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Posted: 1/19/2006 3:28:47 PM EDT
That is, what gun do you feel gives the most "bang for the buck" in terms of ergonomics, accuracy, fit and finish, reliability, etc.

My only rules are....

Rifle, handgun, shotgun...doesn't matter.

NIB firearms only. C&R's do count I suppose, but they have to be in new or unissued condiditon. Not the K98 you bought off your snot nosed cousin for $50.

You can't count that one unbelievable deal you got at the gun show, I am talking about "normal market prices" on a paticular firearm.

Price is no object. If there is a $200 gun or $20,000 gun out there that you feel gives the most performance for the dollar, let's hear it.

Have fun kiddies!

Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:30:06 PM EDT

Do CMP Garands count?


I know they aren't "new" but that has to be the best firearms deal out there!!
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:30:40 PM EDT
Springfield XD line comes to mind for a relatively cheap handgun that seems to be reliable.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:31:15 PM EDT
CZ-75B is still a good buy.
Remington 870 Express is another one.
Savage centerfire bolt guns.

Thats about it.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:32:36 PM EDT
10/22.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:33:05 PM EDT
CZ and Taurus for pistols
Mossberg 500 for shotgun
SKS for rifle
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:34:43 PM EDT
I knew there would be cracks in my rules.

I'll allow the CMP Garands. Surprised I didn't think of that. This may be the winner.


Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Do CMP Garands count?


I know they aren't "new" but that has to be the best firearms deal out there!!

Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:35:50 PM EDT
I bought a cz-52 for $100 once. It is more accurate than my kimber. The trigger sucks but I learned to live with it. Shoots very flat at range. Has functioned 100%.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:36:03 PM EDT
CMP Garands and cheap SKS's
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:37:18 PM EDT
Browning Buckmark....Well I put some aftermarket wood grips with a thumb rest....but pretty much out the box....

Even with the stock grips it feels good.

The sights are great easy to adjust.

The trigger is crisp and very nice.

Slide lock and mag release are easy to get with the thumb.

recoil is pretty substantial for a .22 but managable.

acurate as can be. Usually sub 2.5" at 25 off hand.

And it just looks nice.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:37:32 PM EDT
SKS
CZ75
870 express
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:38:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Do CMP Garands count?


I know they aren't "new" but that has to be the best firearms deal out there!!



That's why he's a professor. I was going to say Glock police trade-ins, but a CMP Garand is hard to beat.

G
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:40:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 3:43:34 PM EDT by chips]
mosin nagant hands down. an excellent, durable firearm. 7.62x54r packs plenty of punch, cheap surplus ammunition is widely available for plinking, and a variety of soft tip rounds are vailable for hunting and defense.

all for $60-80 who cares if it doesn't have the prettiest wood? it's one hell of a rifle.


ETA: i just noticed the NIB part

in that case, my vote goes for the 870 express. after rebates, both of mine ran $175 each. it's a well built shotgun, and is more then capable of taking game, breaking clays, and defense.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:42:26 PM EDT
Pistol-Taurus PT-92AFS in 9mm

Shotgun -Mossberg 500 12 Gauage

Rifle -JLD built Clone ,PTR-91 $700-$800 instead
of $2,500 for a true HK ?

Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:42:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:43:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 3:43:47 PM EDT by legalese77]
SKS ~$190

intermediate cartridge
rugged
reliable
common caliber
semi-auto
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:43:25 PM EDT
$89 k-31
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:44:26 PM EDT
CZ 75 and CZ rifles
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:46:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 3:47:17 PM EDT by USMC88-93]
Squirt guns are the most undervalued, you have to catch them while their young.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:48:02 PM EDT
What is a CZ-75B going for these days?
I remember when you can get a new one with 1 magazine for $275 at gun shows around here.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:49:11 PM EDT
Remington 7400 Carbine
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:50:19 PM EDT
Any Ruger P series, Remington 870's are a great buy for the prices I see at gun shows, and the low end Springfield 1911's.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:55:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 3:56:21 PM EDT by 1jackal]
Stevens 200 in .308 or 30-06, or other excellant calibers. You all should give a serious look at it for survival/bugout situations.

Average price= $275.00

www.savagearms.com/st_200short.htm
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:57:55 PM EDT
all removable choke shotguns capable of 3" slugs and birdshot.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:58:40 PM EDT
Ruger P series, Rem 870's, and Taurus Revolvers.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:05:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:
Remington 7400 Carbine



Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:07:26 PM EDT
9x18 Makarov
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:16:43 PM EDT
Llama 1911s
Taurus PT111 (9mm only)
Savage centerfire bolt guns
Mossberg 500 series
Used S&W wheelguns
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:18:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TWIRE:
Mossberg 500 series

Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:22:34 PM EDT
Mossberg shotguns especially my 835 Ulti Mag- under $250.00
Savage rifles
SKS carbines
CZ pistols
Taurus pistols
And my personal favorite- The Swiss Schmidt Rubin K-31 carbine. A genuine minute of angle capable rifle with match grade milsurp ammo, a match grade trigger and the barrel free floated at the factory for around $100.00.
Jim
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:24:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pepperbelly:

And my personal favorite- The Swiss Schmidt Rubin K-31 carbine. A genuine minute of angle capable rifle with match grade milsurp ammo, a match grade trigger and the barrel free floated at the factory for around $100.00.
Jim



Wow!! Would that be a 6.5x55??
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:28:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TWIRE:

Originally Posted By pepperbelly:

And my personal favorite- The Swiss Schmidt Rubin K-31 carbine. A genuine minute of angle capable rifle with match grade milsurp ammo, a match grade trigger and the barrel free floated at the factory for around $100.00.
Jim



Wow!! Would that be a 6.5x55??




Nope. The Swiss rifles are 7.5x55.
My Swede M38 is 6.5x55 and my favorite C&R but is overpriced now since they became scarce. It will shoot with the K-31- both are more accurate then I am.
Jim
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:43:03 PM EDT
RiflesLee Enfield
Schmidt Rubin K31
Swedish Mauser
1917 Enfield
M1Garand (Appreciated among older generation, under-appreciated with younger Generation)

Tikka Rifles
Savage 110

Handguns
Ruger Revolvers
Makarov
Ruger

Shotg­uns
Browning Auto 5
Winchester Model 12
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:17:24 PM EDT
M1 Garand IF purchased through the CMP.

Swiss K31

Remington 870 shotgun
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:21:59 PM EDT
Best bang for buck

SKS
10/22
870
taurus revolvers

esprecially if you buy any of the above used as they are almost free used
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:29:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By H-barCarbine:
9x18 Makarov



+1 national match makarov. It's what a friend of mine calls it.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:36:28 PM EDT
Mil Gun Supp has NIB polish P-64 in 9x18 Makarov for 139$$ Great little pistol, and I mean little. I did my own trigger job, and the gun is a dream.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:44:57 PM EDT
Jennings or Lorcin .25's
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:57:00 PM EDT
Savage rifles. If only Remington make a rifle as accurate out of the box
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:04:42 PM EDT
Shotgun:
New = Mossberg 500 series, or maybe even the Maverick, milsurp/import/etc. = Norinco trench gun copies

Handgun:
New = Sig Pro, milsurp/import/etc. = Makarov

Rifle:
New = dunno...$400 at WalMart for a NIB Win. Model 70 is pretty good milsurp/import/etc. = Mosin Nagant, or K31
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:08:22 PM EDT
Shotgun=Benelli Nova, 3 1/2", All camo=$379.00 (less w/o camo)


I don't know what you guys think about them but I really like mine,
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:17:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 6:19:37 PM EDT by the_great_snag]
Used S&W service revolvers. Glock police trade-ins.

Mossberg M500 and Rem870 express.

Swiss K-31 and the discontinued Winchester model 70 Ranger series rifles.

And any number of kit-built AR15's...

ETA... I would have also went along with the Mosin-Nagant, except for their sights are nearly impossible to adjust, and the safety is an atrocity. Totally inappropriate for hunting use. Too difficult to engage/disengage.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:26:01 PM EDT
CZ Rifles, particularly the 452 American.
Remington Model 788

Eric
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:28:48 PM EDT
taurus revolvers, kel-tek pistol carbines, sks, basic moss/rem/win pump shotties.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:32:08 PM EDT
AK-47. Duh!!
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:37:17 PM EDT
CZ-75
10/22
Mossberg 500
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:37:21 PM EDT
Savage Bolt Rifles - I don't even own one...yet.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:40:25 PM EDT
I cannot be happy enough with my Steyr M9 and I got it last summer from CDNN for $249. I think it is a better pistol than others I paid well over twice that for.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:40:33 PM EDT
Remington 700 ADL - $314.00
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:45:22 PM EDT
CZs in general. CZ-75 absolutely. Love mine.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 6:46:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By skid2964:
Remington 700 ADL - $314.00



They were $286.00 on sale here not to long ago!

I still kick myself for not buying 1 or 4.

BigDozer66
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