Link Posted: 1/21/2006 5:50:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 5:52:05 PM EDT by metroplex]

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By metroplex:
Check for a tight chamber (polishing with 1000 - 2000 grit paper works) and a loose gas key. Bushmasters are known to short stroke with Wolf ammo and underpowered .223 ammo.



Known by who?



A whole bunch of people in the troubleshooting forum about 6 months ago. They were springing out of the wet work.

My Bushmaster barrel had a fairly rough chamber, it looked like they needed a new reamer or something.
The gas port was sized properly, and the front sight was installed correctly. My gas key was loose though, so I lapped the sealing surface and applied a sealant along with loctite on the gas key screws. I staked the screws down afterwards just for extra insurance. Last I checked, it finally cycled Wolf properly. Prior to this, my AR-15 no longer functioned as a semi-auto when shooting Wolf.

I should have said SOME Bushmasters. I didn't mean ALL of them.
That'll teach me not to drink and post at the same time
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:02:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By metroplex:
Check for a tight chamber (polishing with 1000 - 2000 grit paper works) and a loose gas key. Bushmasters are known to short stroke with Wolf ammo and underpowered .223 ammo.



Known by who?



Mine will short stoke if I use Wolf.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:04:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 2A373:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By metroplex:
Check for a tight chamber (polishing with 1000 - 2000 grit paper works) and a loose gas key. Bushmasters are known to short stroke with Wolf ammo and underpowered .223 ammo.



Known by who?



Mine will short stoke if I use Wolf.



I shoot wolf 75% of the time out of my 20" Bushy with no problems.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:04:58 PM EDT
no problems with my collection
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:12:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By djohns6:
Mine has run flawlessly with everthing I throw at it including WOLF . And I'm not a fanatic about keeping it clean either .



+1

SG
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:13:11 PM EDT
I love my Bushy M4gery. I've had zero problems (knock on wood) since I purchased it (over 3 years and 10k + rounds threw it). I even have a couple of gas rings that have excessive gap/ space, no issues here.

It's the A2 I bought that pisses me off. The rear sight is way out of whack, needs about 8- 10 clicks to the left to hit anything at 100 yds. There was a tacked thread in the AR disc about this problem a while back. Regardless, they are both VERY reliable. I'm plannning on another M4gery soon.

-- VT
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:14:41 PM EDT
The only thing is to look out for loose gas keys.

Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:15:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ScaryGuy:

Originally Posted By djohns6:
Mine has run flawlessly with everthing I throw at it including WOLF . And I'm not a fanatic about keeping it clean either .



+1

SG



+2
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:19:29 PM EDT
Several bushys here...
Absolutly love'em!
No stroke problems here.

Not like that you pervs!
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:20:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 6:21:01 PM EDT by EPOCH96]

Originally Posted By Desert_Cowboy:

Originally Posted By ScaryGuy:

Originally Posted By djohns6:
Mine has run flawlessly with everthing I throw at it including WOLF . And I'm not a fanatic about keeping it clean either .



+1

SG



+2



+3

wolf, WWB, barnaul, reloads, 5.56 or 223, not a single problem. I've even nicknamed her Sally.

Because she will eat anything...



EPOCH
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:21:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 6:23:36 PM EDT by WildBoar]

Originally Posted By Arsenal:
How do you guys view thier reliability over others. Mainly their 16. M4A3



They dont make either for the military but the civie versions are fine.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:23:20 PM EDT
Mine goes bang 100% of the time. Never tried Wolf in it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:24:36 PM EDT
mine is doing just fine... and my guns get used hard(the ones that aren't safe queens, that is)


Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:32:06 PM EDT
My 14.5" Bushy has just gone somewhere over 9000 rounds, I've had zero problems, My 20" Bushy has also had no problems, it has around 2500-3000 rounds; Both still shoot fine, with no loss of accuracy, at least noticibly, even in the 14.5", and I'm sure both will last a long time, as long as any other quality manufacurer's rifle. Both rifles even fire Wolf fine
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:45:15 PM EDT
well with any brand you are gonna get lemons. But I have had good experiences with bushmaster every time.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 6:49:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 6:51:07 PM EDT by 2A373]
I guess I got one that was made on a Friday afternoon before a three day weekend.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:00:53 PM EDT
Loose gaskey here. Happened at a carbine course but she kept running.
If it had loosened up completely I am sure it would have malfunctioned. Repaired on my own - simple.
It has run fine since and I don't think I have ever had a failure with it.



Link Posted: 1/21/2006 7:01:11 PM EDT
Very reliable
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 10:09:19 PM EDT
100% realibility for 12 years
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 10:18:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Arsenal:
what parts if any vary from say RRA or colt. Springs etc


The Bushmaster trigger guards are PLASTIC
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 10:19:32 PM EDT
Almost as good as Colt, so long as the too-short FSB, lack of T marks and M4 cuts isnt an issue. Be warned, the threads on BFI rifles are not ALWAYS square, and when using a suppressor baffle strikes sometimes occur.

Someone had to say it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 10:20:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:

Originally Posted By Arsenal:
what parts if any vary from say RRA or colt. Springs etc


The Bushmaster trigger guards are PLASTIC



Not on any of mine.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:48:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:

Originally Posted By Arsenal:
what parts if any vary from say RRA or colt. Springs etc


The Bushmaster trigger guards are PLASTIC



Not on any of mine.



Mine.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 12:50:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 2:45:30 AM EDT by Mauser101]

Originally Posted By Arsenal:
what parts if any vary from say RRA or colt. Springs etc



The space on the side of the lower reciever that says Bushmaster instead of RRA or Stag. That's about it.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:06:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Almost as good as Colt, so long as the too-short FSB, lack of T marks and M4 cuts isnt an issue. Be warned, the threads on BFI rifles are not ALWAYS square, and when using a suppressor baffle strikes sometimes occur.

Someone had to say it.


I believe the correct term is concentric.... where'd you hear that, BTW?

Two of my Bushies both had canted front sight bases, and there were many threads on the issue years ago. Seems Bushmaster sometimes has a bad run. They take care of problems relatively pain free, though.....
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 2:06:32 AM EDT
Never had any problems Here
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 3:05:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By copdills:
Never had any problems Here



with Bushmaster's popularity, this thread could run the full-40 pages with posts like this.

But there are scores of documented issues with them, including many regarding canted sights, FTF/FTE reports, and other.


(Its times like these we will remember our friend, Tweak)
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 3:09:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By djohns6:
Mine has run flawlessly with everthing I throw at it including WOLF . And I'm not a fanatic about keeping it clean either .



Exactly what I was going to say.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 3:09:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 2A373:
I had problems with the bolt not cycling right on my 20", found that the screws that hold the bolt carrier key had loosened up. It works fine now that I pulled them out and reinstalled them using some Locktite. I still need to stake them in place to permanently fix the problem. They loosened up because they were not properly staked in place at the factory.



Same problem with mine. That was a QC issue at Bushmaster. Once I identified the problem, sent the part in they turned it around real quick. This was in '01.

Once in a few hundred rounds the Olympic SS109 I use locks the bolt forward.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 3:31:55 PM EDT
ill reiterate what I said last night. With any brand you are gonna have those that arent at their best. You could have a wonderful mfr that makes wonderful rifles time after time but every so often theres gonna be a mix up or mistake or something no matter who you deal with. However Bushmaster has some of the most friendly and user friendly customer service I have ever seen or used so if you do have a problem it wont be a big deal to get it fixed.

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 5:58:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Almost as good as Colt, so long as the too-short FSB, lack of T marks and M4 cuts isnt an issue. Be warned, the threads on BFI rifles are not ALWAYS square, and when using a suppressor baffle strikes sometimes occur.

Someone had to say it.


I believe the correct term is concentric.... where'd you hear that, BTW?

Two of my Bushies both had canted front sight bases, and there were many threads on the issue years ago. Seems Bushmaster sometimes has a bad run. They take care of problems relatively pain free, though.....



Source was Kel Whelan at Gemtech. My understanding was that the shoulder behind the thread was sometimes out of square, although it might be also/and or an issue with the threads concentricity.

Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:04:48 PM EDT
When shooting Silver Bear ammo in my M4, the cartridges will sometimes FTE from chamber. It's the ammo though because it does the same thing to one of my buddy's guns. Aside from that, I love the rifle.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:10:57 PM EDT
No problems.

Ammo fired is mostly 1979 dated PMC M-193, some 1985 dated Winchester M-193, some Federal XM-193, and a smidgin of Black Hills 69gr OTM.

It wont hold the bolt back on my 20 rd mags, but they wont hold the bolt back on any of the other ARs I've tried them in.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:15:25 PM EDT
Definitely check for loose gas key (shows after about 500~1000 initial rounds)

But other than that, it should be fine as long as you use good magazines.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:22:46 PM EDT
i understand that they're great for everything except underwater taliban hunting
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:27:03 PM EDT
I just got back from where I fired 200 rnd of Wolf at -20 degrees. Not a single problem.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:53:38 PM EDT
both of mine have kicked ass. No problems to date. Going on 4 years. Lots of dif. rounds down range.
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