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Posted: 1/18/2006 4:03:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 4:32:13 AM EDT by TacticalStrat]
Here's a little exercise that may be fun:

A gang-member goes into a bank alone to rob it. He doesn't care how many people he kills in the process. There are 2 bank guards standing 40 feet apart (one on each side of the bank floor)and both of them are about 20 feet from the bank entrance. Both guards have their Glock 9mm holstered and not paying much attention to their surroundings.

Note: A CHL civilian that is standing in line is armed with a .38/2" snub revolver in his jacket pocket. He is 40 feet from the bank entrance. The civilian possesses average shooting skills. He may or may not engage the robber. What he witnesses in the guard shooting will determine whether he engages or not.


Which choice will give the bank robber a better chance for success in not getting shot and completing his robbery? Please explain the reasoning behind your choice.

A. He enters the bank and immediately fires his M4 14.5" (loaded w/ 30 round mag+ he has 2 spares) with the selector on full-auto in the direction of the two guards.

B. He enters the bank and immediately fires his CAR15 16" (loaded w/ 30 round mag+ he has 2 spares) with the selector on semi-auto in the direction of the two guards.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:05:09 AM EDT
WTF?
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:07:27 AM EDT
IBTL
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:08:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:15:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:17:47 AM EDT
umm....


Yes.

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Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:27:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 4:27:11 AM EDT by uglygun]
Answer is C, none of the above.


Use the attached M203 to take them both out in one shot.


IBTL
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:28:37 AM EDT
Nuke it from space!
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:29:07 AM EDT
Well in either case the robber is dead...because he is now deaf. so it will be easy for CHL holder to sneak up and cap his silly ass with the .38...next dumb question


Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:29:29 AM EDT
Banger Gangs! Oh my!
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:29:30 AM EDT
I'll stick my neck out and say that B would be the best choice. Why? Being a totally untrained gang-banger, he probably won't even hit anything initially on full auto, and the continuing recoil will push the gun even further off target. Now this may or may not scare the shit out of the civilian CCWer into ducking for cover/not engage. Hard to say.

Smart way would be fast semi-auto shots, IMHO.

WHY in the hell are you even asking?
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:29:38 AM EDT
Somebody has been watching HEAT a little too much.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:30:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By StonerStudent:
Well in either case the robber is dead...because he is now deaf. so it will be easy for CHL holder to sneak up and cap his silly ass with the .38...next dumb question





Like, I mean, really!!!

We all know that firing an AR-15 or M4 rifle indoors will knock you on your rear end from the concussion of the blast, so the robber will fire one round and fall over helpless!!!
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:34:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By StonerStudent:
Well in either case the robber is dead...because he is now deaf. so it will be easy for CHL holder to sneak up and cap his silly ass with the .38...next dumb question





Like, I mean, really!!!

We all know that firing an AR-15 or M4 rifle indoors will knock you on your rear end from the concussion of the blast, so the robber will fire one round and fall over helpless!!!



I don't know about helpless....but I have fired a carbine indoors and it rang my ears for a week.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:56:30 AM EDT
in close courters, its the same... out side the bank, semi would be better..
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:10:42 AM EDT
AWOB!

Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:21:33 AM EDT


planning for a robbery , eh?
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:23:08 AM EDT
If the robber was an ARFCOM'er he would bump fire his weapon.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:50:12 AM EDT
............. never mind, it's just not worth it.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:52:31 AM EDT
Airsoft! It's not a felony with an Airsoft rifle...
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:56:04 AM EDT
Semi-auto.



FA seems to make people do a 'spray & pray'
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:57:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 5:57:57 AM EDT by macman37]
Is this your way of asking Arfcom the best way to rob a bank?

Edit: The answer, of course, is "threeve".
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:58:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Semi-auto.



FA seems to make people do a 'spray & pray'

What about 3rd burst
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 5:58:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jaltered:
Airsoft! It's not a felony with an Airsoft rifle...



Sorry, but merely the threat of a weapon is enough. You don't even have to have an actual weapon. If you cause the "victim" of the crime to believe that you are in posession of a weapon, then it is "armed" robbery.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:00:32 AM EDT
If the robber bothers aiming, it doesn't matter if it's on SA or happy mode.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:02:51 AM EDT
The CCW holder should just "rack" the slide on his .38 We all know that will scare the robber enough to drop his gun.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:04:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 6:14:05 AM EDT by sixgunsblazing]
I thought this was Lawdog's latest troll thread..


Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:04:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By efpeter:
Nuke it from space!



It's the only way to be sure.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:04:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:12:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By billclo:
Being a totally untrained gang-banger, he probably won't even hit anything initially on full auto, and the continuing recoil will push the gun even further off target. Now this may or may not scare the shit out of the civilian CCWer into ducking for cover/not engage. Hard to say.

Smart way would be fast semi-auto shots, IMHO.



What he said.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:34:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tReznr:

Originally Posted By billclo:
Being a totally untrained gang-banger, he probably won't even hit anything initially on full auto, and the continuing recoil will push the gun even further off target. Now this may or may not scare the shit out of the civilian CCWer into ducking for cover/not engage. Hard to say.

Smart way would be fast semi-auto shots, IMHO.



What he said.



+1


FA is more useful if you are part of a group facing a group. FA is better for area targets and suppressive fire. Other then that, I'd stick with semi (if I had the choice that is ). Aimed semi-automatic fire is the way to go for almost all problems
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