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Posted: 1/14/2006 5:18:08 AM EDT
Because they cancelled the porn class!


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/14/ap/strange/mainD8F46PD80.shtml

Ohio High School Porn Homework Canceled

BROOKLYN, Ohio, Jan. 14, 2006
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(AP) A high school research assignment on Internet pornography was canceled after parents in this Cleveland suburb complained.

Superintendent Jeff Lampert said that although the teacher's apparent goal _ to discuss the harmful effects of pornography _ was well-intentioned, he agreed with parents that the assignment was inappropriate for 14- and 15-year-old freshmen at Brooklyn High.

The assignment asked students to research pornography on the Internet and list eight facts about pornography. Students also were asked to write their personal views of pornography and any experience they had with it.

Lampert said he doubted the teacher, Scott Gioia, would face any punishment. Gioia teaches health and physical education and has been at the school for about five years.

Lampert said he started getting calls Wednesday and met with the principal and Gioia. They decided that day to drop the project.

"We value the partnership we have" with the community, Lampert said. "We take that very seriously."

There was no phone listing under Gioia's name in the Cleveland area.

Last fall, controversy over questionable work-study credits given to a member of the football team led the team to forfeit four wins _ the team's only victories of the season and the first in two years.

Link Posted: 1/14/2006 5:38:33 AM EDT
This teacher didn't have the foresight to a controversial response to this assignment? I wonder how he worded it. Big difference between, "Explain sexual deviancy in America presumed to have escalated through the ease of attaining pornographic images and diatribe" AND

"Research pornography and state eight facts associated with public sexual acts and formulate a personal opinion to be included."

It never ceases to amaze me how some people, educators included, will not take a moment to consider how wording affects perception.

Regardless, I imagine that was one assignment everyone was looking forward to doing research on!
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 5:42:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/14/2006 5:43:04 AM EDT by Zatu]
Schools fail because of ignorant parents. Like the ones that called in on the assignment. Bad parents! Very bad parents! No tax credit for you!
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 5:49:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By richardh247:
This teacher didn't have the foresight to a controversial response to this assignment? I wonder how he worded it. Big difference between, "Explain sexual deviancy in America presumed to have escalated through the ease of attaining pornographic images and diatribe" AND

"Research pornography and state eight facts associated with public sexual acts and formulate a personal opinion to be included."

It never ceases to amaze me how some people, educators included, will not take a moment to consider how wording affects perception.

Regardless, I imagine that was one assignment everyone was looking forward to doing research on!



He asked them to relate their personal experience with it. Little Johnny raises his hand and says "I had this big bottle of hand lotion . . . "
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 6:12:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wolfman97:

Originally Posted By richardh247:
This teacher didn't have the foresight to a controversial response to this assignment? I wonder how he worded it. Big difference between, "Explain sexual deviancy in America presumed to have escalated through the ease of attaining pornographic images and diatribe" AND

"Research pornography and state eight facts associated with public sexual acts and formulate a personal opinion to be included."

It never ceases to amaze me how some people, educators included, will not take a moment to consider how wording affects perception.

Regardless, I imagine that was one assignment everyone was looking forward to doing research on!



He asked them to relate their personal experience with it. Little Johnny raises his hand and says "I had this big bottle of hand lotion . . . "



And little Fred said, "Dude, shhhh, you promised."
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 6:24:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/14/2006 6:24:32 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]
This explains everything.



The schools certainly aren't teaching spelling and grammar, as evidenced by the total lack of both on this board.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 6:26:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
This explains everything.



The schools certainly aren't teaching spelling and grammar, as evidenced by the total lack of both on this board.



Well, the display of porn ain't too good on this board, either. Looks to me like the schools need to work on all the subjects.

Link Posted: 1/14/2006 6:45:16 AM EDT

NO CHILD WILL BE LEFT BEHIND
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 6:50:12 AM EDT
It occurs to me that if I could have been in the study group with Janet and Wendy I never would have skipped school.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 6:51:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
This explains everything.



The schools certainly aren't teaching spelling and grammar, as evidenced by the total lack of both on this board.



I completely agree. Not to beat a dead horse, but the entire 'no child left behind' policy is a sad occlusion to a very real truth. Teaching children goody-good feelings for failure now is only setting them up for a harsh reality when they can't find a quality job because they have no pride in how they express themselves.

My daughter passed 7th grade, and she can't spell many words she should be able to (hint: there is NOT spelled with an a). I called the teacher on it, and she flat out told me she had to pass Danielle because that's the school requirement. I wasn't happy, but Camy, in her typical foolishness, was elated that Danielle got to pass

OT:

I am a teaching assistant/tutor/whatever you call me for MT-217, which is a Corporate Finance class. Part of my responsibility is recommending grades, and I marked one down considerably. The professor questioned me about this, as the answers provided were within the tolerances (different decimal equivalents give different final answers) and their work to arrive at the answer was shown. I explained to him that many of the word problems contained gross structural errors in grammar, improper punctuation, and spelling mistakes.

He said, "What difference does it make? This is Finance, not Composition."

I said, "With all due respect, sir, this is college, not grade school. Do you know a financial institution that would hire anyone or retain anyone whose resume and reports contained such flagrant errors?"

He agreed to a point, and allowed the student full credit if she changed the errors, which she did.

Still, his initial response disturbed me. I guess the value of an education means nothing more than a degree by doing the minimum to some. Oh well. Can't fix stupid.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 6:57:18 AM EDT
don't act surprised; it'll be a semester long required course in a generation or two.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 10:18:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/14/2006 10:22:12 AM EDT by PeteCO]

Originally Posted By richardh247:
I am a teaching assistant/tutor/whatever you call me for MT-217, which is a Corporate Finance class. Part of my responsibility is recommending grades, and I marked one down considerably. The professor questioned me about this, as the answers provided were within the tolerances (different decimal equivalents give different final answers) and their work to arrive at the answer was shown. I explained to him that many of the word problems contained gross structural errors in grammar, improper punctuation, and spelling mistakes.

He said, "What difference does it make? This is Finance, not Composition."

I said, "With all due respect, sir, this is college, not grade school. Do you know a financial institution that would hire anyone or retain anyone whose resume and reports contained such flagrant errors?"

He agreed to a point, and allowed the student full credit if she changed the errors, which she did.

Still, his initial response disturbed me. I guess the value of an education means nothing more than a degree by doing the minimum to some. Oh well. Can't fix stupid.



Amen. I have financial analysts and staff accountants working for me that spell like 6th graders. Their grammar is worse: subject-verb agreement is something that a fucking MBA should be able to get right.

To me, it's nothing less than incompetence. KPMG and the public have to read some of the sewage these nitwits create.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 12:28:09 PM EDT
True Story # 1. Kid pulls knife on bus driver and gets suspended. No charges filed. Parents are ticked he's not allowed to RIDE THE BUS anymore.
True Story # 2. Junior High kid attacks a female sub. In true ARFCOM fashion she flattens his scrawny butt. School agrees NOT to suspend the kid if parents don't press charges against the sub. No charges filed.
True Story # 3. At the same school, I am threatened with bodily harm by a Junior Higher (serious reality disconnect there). When I kindly instruct the idjit that I would not recommend that course of action, he responds, "But you can't lay a hand on me or your fired." I look at him, give him my best evil grin and say, "I don't need the job that bad."
True Story # 4. Same school. Kids are selling candy for fund-raiser. One kid doesn't bring in either the candy or the money by the deadline. Class sponsor calls parent who says, "I ate it. Leave the kid alone!"
Ture Story # 5. Local high school two kids are smoking dope in the band room. When the band director caught them he did nothing. Now I will say, when that got out the teacher was fired and the students expelled.

Bottom line: Our schools have a lot of problems, but lack of discipline (in school and at home) has got to be near the top.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 12:35:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/14/2006 12:36:27 PM EDT by topgunpilot20]

Originally Posted By Wdsman:

Bottom line: Our schools have a lot of problems, but lack of discipline (in school and at home) has got to be near the top.

Exactly. My GF is an eighth grade science teacher at a minority school, and this week her principal told the teachers not to write any more referrals because too makes him look bad. That's right, the little bastards won't even get punished for that actions now. That includes assaulting a school security guard (happened this week).
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