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Posted: 1/17/2006 3:37:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 3:40:21 PM EDT by C-4]
I searched high and low and couldn't find it posted here. I have to ask myself, "Why?".

Florida Homeless Beating Caught on Videotape



Day to Day, January 13, 2006 · Police in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., are looking for a group of men who brutally attacked several homeless people early Thursday morning. Two of the victims remain hospitalized in serious condition. A third, 45-year old Norris Gaynor, died from his injuries.

Police described the assailants as a group of young white males and say they used baseball bats and sticks to beat homeless men sleeping in three separate locations. The brutality of the attacks -- one of which was captured on surveillance video -- has stunned the city, which has recently won praise for its treatment of the homeless. The incidents have also renewed calls to make attacks against the homeless a hate crime under federal law.

In the video, two young men are seen beating a homeless man, who tried in vain to fend off the attacks with his hands. "If you looked at these kids, it is almost like it was fun and games for them," says Scott Russell, a Fort Lauderdale police officer. "It looked like they were laughing and finding great joy in what they were doing."

Fort Lauderdale police spokeswoman Katherine Collins, speaking to the CBS affiliate in Miami, says the attacks were unprovoked. "There was no confrontation prior to the incidents," she says. "They seem to just have come out and started beating them immediately."

The videotape has provided police with valuable clues, and they're confident they will make arrests soon. Meanwhile, police and advocates for the homeless have fanned out across the Fort Lauderdale area, distributing fliers about the beatings and urging the homeless to go to shelters or sleep in well-lit public areas.

Nationwide, attacks against the homeless are on the rise, nearly doubling from 1999 to 2003. In the past six years, at least 156 homeless people have been murdered, according to the National Coalition for the Homeless. Most of the assailants are young men in their teens to early 20s.

"In many of the cases, it's a crime of opportunity," says Michael Stoops, the coalition's acting executive director. "A group of teenagers is roaming the street on a hot summer night and they come across a homeless person who might be mentally ill or alcoholic. When they hurt a homeless person, they think they can get away with it -- and they think they won't be hurt in return."

Stoops places part of the blame for these attacks on videos, some available on the Internet, that show homeless people being beaten -- or in one case, set on fire Advocates for the homeless have been pushing to make such attacks a "hate crime" under federal law.

"If there is any good to come out of evil," says Stoops, "then perhaps this video taped beating will be similar to the Rodney King video and make Americans realize that we need to get the federal government to do something. Because this is definitely going on in all cities around the country."



Link

Video link on Ogrish (No blood, but not for the squeamish.):

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Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:43:47 PM EDT
damn, just damn.

I have seen the same thing up here, ran across a couple of kids kicking the crap out of a homeless guy in the middle of a downtown street. Ran them off, drug the guy out of the road, called the police, and by fortunate stupidity, when I was giving the description of the car that the kids drove off in, they had decided to do a drive by so I could just point and say "That one".

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:45:23 PM EDT
This kind of stuff happens all the time. Nothing new, just that this was on video to show on the news.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:47:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By yekimak:
damn, just damn.

I have seen the same thing up here, ran across a couple of kids kicking the crap out of a homeless guy in the middle of a downtown street. Ran them off, drug the guy out of the road, called the police, and by fortunate stupidity, when I was giving the description of the car that the kids drove off in, they had decided to do a drive by so I could just point and say "That one".



Are you in Anchorage? I've seen numerous Cops episodes about youths in that fair town.

In Before Raven, who will tell the tales of the kid next door that revs his engine just to hear it rev up.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:52:19 PM EDT
Didnt one of the victims die? I caught a brief part of this story when I was driving home and heard that several suspects are in custody.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:55:13 PM EDT
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:56:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By deej86:

Originally Posted By yekimak:
damn, just damn.

I have seen the same thing up here, ran across a couple of kids kicking the crap out of a homeless guy in the middle of a downtown street. Ran them off, drug the guy out of the road, called the police, and by fortunate stupidity, when I was giving the description of the car that the kids drove off in, they had decided to do a drive by so I could just point and say "That one".



Are you in Anchorage? I've seen numerous Cops episodes about youths in that fair town.

In Before Raven, who will tell the tales of the kid next door that revs his engine just to hear it rev up.



Not there anymore. Moved to Seward.

I hate Anchorage. It isn't truly Alaska as far as I am concerned, but you can see it from there.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:58:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.




Yes, it's wrong. You're a jackass.

Sorry.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:00:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.



Why would you want to beat a homeless person?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:00:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.




Yes, it's wrong. You're a jackass.

Sorry.



Come ON!! think of all the positives:

1)increased revenue from purchase of bum-flogging licenses
2)increased tourism - both bum-beaters and spectators (Good for the whole local economy)
3)decreased number of transients taking up residence on the local sewer grates and underpasses

those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head....Think outside the box, man!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:06:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By modog:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.




Yes, it's wrong. You're a jackass.

Sorry.



Come ON!! think of all the positives:

1)increased revenue from purchase of bum-flogging licenses
2)increased tourism - both bum-beaters and spectators (Good for the whole local economy)
3)decreased number of transients taking up residence on the local sewer grates and underpasses

those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head....Think outside the box, man!

All well and good, EXCEPT, someone would have to pay for the food to keep them healthy enough to make beating worthwhile, and then have to pay for their medical treatment after said beatings.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:08:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 4:09:05 PM EDT by Backstop]

Originally Posted By modog:
Come ON!! think of all the positives:

1)increased revenue from purchase of bum-flogging licenses
2)increased tourism - both bum-beaters and spectators (Good for the whole local economy)
3)decreased number of transients taking up residence on the local sewer grates and underpasses

those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head....Think outside the box, man!



I prefer to think inside the box...you know...45-year old Norris Gaynor, who now resides inside the box, 6 feet underground.


In the past six years, at least 156 homeless people have been murdered, according to the National Coalition for the Homeless. Most of the assailants are young men in their teens to early 20s.


Time for well armed, undercover LEOs

And to add: that’s some pretty fucked up shit you’re spewing there, modog. Although it does provide valuable insight.

Or did you forget the sarcasm smilie?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:08:22 PM EDT
It's OK modog, sarcasm is lost on some of the closet socialists on the board here.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:08:49 PM EDT
Here we go...
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:09:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 4:09:58 PM EDT by hydroshok]

Originally Posted By modog:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.




Yes, it's wrong. You're a jackass.

Sorry.



Come ON!! think of all the positives:

1)increased revenue from purchase of bum-flogging licenses
2)increased tourism - both bum-beaters and spectators (Good for the whole local economy)
3)decreased number of transients taking up residence on the local sewer grates and underpasses

those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head....Think outside the box, man!


You are a true asshole, do you have anyrespect for human life? apparantly not
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:10:13 PM EDT
Senseless violence and murder make the offenders candidates for Sparky, but:

The incidents have also renewed calls to make attacks against the homeless a hate crime under federal law.



Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:13:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PinePig:
It's OK modog, sarcasm is lost on some of the closet socialists on the board here.



Fuckin' A, I guess... I wonder if these guys' medical benefits cover removal of stick from ass?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:18:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:19:21 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:25:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tras:
Senseless violence and murder make the offenders candidates for Sparky, but:

The incidents have also renewed calls to make attacks against the homeless a hate crime under federal law.






Great. That means you'll get even more time for that than a regular beating. That's terrific.


Hate crimes = thought police
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:27:50 PM EDT
All I saw was the kid running, ~obviously~ hes an innocent little angel because the still photo shows him going away. Just like the innocent girl with her hands on the hood of the police car, this kid obviously could not have done it.

Why I bet theres a picture of him with his hands on the police car that absolutly proves his innocence
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:28:36 PM EDT
I say take the guns they're confiscating (voluntary turn in, they call it) in Canada, and give them to the homeless.

Plant a few of those assholes, and the beatings will stop RFN.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:28:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.



Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the ASSHOLES????

Just wondering?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:32:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.




Yes, it's wrong. You're a jackass.

Sorry.



+1

I dont like beggars and the like....but this is premeditated.....fuck those kids.....
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:38:24 PM EDT
I too don't like the idea of hate crimes. Just call it what it is, a beating. I don't see why any beating of equal physical damage should be held to be more criminal than another.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:40:04 PM EDT
Speaking as someone who has daily contact with transients aka "the homeless" I can say without a shadow of doubt that the vast majority of them are trash. They don't deserve a beating like that from those punks though.

I think catapulting them into the next time zone is more befitting.

FWIW, I tried talking NASA into launching an all bum crew on the shuttle's first return flight after Columbia. The video from their space station visit would be priceless.

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:45:01 PM EDT
Driving around areas frequented by homeless at night with the AR in the back seat might provide a good opportunity to get in some legal target practice lucky enough to come across one of these in progress.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:45:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Grivo_Mak:
Speaking as someone who has daily contact with transients aka "the homeless" I can say without a shadow of doubt that the vast majority of them are trash. They don't deserve a beating like that from those punks though.

I think catapulting them into the next time zone is more befitting.

FWIW, I tried talking NASA into launching an all bum crew on the shuttle's first return flight after Columbia. The video from their space station visit would be priceless.




Link Posted: 1/17/2006 4:50:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.




Yes, it's wrong. You're a jackass.

Sorry.



+1

But I'm not sorry.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 5:06:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By killingmachine123:
I too don't like the idea of hate crimes. Just call it what it is, a beating. I don't see why any beating of equal physical damage should be held to be more criminal than another.



I completely agree with you and vanilla_gorilla about 'hate crime' being an idiotic invention. A beating is a beating and should be punished as such.

If they can prove in court that the murder was premeditated then the guy animal swinging the bat and every accomplice should hang.

As far as the Socialist comment, I'm not sure why not wanting random homeless people beaten on the street is a 'socialist' idea. I live in a rural area in NH now but somehow I managed to suppress my urge to beat a homeless person while living in Philly, Boston and Ottawa.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 7:16:09 PM EDT
tag for later viewing...........
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 7:39:31 PM EDT
Photo of the suspects.........
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 7:58:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By modog:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By modog:
Is it wrong of me to be in favor of random beatings of the homeless?


OK...we could at least require a bum-flogging permit. That much I'll give you.




Yes, it's wrong. You're a jackass.

Sorry.



Come ON!! think of all the positives:

1)increased revenue from purchase of bum-flogging licenses
2)increased tourism - both bum-beaters and spectators (Good for the whole local economy)
3)decreased number of transients taking up residence on the local sewer grates and underpasses

those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head....Think outside the box, man!



That is just poor judgment my man, I hope someday when you mature and you recall that statment you feel ashamed as hell. No icons for this one.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:00:31 PM EDT
I've no love for the homeless, but beating a person merely on the pretext that they're indigent is not civilized conduct becoming of a reponsible contributing member of society.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:03:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR:
Didnt one of the victims die? I caught a brief part of this story when I was driving home and heard that several suspects are in custody.



One of the three victims died. Both kids went to my high school.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:06:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Backstop:
I say take the guns they're confiscating (voluntary turn in, they call it) in Canada, and give them to the homeless.

Plant a few of those assholes, and the beatings will stop RFN.



They will be sold for beer money. Count on it.

BTW those punks are real crapstains on society. Beating up the weak. Real brave, I hope word gets around the prison yard at what these super brave punks did.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:50:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Backstop:
I say take the guns they're confiscating (voluntary turn in, they call it) in Canada, and give them to the homeless.

Plant a few of those assholes, and the beatings will stop RFN.



They will be sold for beer money. Count on it.

BTW those punks are real crapstains on society. Beating up the weak. Real brave, I hope word gets around the prison yard at what these super brave punks did.



I've seen pictures of them online.

They will be traded for smokes on a daily basis.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:26:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bastiat:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Backstop:
I say take the guns they're confiscating (voluntary turn in, they call it) in Canada, and give them to the homeless.

Plant a few of those assholes, and the beatings will stop RFN.



They will be sold for beer money. Count on it.

BTW those punks are real crapstains on society. Beating up the weak. Real brave, I hope word gets around the prison yard at what these super brave punks did.



I've seen pictures of them online.

They will be traded for smokes on a daily basis.



I do not condone anal rape in prison but they decided their own fate.
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