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Posted: 1/16/2006 11:21:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/16/2006 11:22:03 PM EDT by Arbiter]
Ok...I've been running Firefox for years now. No problems untill....I just updated it about 3 days ago...and now it is running like shit. It crashes...doesn't run alot of videos...won't load full pages....the gif and animated pic here on ARFCOM won't run.....it runs slow.

Can't see any of the ads here on ARFCOM.

Can anyone help?

Arbiter
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 11:26:54 PM EDT
Maxthon

I cant stand FF at all.....
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 11:30:34 PM EDT
Weird, my 1.5 runs fine.

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:14:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:
Weird, my 1.5 runs fine.



Mine too.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:16:24 AM EDT
1.5 runs fine for me.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:17:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 12:18:46 AM EDT by Tomislav]

Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:

Originally Posted By CavVet:
Weird, my 1.5 runs fine.



Mine too.



Ditto. Besides, I have too many useful plugins for Firefox to want to try some other browser.

ETA: Arbiter, uninstall, delete your Mozilla profile, and reinstall.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:21:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Arbiter:
Ok...I've been running Firefox for years now. No problems untill....I just updated it about 3 days ago...and now it is running like shit. It crashes...doesn't run alot of videos...won't load full pages....the gif and animated pic here on ARFCOM won't run.....it runs slow.

Can't see any of the ads here on ARFCOM.

Can anyone help?

Arbiter



1) a bunch of plugins have problems with 1.5
uninstall or update them...

2) beware of long browser sessions.
1.5 leaks like a sieve. It helps if you exit the browser when it starts to page badly.

3) I think that there's a undocumented exploit floating around...
It's based on the wmf exploit from a month ago and it crashes firefox. Better than getting pwnt with IE. I guess
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:26:51 AM EDT
I had some problems with the betas and the 1.0x series. But since I've gone to release 1.5, not a single problem. And this is on 3 PCs, 2 linux machines and a Mac!

I'd try uninstalling FF, completely, including any plugins you had, and then reinstall 1.5.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 1:42:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Maxthon

I cant stand FF at all.....



I tried Maxthon, and I'm not sure that it's not just an IE shell.

I like to use something other than IE to surf with; we develop intranet apps and the company platform is IE. So we end up purging cookies/ temp files quite often. So I'd surf with FireFox so I could keep any saved passwords, auto logins, etc. going after purging IE.

When I tried Maxthon, anything I would do in IE, such as purging cookies and temp files, also did it in Maxthon.

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 1:47:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 2:10:45 AM EDT by FieroLoki]

Originally Posted By DDiggler:

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Maxthon

I cant stand FF at all.....



I tried Maxthon, and I'm not sure that it's not just an IE shell.

I like to use something other than IE to surf with; we develop intranet apps and the company platform is IE. So we end up purging cookies/ temp files quite often. So I'd surf with FireFox so I could keep any saved passwords, auto logins, etc. going after purging IE.

When I tried Maxthon, anything I would do in IE, such as purging cookies and temp files, also did it in Maxthon.




It uses the IE engine. But then again, aparently im not a statistic cause I have never had security issues with IE (or really even XP for that matter). I like Maxthon cause its IE based, tabbed browsing, built in search engine(s), ad blocker, pop-up bloker, floating add blocker, and so many more...... Simple, easy, fast, and doesnt have any memory leaks.....

I leave my cookie and internet files alone (mainly cause i on dial-up) but it all boils down to being able to secure your PC.

To me, FF was slow, and just didnt have a good "feel" to it.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:05:09 AM EDT
tag for after work
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:21:58 AM EDT
Works just fine. Cept for the memory leaks.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:40:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 3:44:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:
2) beware of long browser sessions.
1.5 leaks like a sieve. It helps if you exit the browser when it starts to page badly.


Which is completely unacceptable for a memory leak to be unpatched for this long...
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 5:02:26 AM EDT
To many memory problems with FireFox. I'm on Opera now.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 5:36:21 AM EDT
bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/page.php?name=STATS2004

Mozilla and the family (including Firefox, Netscape Navigator and Camino browsers) display a much shorter window of opportunity for a prospective attacker. There were 56 days (15%) in 2004 when there was a publicly known remote code execution in Mozilla and no patched release. 30 days in May-June for MacOS arbitrary code execution problem only affecting MacOS users, one day in July between the public report of shell: protocol vulnerability and the fixed Mozilla/Firefox release, one day in August between the disclosure and the fix of libPNG vulnerabilities, and 24 days in October-November between the the Michal Zalewski's announcement of mangleme program and the Firefox 1.0 release incorporating the fixes for publicly announced bugs.

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:40:01 AM EDT



WTF is a memory leak??

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:47:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:



WTF is a memory leak??




Its like alzheimer's for the computer..
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:47:34 AM EDT
Good to know, DL'ed it last night for my reformat/re-install this week.

Cav, Memory leak is when a program that continually runs keeps using up more and more memory instead of releasing it once it's not needed anymore..

I haven't noticed it with FF, but I usually don't have too many windows open at once and re-boot at least weekly.

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:47:57 AM EDT
i use konqueror
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:52:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By CavVet:



WTF is a memory leak??




Its like alzheimer's for the computer..







My computer is my twin???





Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:52:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:
i use konqueror



Good call.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 6:54:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:



WTF is a memory leak??




The application reserves and uses "pages" of memory in the system for certain tasks. These pages are "tagged" as used and removed from access by the rest of the system. A memory leak is when the applicaiton finishes the tasks with those pages, it fails to release them. As a result, available memory goes down down down, performance starts to suck, and errors arise.

Its a problem and I'm also grumpy they haven't fixed that yet.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 7:13:51 AM EDT
Right now my FireFox 1.5 is using 218,016k of memory. WTF? That is ridiculous. IE never uses even half that much. Any idea how long until they fix the memory leak problem?
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 7:43:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dalesimpson:
Right now my FireFox 1.5 is using 218,016k of memory. WTF? That is ridiculous. IE never uses even half that much. Any idea how long until they fix the memory leak problem?



That is the reason I stopped using FF.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 7:44:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 7:45:43 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]
Yes, it does.


289,320, and I'm running 1.0.7
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 8:57:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:

Originally Posted By CavVet:
Weird, my 1.5 runs fine.



Mine too.



Me too...so far anyway.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:08:54 AM EDT
Opera.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:20:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:22:33 AM EDT
Safari

Firefox 1.5 on my PC though, never had any problem with it, stays around 13 megs all the time for me.

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