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Posted: 1/15/2006 12:32:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/16/2006 10:25:49 AM EDT by Mister44]
An airsmith forum I am on, someone found a rusted out Winchester 1866. A savage crime. No telling how long its been open to the elements.

Here is the original threads:
Link Fixed Hopefully

And here are the pics:



Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:34:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:34:47 PM EDT
5 years is my guess.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:34:52 PM EDT
AAAaaaaaaaahh!! The horror!!

Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:36:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:36:42 PM EDT
clean it up, throw some cold blue on the outside and sell it on gunbroker as having a "slightly pitted" barrel
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:37:07 PM EDT
Linkee no workee.

Probably some hunter killed a deer, leaned the rifle against a tree and started dragging the deer off. I've heard stories of this happening before. Dumbasses!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:37:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:41:29 PM EDT
Link fixed - and the guy is going to try to restore it - at least to a degree. Hes a Tinkerer!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:43:31 PM EDT
He better be careful there isn't a live round in it LOL.

Seriously that is frigging cool! Soak it in penetrating oil for a while, he should be able to get most of the rust off. Would be an awesome non-firing display piece for the wall.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:47:17 PM EDT
Throw it in some brake fluid! It'll get the rust off!

Wood looks like it's in nice shape....concidering.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:49:12 PM EDT
I bet a poacher left/threw it down.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:00:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/15/2006 1:01:36 PM EDT by Kharn]
Talking about finding stuff in the woods, I know a guy who's giant black lab ran off one day and came back an hour or two later, dragging a Remington 1100 (in very good condition) by the barrel.

He called his cop friend who ran the numbers and said it wasnt reported stolen or missing; after another check 6mo later he decided it was his to keep. It makes a great conversation piece and hangs in his foyer.

That dog is the most spoiled dog in the county.

Kharn
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:05:33 PM EDT
Might also be a stolen weapon that was abandoned in favor of something of a more modern design.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:06:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:
Talking about finding stuff in the woods, I know a guy who's giant black lab ran off one day and came back an hour or two later, dragging a Remington 1100 (in very good condition) by the barrel.

He called his cop friend who ran the numbers and said it wasnt reported stolen or missing; after another check 6mo later he decided it was his to keep. It makes a great conversation piece and hangs in his foyer.

That dog is the most spoiled dog in the county.

Kharn



thats friggen awesome!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:08:43 PM EDT
SWEET!!

Post pics when its finished.

FREE
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:11:13 PM EDT
That's sickening.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:14:05 PM EDT
Oh the humanity!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:16:40 PM EDT
A Arf.comers buried SHTF stash ahs been raided,


A buddy of mine found a old double barrle shotgun, with exposed hammers in a creek on land his dad his bought.

Looked worse than the Winchester, most of the wood was gone, rotted off.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:16:44 PM EDT
That will buff right out
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:18:16 PM EDT


Cut down in it's prime.


The horror, we must find the dastard and make him pay.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:19:47 PM EDT
take the wood off, and have it acid boiled like they do with car parts...
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:21:01 PM EDT
I'm betting it was stolen, and tossed, not a gangsta' gun, they probably couldn't figure out how to hold it sideways and work the lever. that is assuming they had a clue how it operated.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:22:59 PM EDT
Poor lever.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 2:01:17 PM EDT
Real Winchester, or just a re-pop?
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 2:10:42 PM EDT
Hard to look at. Is it even salvageable?
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 2:11:37 PM EDT
drop it in a 55 gallon drum of diesel fuel for a few weeks
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 2:14:08 PM EDT
pour some coke on it. That'll loosen her up
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 2:19:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 5:12:41 PM EDT
The recever looks useable if the rust isn't too bad. Every thing else is replacable (that is, IF your more concerned about shooting with it.) I myself prefer a useable gun, rather than something that collects dust. I guess I'm funny that way.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 5:44:39 PM EDT
looks salvagable to me. soak it in some penatrating oil for a few weeks.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 5:49:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/15/2006 5:51:58 PM EDT by luger355]
looked at the link,

man an 1893 win 73 in 38 wcf some guys have all the luck

lever actions are the ak's of the 19th century. They can take a lot of abuse and still be made to work.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 5:50:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By anachronism:
Real Winchester, or just a re-pop?



That's what I was thinking.........maybe an Italian copy?
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 5:59:33 PM EDT
I think she can be restored. The pics don't seem to indicate any metal scaling. Though it is a bit pitted, it'll buff out. I'de say it's been in the weather for about 1-2 years, tops.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:04:53 PM EDT
The wood is in relatively good condition. It hasn't been out for more than a few years. My guess is it was either lost or stolen and abandoned.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:12:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gaspain:

Originally Posted By Kharn:
Talking about finding stuff in the woods, I know a guy who's giant black lab ran off one day and came back an hour or two later, dragging a Remington 1100 (in very good condition) by the barrel.

He called his cop friend who ran the numbers and said it wasnt reported stolen or missing; after another check 6mo later he decided it was his to keep. It makes a great conversation piece and hangs in his foyer.

That dog is the most spoiled dog in the county.

Kharn



thats friggen awesome!



+1 to that
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 7:25:44 PM EDT
is that what happens to your gun when you shoot Wolf ?
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 7:29:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Linkee no workee.

Probably some hunter killed a deer, leaned the rifle against a tree and started dragging the deer off. I've heard stories of this happening before. Dumbasses!



What?!

When I killed my antelope, I was out in the damned ass end of the praire and had to haul them both back. That sucked, but I sure as hell didnt forget the rifle! Threw the antelope on my back (Should say, struggled it up there) then grabbed the rifle and set the rifle across the legs of the antelope that were sticking out in front of me.

A funny site I must have made, but by God I got it all back!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 7:36:14 PM EDT
Buddy of mine was building a house a few years back and in the woods found an octagonal barrel and action
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 7:38:45 PM EDT
just shoot it, shake the rust off.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 7:46:55 PM EDT
Well god damn I was wondering where I left that damn thing... IM inboud with serial #
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 8:09:29 PM EDT
I have resurrected worse looking guns. I have an ithaca 37 that was found buried at the local dump, looks like it had been through a housefire. Bead blasting and a few new parts and all is well. It ain't pretty, but it is a slamfire with the disconnector.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 11:51:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mark159:
Hard to look at. Is it even salvageable?



Link works now... person who has it has taken it appart and the action works! Well, it moves......

Link Posted: 1/15/2006 11:54:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kaliburz:

Originally Posted By mark159:
Hard to look at. Is it even salvageable?



Link works now... person who has it has taken it appart and the action works! Well, it moves......




WD that rusty sum bitch!!!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 11:55:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 12:09:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By nightowl7:

Originally Posted By Kaliburz:

Originally Posted By mark159:
Hard to look at. Is it even salvageable?



Link works now... person who has it has taken it appart and the action works! Well, it moves......




WD that rusty sum bitch!!!




You know when you are a true gun nut if you feel pain in seeing a firearm in that condition.
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 12:22:14 AM EDT


Guess the bear won
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 10:21:09 AM EDT
Well, I figured the rifle I'm workin on is here, so I might as well follow it. I'm actually taking a break from cleaning it to let the bore solvent soak in, so came here to post.

Most of the 'rust' appears to be concretion from sitting in peat, which probably saved the rifle from total loss. Most of the ground here is sand, with a high salt content and I'm glad it didn't end up in any of that. I'm just taking my time with oil and toothbrushes right now. On payday I'll be ordering some rust/blueing stripper from Brownells with a couple tools I need to do things properly. Then we'll really be getting down to business.

I've gotten the action apart almost totally now, but haven't started driving any pins out yet until I get some proper punches. Until then, I can't get the barrel off or take down the trigger group. Most of the internals have the bluing worn off pretty well, but no rust to speak of..... just a century of powder residue and oil caked up.

The bolt, toggles, lever and trigger all move pretty well now, but the riser block keeps binding and the screws broke that holds on the return spring. No biggie, I can get replacements cheap.

Big concern is the barrel. Cleaning is going slow, but I'm feeling better about the bore than I had been. If that's good, then all I have to worry about is how bad the lettering will end up after polishing. But I wonder how much all 4 types of metal finishing is going to cost me, and the buttstock needs to be replaced too.

I'll have more pictures up tonight.

-Hans

Link Posted: 1/16/2006 10:24:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:
Talking about finding stuff in the woods, I know a guy who's giant black lab ran off one day and came back an hour or two later, dragging a Remington 1100 (in very good condition) by the barrel.

He called his cop friend who ran the numbers and said it wasnt reported stolen or missing; after another check 6mo later he decided it was his to keep. It makes a great conversation piece and hangs in his foyer.

That dog is the most spoiled dog in the county.

Kharn



Dang! I need to get a dog like that!
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 10:26:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JB69:

Guess the bear won


Link Posted: 1/16/2006 10:34:17 AM EDT
There are people that specialize in restoring guns like yours.
A restoration aint cheap though.

You may want to go to one of the lever gun forums.
I am sure they will point you to all sorts of folks.
You should be able to buy any of the parts for that rifle.


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