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Posted: 1/17/2006 10:06:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 10:06:52 AM EDT by photoman]
Yup the Senate passed it with the changes from the assembly today. Now it's just a game of veto/veto override.

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:07:26 AM EDT
Any chance of over-riding the veto?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:07:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 10:08:07 AM EDT by SmilingBandit]
Did it pass with enough of a margin?


ETA: Yeah, what he said.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:08:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By xinflt:
Any chance of over-riding the veto?



+1, how did the votes go down?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:21:03 AM EDT
From what I could tell the vote was fine, we have enough in the senate for the veto override, the question is the assembly where it is going to come down, I think, to one or two votes again. Not sure when the asshole will get it to veto it and not sure when the veto override votes will be.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:24:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 10:27:40 AM EDT by Dolomite]

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By xinflt:
Any chance of over-riding the veto?



+1, how did the votes go down?

There is not much worry that the Senate will fail to vote to override the Governor's veto - the problem, historically, is in the Assembly - specifically, getting the Democrats that voted for it the first time through to hold their ground while the leader of their State party (Gov. Jim Doyle) applies the screws.

Last time through the veto override that would have given us a CCW law, fell short of a single vote by one of the bill's Dem co-sponsors (also, a NRA member).

One stinking vote, what the governor promised him is not yet known - but the fact of the matter is that this year - if we can get all of the Assembly Dems that voted for it during the bill's first passing to stick to their guns in the veto override attempt, we should have the 2/3'rds majority we need and theoretically a CCW law will be in effect right around the time the NRA convention hits Milwaukee.

Here’s a list of the 5 Dems that need to vote the same way twice. Our current veto-happy governor is up for election this year, and his popularity has really never been that great (unless you own or run a casino), so he’s not going to have as much power to offer special favors (or threats) on the current crew sitting in our state Assembly. If you visit Wisconsin, if you have friends and family here, if you're from a State that has CCW - let them hear from you.

Mary Hubler
Phone: (888) 534-0075 or E-mail:
rep.hubler@legis.state.wi.us

Terry Van Akkeren
Phone: (608) 266-0656 or E-mail:
rep.vanakkeren@legis.state.wi.us


Barbara Gronemus
Phone: (888) 534-0091 or E-mail:
rep.gronemus@legis.state.wi.us

Marlin Schneider
Phone: (888) 529-0072 or E-mail:
rep.schneider@legis.state.wi.us

John Steinbrink
Phone: (608) 266-0455 or E-mail:
rep.steinbrink@legis.state.wi.us

Amy Sue Vruwink
Phone: (888) 534-0070 or E-mail:
rep.vruwink@legis.state.wi.us

If you have people in WI, have them go to 165.189.139.210/WAML to find out who their Assembly rep is and have them make a call to them in addition to contacting the above critical Assembly members.

www.wisconsinconcealedcarry.com
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:28:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By xinflt:
Any chance of over-riding the veto?



+1, how did the votes go down?



Last time through the veto override that would have given us a CCW law, fell short of a single vote by one of the bill's Dem co-sponsors (also, a NRA member).






For crying out loud...you guys had to be PISSED!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:30:04 AM EDT
REVOLT!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:31:16 AM EDT
gunslinger10mm just said in the WI-HTF that he heard on the radio we are two short in the Assembly which as Dolomite has pointed out is the historical problem child for these things. I don't know who the two are that left, but ther was one dem and one repub that didn't vote on the bill in the assembly, but the Repub is a garunteed veto override vote and there was a seat from Waukesha IIRC that was vacant that was suposed to be filled before the veto override, and that seat should(historicly as I'm told) go to a repub. I'm trying to figure out where the two votes short is comming from, the only thing I can think of is two dems who voted for it ran back to the reservation so to speak.

[rumormill]According to what I heard Sherman was offered a judgeship for stabbing us in the back if he didn't win re-election.[/rumormill] Really he was the perfect fal guy though. NRA member, high NRA rating(untill the veto override he was pro-gun on everything from my understanding). If we ended up voting the guy out of office we could have gotten worse, talked a little about that with Jim Fendry it was an interesting conversation.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:33:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By Dolomite:

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By xinflt:
Any chance of over-riding the veto?



+1, how did the votes go down?



Last time through the veto override that would have given us a CCW law, fell short of a single vote by one of the bill's Dem co-sponsors (also, a NRA member).






For crying out loud...you guys had to be PISSED!



Status quo from Madison...After all the BS and shenanigans to get this far, nothing pisses me off anymore.
I just hope it fucking passes one of these times so I can protect me and my family.
Doyle can kiss my ass.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:49:38 AM EDT
good luck on your ccw bill! the first time Texas chl went before then governor ann richards she vetoed it. then she lost reelection to bush and we got our chl.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:50:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:
For crying out loud...you guys had to be PISSED!



Not pissed enough for his constituency to vote him out of office

I mean, for crying out loud, the only thing a politician has to sell is his word. A frickin' co-sponsor. And he bailed. I'd rather have a known anti-gunner in his seat. At least there's no doubt on where they stand. Honesty & integrity, even if they're on the wrong side of the fence.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:50:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Knight_Shadow:
good luck on your ccw bill! the first time Texas chl went before then governor ann richards she vetoed it. then she lost reelection to bush and we got our chl.



Bush signed your CHL bill? I didn't know that. Cool.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:53:12 AM EDT
What a bunch of bullshit.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:51:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Silesius:
What a bunch of bullshit.



Yah and at the right time of the year, you can smell it in the air
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