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Posted: 1/17/2006 6:23:36 AM EDT
fox news story here.

scotus upholds assisted suicide.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:24:28 AM EDT
outstanding
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:29:15 AM EDT
"Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, said the federal government does, indeed, have the authority to go after drug dealers and pass rules for health and safety.

But Oregon's law covers only extremely sick people — those with incurable diseases, whom at least two doctors agree have six months or less to live and are of sound mind."

Good ruling, but the reasoning is flawed. Still too much power invested in the federal government.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:30:34 AM EDT
I perfer Futurama's "Suicide Booths".

Suicide Booth: You are now dead. Thank you for using Stop and Drop, America's favorite Suicide Booth since 2008.

Bender: "Listen, buddy, I'm in a hurry here. Let's try for a twofer. Hehe."
Suicide Booth: "Please select mode of death. Quick and painless or slow and horrible."
Fry: "Yeah, I'd like to place a collect call?"
Suicide Booth: "You have selected slow and horrible."
Bender: "Great choice!"
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:08:42 AM EDT
Excellent!

The .gov has no business in:

The raising of my children
What my wife/partner/lover and I do in the privacy of our bedroom
My gun closet
My reproductive choices
My wish to end MY life when I choose to

That is all, thankyou.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:10:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 8:11:20 AM EDT by DK-Prof]
No way - the mightly govenment actually allowed an individual freedom?


Why was this even a debate (other than in the case of treatable mental illness)?

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:14:00 AM EDT
For a second, I thought you were talking about this guy.

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:50:01 AM EDT
It's not always "Dr. Death", most of the time it is "Nurse Death".
Morphine is a wonderful drug.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:00:40 AM EDT
I miss Dr. Kevorkian news stories.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:06:22 AM EDT
Why in the hell would anyone be against this? What justification could you possibly make for taking away someone's right to choose to end their own life?

Libs= IT'S OK TO KILL BABIES BUT IT'S NOT OK TO KILL YOURSELF!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:07:50 AM EDT
States rights.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:27:19 AM EDT
State assisted murder
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:31:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
No way - the mightly govenment actually allowed an individual freedom?


Why was this even a debate (other than in the case of treatable mental illness)?




Because it's a sin...


(the above was a sarcastic comment)

Because some people find it distasteful that someone should be able to choose to die when they wish, due to a misplaced fear that Doctors will start offing patients who are a pain in the ass. No account is taken that someone who is faced with incomprehensible pain for the short duration of their life might wish to shorten the duration of the agony even further...
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:47:41 AM EDT
It is a win for states rights. Simple as that.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:50:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
Libs= IT'S OK TO KILL BABIES BUT IT'S NOT OK TO KILL YOURSELF!




The only people I know who are against assisted suicide are conservatives.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:56:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
Libs= IT'S OK TO KILL BABIES BUT IT'S NOT OK TO KILL YOURSELF!




The only people I know who are against assisted suicide are conservatives.



And they apparently are for more Fedral control??
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:04:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:
It's not always "Dr. Death", most of the time it is "Nurse Death".
Morphine is a wonderful drug.



Whatt about "Best Buddy Death"?

If you haven't been there, you'll never understand.



RIP, Peter.

efxguy

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:05:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
Libs= IT'S OK TO KILL BABIES BUT IT'S NOT OK TO KILL YOURSELF!




The only people I know who are against assisted suicide are conservatives.



And they apparently are for more Fedral control??



For many of them, the answer is "yes." Many "conservatives" are just people who prefer the outcomes associated with conservatism and have no particular use for the Constitution or any other set of political principles.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:45:13 AM EDT


Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
Libs= IT'S OK TO KILL BABIES BUT IT'S NOT OK TO KILL YOURSELF!




The only people I know who are against assisted suicide are conservatives.



Our breed of Libs in the south are a tad different than most, I always forget that.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:20:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hardcorps1775:
fox news story here.

scotus upholds assisted suicide.



The dissenting opinions have some interesting things:

Scalia, writing the dissent, said that federal officials have the power to regulate the doling out of medicine.

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:26:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:

Originally Posted By PaDanby:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
Libs= IT'S OK TO KILL BABIES BUT IT'S NOT OK TO KILL YOURSELF!




The only people I know who are against assisted suicide are conservatives.



And they apparently are for more Fedral control??



For many of them, the answer is "yes." Many "conservatives" are just people who prefer the outcomes associated with conservatism and have no particular use for the Constitution or any other set of political principles.



A sad truth to be sure. Blind conservatism is "better" then the socialist democrat alternative, but damned scary.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:31:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:37:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By petagunner:

Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:
It's not always "Dr. Death", most of the time it is "Nurse Death".
Morphine is a wonderful drug.



Happens more than you know

My only concern is that the doctors will not be professional enough and a "God" persona will emerge.



Yes, it does.

And that's a ridiculous concern.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:44:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 11:46:34 AM EDT by hardcorps1775]

Originally Posted By petagunner:

Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:
It's not always "Dr. Death", most of the time it is "Nurse Death".
Morphine is a wonderful drug.



Happens more than you know

My only concern is that the doctors will not be professional enough and a "God" persona will emerge.


that'll always be a problem, but docs end up thinking they're god anyway. i don't appr of assisted suicide (or unassisted suicide, for that matter) but i'm catholic so it's probably genetic...

my friend's dad was in his last few moments of life and was struggling to hold on and a nurse helped him go with some extra morphine. it helped his family as well.

i'm just not sure we're supposed to greet death with open arms. i think we're supposed to sucker punch him in the throat as often as possible while he drags us away...
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:47:28 AM EDT
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